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About Fired By Robots
Two indie devs, no corporate playbook. Aivars Meijers and Pawel Karniej talk through building apps in public, scaling products, and staying useful while software keeps changing.
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- Aivars Meijers & Paweł Karniej
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- First episode
- 20 May 2026
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- 30 Sept 2026
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30 Sept 2026
Episode 19: Is Your App Ready for AI Agents? MCP and Sign in with ChatGPT
After about three months as "the Codex guy", I went back to Claude this week. I threw everything at Opus 5.5 – demo videos for my mobile app, UI fixes for my teleprompter app, a new version of my beat-making app – and didn't hit the five-hour limit once. Aivars had the same experience after months of rationing Fable, and we talk about why that changes how we work. Then the part that matters if you build apps: OpenAI's DevDay. Sign in with ChatGPT lets Plus and Pro users spend their plan inside partner tools like Notion, and Dots are always-on agents with their own cloud computer that connect to 4,000+ apps. If agents start choosing tools for people, will they pick your app? We talk about MCP, agent catalogs, and what I'm already seeing with VidNotes. Also in this episode: - Aivars had Claude Code cut a moto vlog from 360, DJI and iPhone footage while burning very few tokens - why AI demo videos are a commodity now - I turned my SaaS into a skills package that runs inside Claude, Codex and Hermes - too many token resets and the pressure to burn them - iPhone Duo support: size classes, iPad layouts, and a teleprompter on the rear camera - why we stopped chasing every new model - Aivars is back on Windows after a week on Linux Claude Opus 5.5: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5 (https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5) Claude Sonnet 5.5: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5 (https://www.anthropic.com/claude-sonnet-5-5) OpenAI DevDay 2026 recap: https://openai.com/index/devday-2026-recap/ (https://openai.com/index/devday-2026-recap/) VidNotes: https://vidnotes.app (https://vidnotes.app) Chapters: 00:00 Bangkok floods 02:51 Why I went back to Claude 06:34 Aivars on Opus 5.5 and the five-hour limits 09:22 Claude Code edits a moto vlog 11:06 Demo videos are a commodity now 14:01 My SaaS became a skills package 17:16 Staying model-agnostic 19:59 Too many token resets 21:43 iPhone Duo support in practice 24:12 A teleprompter for iPhone Duo 27:58 Why we stopped chasing new models 37:13 Back to Windows after a week on Linux 40:54 Codex computer use and dropping a VPS 43:56 DevDay: Sign in with ChatGPT 48:22 Make your app available to AI agents 50:29 VidNotes: MCP, web and credits 54:46 OpenAI Dots: always-on agents 56:41 One chatbot for everything? 58:52 My biggest enemy is focus 1:00:17 Wrap-up New episode every week – subscribe so you don't miss the next one.
23 Sept 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 18: GPT-6 Sol & Claude Opus 5.5: Will Cheaper AI Fix Our Limits?
One video edit used about 10% of Aivars's AI plan. With GPT-6 Sol and Claude Opus 5.5 newly released, we ask whether cheaper models will let us do more before we hit usage limits. We discuss the reported model improvements, our subscription limits, and the video editing work that uses our allowance. Neither of us had fully tested the new models when we recorded this episode, so this is a discussion of the releases and our existing workflows, not a head-to-head test. We also share how we use AI to monitor flight prices and manage Google Ads. Then we discuss Jev, a model for structured decisions, and why a structured answer can still be wrong. Finally, we cover Expo SDK 58 beta, the VidNotes move to Expo, and Aivars's work to adapt his apps for iPhone Duo. GPT-6 Sol: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-6-sol (https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-6-sol) Claude Opus 5.5: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5 (https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5) Jev: https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev (https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev) Expo SDK 58 beta: https://expo.dev/changelog/sdk-58-beta (https://expo.dev/changelog/sdk-58-beta) iPhone Duo developer resources: https://developer.apple.com/iphone-duo/ (https://developer.apple.com/iphone-duo/) What task uses the most of your AI allowance? Tell us in the comments. Chapters: 00:00 Opening 00:15 GPT-6 Sol and Claude Opus 5.5 02:31 Codex, Xcode, and model access 05:21 Model efficiency and automation costs 10:07 AI video editing and usage costs 13:48 Claude, Codex, and subscription limits 19:12 ChatGPT and Claude interface changes 25:24 Using AI to monitor flight prices 28:59 Launching Google Ads with AI 32:28 Jev and structured AI decisions 43:48 Expo SDK 58 and the VidNotes rewrite 49:07 Adapting apps for iPhone Duo 58:13 Your questions and future episodes Subscribe to Fired by Robots for more conversations about AI and app development.
16 Sept 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 17: Shopify Dropped React Native Because of AI. Should You?
Shopify is moving its mobile apps from React Native to Swift and Kotlin after AI changed the cost of native development. Does that mean indie app developers should follow? Aivars thinks beginners should start with native development. I still think React Native and Expo suit many cross-platform products. We compare native development, React Native, Flutter, and Dart Native. We also discuss performance, complexity, over-the-air updates, and iPhone Duo support. Shopify’s native development announcement: https://shopify.engineering/back-to-native (https://shopify.engineering/back-to-native) Shopify’s Shop app migration: https://shopify.engineering/shop-app-migration (https://shopify.engineering/shop-app-migration) Apple’s iPhone Duo developer resources: https://developer.apple.com/iphone-duo/ (https://developer.apple.com/iphone-duo/) Chapters: 00:00 Paweł’s new development contract 02:11 Apple announces iPhone Duo 08:09 Preparing VidNotes for iPhone Duo 19:32 Android foldables versus iPhone Duo 23:08 Apple’s new Siri and AI 29:02 Apple’s localization problem 33:24 Does Apple still innovate? 39:13 macOS 27 Golden Gate 43:02 Shopify drops React Native 50:17 Native versus cross-platform for beginners 01:06:10 Flutter, Dart Native, and HabitKit 01:19:04 Listener feedback and final thoughts Subscribe for weekly discussions about building, shipping, and growing mobile applications.
11 Sept 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 16: Is Astra The Best Model Right Now?
Is GPT-6 Astra truly the best AI model for indie app builders? We do not agree. Paweł sees a major improvement in reasoning, automation, coding, and subscription value. Aivars sees a better model, but not a revolution. Claude still produced better iOS designs during his direct comparison. We discuss real work from the past week: • Astra fixed an iOS keyboard bug that other models could not solve. • Astra created an interactive 3D avatar using Blender. • Claude defeated Astra during an app design comparison. • Our apps reached approximately $4,600 and $2,600 in MRR. • Paweł spent about $200 sending more than 40 Upwork proposals. • One unexpected Upwork message produced a $500 weekend project. • Hermes agents could become a reusable team of digital workers. Fired by Robots follows two indie developers building products without a corporate playbook. Website: https://firedbyrobots.com (https://firedbyrobots.com) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033k2vKCq4wYBIdzX2whcZ (https://open.spotify.com/show/033k2vKCq4wYBIdzX2whcZ) Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fired-by-robots/id1896779874 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fired-by-robots/id1896779874) CHAPTERS 00:00 Introducing GPT-6 Astra 02:52 Is Astra really better? 07:03 Astra fixes a week-long iOS bug 08:10 Claude still wins at app design 09:13 Building a 3D avatar with Astra 13:05 Astra and Claude subscription value 20:04 Where Astra still needs supervision 23:06 Weekly shipping commitments 28:00 August app revenue and hard paywalls 30:46 Upwork is now pay-to-compete 33:11 A $500 weekend automation project 41:21 Freelancing, pressure, and focus 46:40 Switching from Windows to Omarchy 49:37 Building a team of Hermes agents 59:39 Apple event and iOS 27 #IndieDev #AICoding #GPT6Astra
3 Sept 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 15: Are We Just Big Children ?
The conversation covers a range of topics including personal commitments, software development, AI models, and the future of software and technology. It delves into the challenges and opportunities in the software development industry, the impact of AI models on coding and design, and the evolving landscape of software and technology. The conversation covers a range of topics including UI development, streaming, Linux usage, cloud-based development, Grogbot, marketing strategies, Apple's surprise event, and the behavior of software developers. The discussion also delves into the challenges of AI projects and the dynamics of the developer community. Takeaways Personal commitments and focus are essential for project completion. AI models like Fable and Codex are changing the landscape of coding and design. The future of software development may involve a shift towards AI-powered tools and a reimagining of the software industry. UI development and streaming Linux usage and cloud-based development Grogbot and marketing strategies Apple's surprise event and developer community dynamics Chapters 00:00 Personal Commitments and Project Completion 03:21 The Impact of AI Models on Coding and Design 10:17 The Future of Software Development and Technology 21:00 Challenges and Opportunities in the Software Development Industry 27:55 The Role of AI Models in Software Development 37:02 UI Development and Streaming 38:00 Linux Usage and Cloud-Based Development 39:29 Grogbot and Marketing Strategies 01:00:07 Apple's Surprise Event and Developer Community Dynamics
26 Aug 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 14: Testing Omarchy & GrokBot
The conversation delves into the exploration of Omachi and Linux, discussing the features, integration, and considerations for hardware and operating systems. It also covers the use of Grogbot and AI agents for various tasks and applications. The conversation covers a range of topics including email marketing, AI model comparison, Grogbot use case, AI subscriptions, gaming and AI automation, reflections on the Apple ecosystem and development, focus on specific app development and marketing, and accountability and future plans. Takeaways Exploring the features and integration of Omachi on Linux. Considerations for hardware and operating systems when evaluating new machines. The use of Grogbot and AI agents for various tasks and applications. AI model comparison is essential for understanding the quality of AI-generated content. Grogbot's use case and functionality provide valuable insights into AI automation and content analysis. Chapters 00:00 Exploring Omachi and Linux 02:47 Omachi Features and Integration 07:00 Considerations for Hardware and OS 26:13 Grogbot and AI Agents 43:55 Email Marketing and AI Writing 45:12 Comparison of AI Models 46:33 Grogbot Use Case and Functionality 47:18 Discussion on AI Subscriptions and Usage 01:01:16 Gaming and AI Automation 01:11:16 Reflections on Apple Ecosystem and Development 01:16:34 Focus on Specific App Development and Marketing 01:20:09 Accountability and Future Plans
22 Aug 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 13: Apps, AI, and the Search for Leverage
The conversation covers topics related to mobile apps, AI, freelancing, and business growth. It delves into the sale of apps, revenue generation, YouTube channels, and the transition from contracting to product-based business. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including business focus, B2B opportunities, mobile apps, automations, consulting, and the use of tools like Buzz and Grogbot. The discussion also delves into the changing landscape of hackathons, the emergence of outbeat.lol, and the challenges of gaining visibility for products. Takeaways Mobile Apps AI Freelancing Business Growth B2B opportunities Changing landscape of hackathons Challenges of gaining visibility for products Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Weekly Updates 02:57 Selling Apps and Revenue Generation 08:11 YouTube Channels and Content Creation 13:01 App Development and Revenue Multiples 16:49 Transition to Product-Based Business 24:47 Contracting and Business Growth 52:54 Business Focus and B2B Opportunities 54:17 The Use of Tools and Platforms 01:37:04 The Emergence of outbeat.lol
14 Aug 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 12: Escaping Apple Hell and Going All-In
The conversation covers the challenges of app review times, the impact of Apple's ecosystem, and the strategy for content creation and streaming. It also delves into the value of different social media platforms and the importance of discoverability. Paweł discusses his experience with automated content creation for VNOTes using the Fastlane platform, the success of the video meme format on social media, and the impact on VidNotes' growth. He also shares his decision to focus on one app and streamline his app portfolio, as well as his transition to Linux and open-source development. Takeaways App review times are inconsistent and can lead to significant delays in app updates and releases. The value of different social media platforms varies, with live streaming and short-form video content being highlighted as effective strategies for content creation. Automated content creation using the Fastlane platform has been successful for VidNotes, especially with the video meme format. Focusing on one app and streamlining the app portfolio has led to better results and improved focus for Paweł. Chapters 00:00 Content Creation and Streaming Strategy 32:06 Automated Content Creation for VNOTes with Fastlane 38:10 Focusing on One App and Streamlining the App Portfolio 39:49 Participation in Shipaton and Transition to Linux and Open-Source Development
6 Aug 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 11: The Indie Shift
The conversation covers topics related to travel, home, Shipathon participation, AI design tools, and the challenges of the App Store review process. It also delves into the changing landscape of app development and the impact of AI on design and development processes. The conversation covers various topics including the value of the App Store, open source projects, the use of speech-to-text applications, the development of B2B products, and the trend of vibecoding websites. The hosts also discuss the importance of focus and the changing landscape of indie development. Takeaways Home and Travel Shipathon Participation AI Design Tools Challenges of App Store Review Process Changing Landscape of App Development App Store value is decreasing due to the flood of applications and the rise of alternative distribution channels. Open source projects like Parrot and AraPirorot provide valuable features for dictation and language support. Speech-to-text applications offer benefits such as faster input and improved context in prompts. The development of B2B products requires a focus on quality and value to attract and retain customers. Vibecoding websites can generate revenue through ad spots, demonstrating a new trend in indie development. Chapters 00:00 Home and Travel 05:08 Shipathon Participation 16:43 AI Design Tools 29:31 Challenges of App Store Review Process 36:49 Changing Landscape of App Development 42:54 The Changing Value of the App Store 46:42 Open Source Projects and Speech-to-Text Applications 51:32 Exploring B2B Product Development 01:20:52 Trend of Vibecoding Websites
31 Jul 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 10: AI Design Is Finally Good
Paweł and Aivars discuss their holiday plans and the challenges of recording during the holiday season. They encounter technical issues and connection problems, leading to a discussion about product development, feedback threads, open source tools, and the future of software for indie app developers. The conversation also covers AI tools, the Revenue Cat update, selling applications, and Trust MRR. The conversation delves into the evolving mindset of embracing change and creativity, the challenges of managing multiple projects, the importance of deepening focus on existing projects, and the need to protect intellectual property. It also explores cost optimization and scalability, the transition to a manager of agents, automating workflows with cloud co-work, transitioning to cloud-based development, and leveraging cloud design for app development. Takeaways Holiday season challenges for podcast recording The future of software and indie app development Selling applications and Trust MRR Embracing change and creativity leads to clarity and new opportunities. Deepening focus on existing projects and protecting intellectual property is essential for long-term success. Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Holiday Update 03:06 Technical Issues and Connection Problems 04:24 Product Development and Feedback Thread 06:01 Open Source Tools and Indie App Development 10:07 The Future of Software and Indie Hackers 13:25 AI Tools and Revenue Cat Update 30:37 Selling Applications and Trust MRR 46:43 Embracing Change and Creativity 47:42 Managing Multiple Projects 49:00 Deepening Focus on Existing Projects 50:27 Protecting Intellectual Property 51:20 Cost Optimization and Scalability 01:02:30 Transition to Manager of Agents 01:09:00 Automating Workflows with Cloud Co-Work 01:17:28 Transitioning to Cloud-Based Development 01:23:47 Leveraging Cloud Design for App Development
23 Jul 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 9: Are Simple Apps Dead?
The podcast hosts discuss their recent app development activities, including the implementation of new features and the challenges of building and monetizing Android applications. They also share insights on the 30 Apps Challenge, feedback collection, and the development of a SAS product for feedback collection. Additionally, they explore the idea of participating in a Shipathon to build new applications. The conversation covers topics such as the App Growth Annual Conference, transition in mobile product building, the shift towards courageous and creative ideas, the impact of AI on development, AI's influence on application development, AI's role in writing code, the Subscription Tracker Challenge, and closing thoughts on individual developer projects. The discussion emphasizes the importance of focusing on bigger, more robust, and complex projects as individual developers, and the potential impact of AI on various aspects of development. Takeaways App development challenges and feature implementation Feedback collection and SAS product development Participation in Shipathon for new app development Transitioning towards more courageous and creative ideas in mobile product building The importance of focusing on bigger, more robust, and complex projects as individual developers Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Weekly Updates 01:01 App Development and Feature Implementation 04:07 Inspiration from Video Content and Building New Features 07:27 Building Android Applications and Monetization 12:45 30 Apps Challenge and Feedback Collection 25:09 Building a SAS Product for Feedback Collection 37:01 Feedback Collection and Shipathon Participation 43:38 App Growth Annual Conference 46:13 Transition in Mobile Product Building 49:35 Shift Towards Courageous and Creative Ideas 52:26 Impact of AI on Development 01:05:59 AI's Influence on Application Development 01:11:20 AI's Role in Writing Code 01:19:48 Subscription Tracker Challenge 01:24:00 Closing Thoughts
17 Jul 2026
Fired by Robots Podcast - Episode 8: Is AI Coding Actually Better Than Coding by Hand?
The conversation covers the challenges of coding by hand versus AI-assisted coding, the complexities of the recruitment process, the transition to product-focused work, and the use of Fable and Codex in development. The conversation delves into the challenges of content creation, the ongoing developments in AI hardware and software, and the future impact of AI on everyday life. It explores the struggle with content creation, the lawsuit between Apple and OpenAI, and the potential for AI-native operating systems. The discussion also highlights the increasing use of AI by non-technical individuals and the evolving capabilities of AI models and code. Takeaways Coding by hand vs. AI-assisted coding Recruitment process challenges Transition to product-focused work Use of Fable and Codex in development Content creation challenges AI hardware and software development The future of AI and its impact on everyday life Chapters 00:00 Coding by Hand vs. AI-Assisted Coding 03:09 Challenges in the Recruitment Process 09:00 Transition to Product-Focused Work 31:12 Use of Fable and Codex in Development 40:44 Content Creation Challenges 58:22 AI Hardware and Software Development 01:10:04 The Future of AI and Its Impact on Everyday Life
3 Jul 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 7: Is Mobile Apps Buisness Model For You?
The conversation covers topics related to climate and environment, the popularity of AC in Europe, challenges and successes in app development, and considerations for B2B and B2C business models. The discussion delves into climate differences between countries, the debate on the popularity of AC in Europe, app revenue and marketing strategies, and the exploration of service-based business models. The conversation covers various topics related to app development, app revenue, AI models, and the implications of using AI-generated applications. It also delves into the considerations for selling and buying indie applications, the costs and efficiency of AI models, and the impact of AI model usage on coding and development. Additionally, the conversation highlights the increasing use of AI models and tools, as well as the rising costs associated with their usage. Takeaways Climate differences between countries Discussion on the popularity of AC in Europe Challenges and successes in app development Considerations for B2B and B2C business models AI-generated applications are becoming increasingly common The use of AI models and tools is becoming more expensive Chapters 00:00 Climate and Environment 12:54 App Development Challenges 30:56 B2B vs B2C Business Models 43:43 Freelancing and Human Management 49:18 Selling Indie Applications 55:08 Selling and Buying Applications 01:05:17 AI Models and Open Source 01:11:14 AI Model Costs and Usage 01:16:19 AI Model Efficiency and Usage 01:23:35 Coding with AI and AI Model Costs
25 Jun 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 6: Content & Challenges
The conversation covers various aspects of app development, marketing, and revenue generation. It delves into data mining, app revenue, marketing strategies, app subscriptions, app development, ASO, influencer marketing, app niche targeting, content marketing, YouTube content strategy, and app promotion insights. The conversation covers a wide range of topics related to content creation, including content strategy, algorithm changes, audience targeting, language localization, and mobile app development. The discussion delves into the impact of algorithm changes on video recommendations, the challenges of single developer content creation, and the localization of content for different markets and audiences. Additionally, the conversation explores the audience demographics and language preferences, as well as the strategies for building public content and business through content marketing and coaching. Takeaways Data mining and analysis are crucial for app development and revenue generation. App store optimization (ASO) and influencer marketing play significant roles in app promotion and revenue generation. Algorithm changes impact video recommendations Localization of content is essential for audience targeting and engagement Chapters 00:00 Data Mining and Analysis 05:57 App Marketing Strategies 11:02 Influencer Marketing for Apps 17:14 App Promotion and Marketing Insights 23:09 Content Localization and Audience Targeting 29:21 Content Creation and Regional Audience 36:43 Content Creation and Audience Demographics 43:20 Content Creation and Population Demographics
17 Jun 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 5: Is Self-hosted AI the future?
The podcast episode covers a range of topics including app development, revenue growth, challenges in subscription app development, the impact of Cloud Fable 5 on development work, comparison of AI models, the impact of AI model subscriptions on business and expenses, exploring local AI models, and the shift towards local AI models and corporate AI expenses. The conversation delves into the impact of AI euphoria on the job market, SpaceX's investments in AI, recent acquisitions and partnerships, and the role of AI in user acquisition and recommendations. Takeaways AI Model Subscriptions Local AI Models Corporate AI Expenses AI Euphoria and Job Market SpaceX and AI Investments Acquisitions and Partnerships AI Recommendations and User Acquisition Chapters 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Weekly Updates 07:10 Challenges and Progress in Subscription App Development 13:12 Comparison of Fable 5 and Other AI Models 19:30 Impact of AI Model Subscriptions on Business and Expenses 26:48 Exploring Local AI Models and Their Potential Impact 36:08 Shift Towards Local AI Models and Corporate AI Expenses 48:32 SpaceX and AI Investments 58:27 AI Recommendations and User Acquisition
10 Jun 2026
Fired By Robots Podcast - Episode 4: Apple WWDC26 Recap
The conversation covers a range of topics including app development, revenue, the WWDC keynotes, the building of 30 apps challenge, bundle and suite offer subscription packets, and the impact of Siri AI and EU regulations. The conversation covers topics such as the regulation of AI and robotics, Apple's Siri and AI integration, and highlights from Apple's WWDC event. The discussion delves into the impact of regulations on AI, the trustworthiness of Apple's approach to AI, and the potential of new AI features in Apple's ecosystem. Takeaways App development and revenue are stable, with a focus on building 30 apps challenge and the impact of Siri AI and EU regulations. Regulation is crucial for AI and robotics Apple's Siri and AI integration is a key focus Apple's WWDC event highlights new AI features Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Apple Developer Conference 08:07 Building 30 Apps Challenge 17:41 WWDC Keynotes and Updates 33:58 Bundle and Suite Offer Subscription Packets 53:03 Siri AI and EU Regulations 01:02:47 Regulation of AI and Robotics 01:16:08 Apple's Siri and AI Integration 01:23:10 Apple's WWDC Highlights
3 Jun 2026
Episode 3 - App Store Review Process Sucks
Paweł and Aivars discuss their experiences as indie app developers, including revenue growth, app monetization, app store rejections, and the upcoming WWDC event. They share insights on MRR growth, app monetization strategies, app store review processes, and their expectations for WWDC. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the potential release of a foldable iPhone, the need for AI improvements in Apple products, the impact of AI on the job market, and the use of social media for information consumption and research. Takeaways MRR growth is a significant milestone for indie app developers App monetization strategies can include ads, in-app purchases, and subscriptions App store review processes can be challenging and may involve delays and rejections Expectations for WWDC include improvements and updates for iOS and potential new hardware releases Foldable iPhone potential release Need for AI improvements in Apple products Chapters 00:00 Indie App Development and MRR Growth 09:44 Implementing Ads and Monetization Experiments 19:23 App Store Review Processes and Automation Tools 44:41 Expectations for WWDC and New Releases 49:47 Potential Release of a Foldable iPhone 55:29 AI Improvements in Apple Products 01:26:00 Impact of AI on the Job Market 01:31:31 Use of Social Media for Information Consumption and Research
28 May 2026
Episode 2 - Limits of Tools & Creativity
The conversation covers the importance of setting limits for creativity, the impact of raising prices for products, the challenge of focusing on one project versus multiple projects, the significance of ASO on app revenue, and the value of personal effort in marketing applications. The conversation covers the challenges of using AI tools for automated image posts and social media marketing, experiences with OpenCloud and Hermes Agent, the illusion of productivity, transitioning from OpenCloud to Hermes Agent, and the impact of AI on jobs and tech firings. The decline in students applying to tech universities may be influenced by the belief that AI will make programming jobs obsolete. AI tools are not always cost-effective and may not always replace human developers. Takeaways Importance of setting limits for creativity The value of raising prices for products The challenge of focusing on one project versus multiple projects The impact of ASO on app revenue The significance of personal effort in marketing applications AI tools are not always cost-effective and may not always replace human developers The decline in students applying to tech universities may be influenced by the belief that AI will make programming jobs obsolete
20 May 2026
Episode 1 - Unemployed as Long as Possible
Two developers discuss their experiences with unemployment, indie app development, and the impact of AI on app development. They also explore the revenue comparison between iOS and Android platforms and discuss the challenges of cross-platform development. The conversation covers the journey of learning and building, the challenge of app distribution, insecurities and exploitation, vanity metrics and micromanagement, content marketing and AI, ASO strategy and app distribution, content creation and distribution strategies, strategies for app distribution, influencer partnerships and distribution, audience-focused app ideas, and a conclusion and farewell. Takeaways Unemployment challenges and strategies Impact of AI on app development Revenue comparison between iOS and Android platforms Challenges of cross-platform development The challenge of app distribution in a crowded market The importance of content marketing and audience-focused app ideas Chapters 00:00 Podcast Inception 08:03 Tech Industry Layoffs 19:54 AI in App Development 30:09 Platform Revenue Comparison 36:26 Cross-Platform Development 44:09 The Journey of Learning and Building 51:15 Insecurities and Exploitation 57:24 Content Marketing and AI 01:10:54 ASO Strategy and App Distribution 01:19:00 Content Creation and Distribution 01:29:52 Audience-Focused App Ideas
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