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Face to Face Ministries Podcast

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by Cathy Little and Melinda Wilson

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189 episodes

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Hosts Cathy Little and Melinda Wilson, co-founders of Face to Face Network, talk about what it means to walk in true freedom, inner healing (heart and emotional healing), and wholeness, accessing all that Jesus represents. They also include interviews with key leaders who are passionate to help you find it. www.facetofacenetwork.org The views and opinions expressed on the Face to Face Podcast are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily reflect the official position or beliefs of Face to Face Network.

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Recent Episodes

May 26, 2026

E188 | Susan Carson | Safe Enough to Heal: Why the Church Gets Trauma Wrong and What to Do Instead

Host interviews spiritual director and author Susan Carson about how churches often mishandle trauma and offers a "safe space" approach for embodied healing.

May 5, 2026

E187 | Dr. Jason Swan Clark | Trauma Healing, Mental Health and Ignatian Spiritual Exercises

<div>In episode 187, we welcome Dr. Jason Swan Clark, a professor, spiritual director, former pastor, and theologian, who recounts his traumatic childhood, coming to faith at 17, decades of church planting and pastoral leadership, a nervous breakdown at 30, and ongoing work integrating mental health and faith.</div> <div>Jason describes how suffering shaped his leadership, distinguishes healing from transformation, and explains Ignatian spirituality and the Spiritual Exercises, including consolation/desolation and a practical discernment process.</div> <div>He closes with a personal story of meeting Jesus in Gethsemane through the Exercises during COVID and shares where to find his work online.</div> <div>00:00 Podcast Welcome</div> <div>00:29 Episode 187 Milestone</div> <div>01:14 Institute Updates</div> <div>02:40 Meet Jason Swan Clark</div> <div>04:25 Setting the Conversation</div> <div>06:17 Jason's Origin Story</div> <div>08:34 Breakdown and Calling</div> <div>09:45 Waverley Abbey Vision</div> <div>13:21 Trauma Survival and Escape</div> <div>18:20 Workaholism as Coping</div> <div>24:22 Trauma Shaping Leadership</div> <div>31:10 Healing vs Transformation</div> <div>34:46 Wanting More Than Healing</div> <div>36:30 Healing Through Participation</div> <div>40:04 Embracing the Cross</div> <div>42:25 Trauma and Purpose</div> <div>46:30 Ignatius and the Exercises</div> <div>51:34 Discernment Made Practical</div> <div>01:00:18 Freedom and Attachments</div> <div>01:05:32 Gethsemane Stay Awake</div> <div>01:07:24 Closing and Where to Find Jason</div> <div> </div> <div>https://www.spex.so/</div> <div>https://www.jasonswanclark.org/</div>

April 21, 2026

E186 | Paul Young | Embracing Uncertainty: Finding Truth in the Unknowing - Part 2

<p><strong>E186 | Paul Young | Embracing Uncertainty: Finding Truth in the Unknowing - Part 2</strong></p> <div class="py-2 px-3 gap-3 stack" data-testid= "ai-actions-response-content"> <div>Paul Young (Part 2) on Prayer as Relationship, 12-Step Community, Healing vs Curing, and Return to the Shack</div> <div>In episode 186 (Part 2) of the Face to Face Podcast, we continue our conversation with Paul Young, discussing prayer as ongoing conversation within relationship and how spiritual practices can help but often need community to endure.</div> <div>We talk about honesty without fixing, and how close relationships expose areas needing healing. The conversation explores reclaiming inner wisdom, resisting church-driven codependency, and transformation from the inside out.</div> <div>Paul shares updates on Return to the Shack: A Journey into Redemption (releasing October 6, with a special Shack hardback including three sequel chapters) and a large-scale Shack stage musical in Germany planned for spring 2029.</div> <div>He also addresses living with epilepsy, seeking healing rather than curing, and using "unrighteous wealth" (platform/notoriety) shrewdly for the kingdom.</div> <div class="stack gap-1"> </div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">01:22 Trauma Course Plug</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">01:52 What Prayer Looks Like</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">03:43 Spiritual Practices Reframed</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">05:17 Bradley and AA Community</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">10:09 Why Community Heals</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">14:07 CODA and Not Fixing</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">17:21 Codependency and Self Trust</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">20:20 Poem on Voice and Boundaries</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">21:35 Sequel Release Plans</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">22:28 Musical Adaptation Update</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">25:10 Casting Connection Offer</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">25:51 Creative Process Reflections</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">27:06 Health and Epilepsy Journey</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">30:57 Unrighteous Wealth Parable</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">33:42 Using Platform for Kingdom</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">40:07 Revival and Union Talk</span></div> <div class="stack gap-1"><span class= "text-default-fg-primary label-1-regular Text-module--dTnC1C">41:35 Podcast Farewell and Outro</span></div> </div> <div class= "sticky right-0 p-2 z-1 row justify-end transition-opacity AiActions-module--pTHKXZ"> <div class="IconButton-module--RuUKvt"> </div> </div>

189 total episodes available with 16 transcripts

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What is Face to Face Ministries Podcast?: Hosts Cathy Little and Melinda Wilson, co-founders of Face to Face Network, talk about what it means to walk in true freedom, inner healing (heart and emotional healing), and wholeness, accessing all that Jesus represents. They also include interviews with key leaders who are passionate to help you find it. www.facetofacenetwork.org

The views and opinions expressed on the Face to Face Podcast are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily reflect the official position or beliefs of Face to Face Network.
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