Fresh Out and Figuring it Out

About Fresh Out and Figuring it Out

Still figuring out life? Good — you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. I’m Mary Choi Kelly, PhD — mom, leadership coach, and C suite veteran with 30+ years of helping leaders thrive. On this podcast, Fresh Out & Figuring It Out, we give young adults the mic to share their stories so everyone listening can understand who they truly are and what’s on their minds. We’re also showing the real side of young men — one that defies stereotypes — so that we can rewrite the story together and help every young adult (both men and women) grow into confident, compassionate leaders who know their worth

Publisher

marychoikellyphd

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

1 Sept 2025

Latest episode

9 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

17 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   9 Sept 2026

   Management Consulting Unpacked: What It’s Really Like—and How to Know if It’s Right For You

   Episode 15: Your Early Career Is a Testing Ground: Giancarlo Marconi on Finding Your Fit Episode Summary What does a management consultant actually do—and how do you figure out if consulting is right for you? In this episode, Giancarlo Marconi pulls back the curtain on his journey from college internships in advertising and corporate finance to management consulting at Bain. Rather than simply talking about what consulting sounds like,Giancarlo explains what the work is actually like: how consultants help companies solve complex problems, how they use frameworks and data to find answers, why asking the right questions matters, and how important storytellingis when you're trying to turn complicated information into a clear recommendation. He also shares what it's like to be a consultant early in yourcareer—from the learning curve and fast pace to working across different industries and problems. But perhaps the most valuable part of his story is how he found his way there. Giancarlo didn't start with a perfectly mapped-out career plan. He explored different environments, learned from internships, talked to mentors, and paid attention to what energized him. His path is a great reminder that figuring out your career isn't about making one perfect decision at 18 or 22. It's about getting enough real-world experience to discover what fits. What You'll Hear What management consultants actually do and why companies hire them How consultants approach complex business problems What the first years in consulting are really like The reality behind the stereotypes of consulting How consulting can expose you to different industries, companies, and business problems How Giancarlo's internships helped him discover what he did—and didn't—want How a mentor helped introduce him to management consulting What it takes to break into consulting Why asking the right question is one of the most important skills in consulting How consultants turn data and complexity into a compelling story Why having a point of view matters How curiosity, initiative, and relationships can shape your career Key Takeaways Your early career is a testing ground. Internships and first jobs help you discover what fits—and what doesn't. Consulting is about solving problems. Consultants bring expertise, frameworks, data, and experience to help companies tackle complex challenges. Ask better questions. One of the most valuable consulting skills is cutting through complexity to identify the question that really matters. Storytelling is a career superpower. Having the right answer isn't enough if you can't communicate it clearly and make it land. Build relationships before you need them. Approach networking with curiosity and a desire to learn, not simply with a request for a job. Take initiative. Raise your hand, volunteer, and look for ways to make your manager's life easier. There is no perfect career. Every experience gives you information about what energizes you, what you're good at, and what you want next. You only need to figure out the next step. Your career path can evolve as you gain experience and learn more about yourself. Who It's For This episode is especially valuable for: Anyone curious about what it's like to work at a major consulting firm Students preparing for consulting recruiting and interviews Young adults looking for practical advice on finding mentors, building relationships, and exploring career options I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

2. 

   29 Jul 2026

   The Career You Didn't See Coming: Why mentors, pivots, and curiosity matter more than having a perfect plan

   Episode 14: Thinking About Law School? David KurtzShares What Every Future Lawyer Should Know Episode Summary David Kurtz didn't grow up knowing he wanted to be a lawyer. His journey began at a boat rental, where he earned his captain's license, before studying economics at UCLA and working in college athletics. It was there that an unexpected mentor sparked his interest in law and ultimately sethim on a path to becoming an attorney. In this episode, David shares the honest reality of building a legal career—from surviving law school and passing the bar to handling high-pressure cases and arguing before judges. Along the way, he learned that asking thoughtful questions isn’t a weakness—it’s a critical skill that helps youngprofessionals grow and succeed. As an attorney at Everett Dorey LLP in Irvine, California, he offers an inside look at the legal profession while reminding us that the best careers are rarely built in a straight line. More importantly, this conversation explores a question nearly every young adult asks: How do you figure out your career when you don't have everything planned? Whether you're considering law school, choosing a college major, navigating your first job, or simply trying to discover what path is right for you, this episode is filled with practical advice on mentorship, networking, resilience, and embracing the pivots that often lead to the greatest opportunities. Because careers aren't built by having all the answers—they're built through curiosity, meaningful relationships, continuous learning, and the courage to take the next step. What You'll Hear Why networking is really about genuine relationships—not collecting LinkedIn connections How David accidentally discovered his career in law The surprising truth about what lawyers actually do every day What law school is really like (hint: it's not what TV shows portray) The skills that matter most if you're considering becoming an attorney Why asking questions can accelerate your career The importance of mentors and learning from people around you How to know when it's time to pivot Why life experience matters just as much as education Practical advice for anyone thinking about graduate school How exercise, boundaries, and routines help manage high-pressure careers Key Takeaways You don't need your entire career mapped out at 18 Your network isn't how many people you know—it's how many genuine relationships you build Trying something and discovering you don't like it is valuable information Great mentors can change the trajectory of your career Confidence doesn't mean having every answer—it means asking the right questions Every career has a reality behind the title Learn what the day-to-day work actually looks like before committing Small decisions often create the biggest opportunities Who This Episode Is For This episode is for you if you're: Wondering whether law school is the right path Trying to figure out what career fits your strengths Feeling pressure to have your future completely planned Looking for practical career advice—not just motivation Interested in networking, mentorship, and professional growth Navigating your first job or early career I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

3. 

   25 Jun 2026

   How to think like a strategist and build the career you want

   Episode 13: Everyone Says "Be More Strategic." Andrew Lanzino Finally Explains How What if the biggest advantage in your career isn't yourdegree, your resume, or even your job title? In this episode, Mary sits down with strategist, author,Air Force veteran, and UNLV professor Andrew Lanzino to unpack what actually separates people who grow their careers from those who stay stuck. From leaving college to join the Air Force after 9/11,rebuilding his career, and eventually building a portfolio of experiences in strategy, HR, and major initiatives like the Super Bowl and Formula 1 for one of the world's largest hospitality companies, Andrew shares the lessons that shaped his journey. Together, Mary and Andrew break down what "beingstrategic" really means, why curiosity is your greatest career advantage, how to create opportunities instead of waiting for promotions, and why your career should be built around your own personal strategy. If you're figuring out your next move, wondering how to stand out, or trying to build a meaningful career without losing yourself in the process, this conversation is for you. What You'll Hear Why Andrew left college to join the Air Force—and how an unexpected injury changed everything The power of curiosity and asking better questions Why the best career opportunities often come from raising your hand How to think strategically (even if you don't have "strategy" in your title) Building transferable skills instead of chasing titles Creating your own personal career strategy How mentors and advocates quietly shape your success Why relationships matter more than networking The biggest misconception about young professionals today Key Takeaways Your career belongs to you—not your employer. Curiosity creates opportunities that talent alone can't. Don't wait to be discovered. Tell your story and advocate for yourself. Strategy isn't complicated—it's making intentional choices. Learn how every part of the business connects. That's how leaders think. Build relationships before you need them. The best mentors tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear. Success isn't about climbing the ladder—it's about building a unique portfolio of experiences. Keep learning. The most successful people never stop being students. Who It's For College students preparing to enter the workforce Young professionals trying to figure out their next career move Anyone feeling stuck or questioning whether they're on the "right" path Future leaders who want to think more strategically Managers looking to better develop early-career talent Parents, mentors, and coaches supporting the next generation I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

4. 

   27 May 2026

   Engineering Your Future: Leadership, Resilience & Finding Your Path

   Episode 12: Insights From Moving Around the Country, Staying Curious, and Ultra Marathon Running with Darrell Kennedy In this episode of Fresh Out & Figuring It Out, Mary sits downwith environmental engineer and ultra-runner, Darrell Kennedy, to unpack the reality of working as an environmental engineering consultant. From cleaning uphistoric contamination sites to revitalizing waterways and wetlands, Darrell explains how he provides technical solutions to complex problems that impact communities and the environment. Darrell opens up about moving around the country with no real plan, learning from failure, and why resilience and curiosity matter more than having a perfect plan.  He also gives an inside look into what environmental engineering consultants actually do day-to-day—from investigation and design work, to project management and designwork to construction oversight, problem-solving, and leading teams. Beyond the technical side, this episode explores leadership, communication, networking, discipline, and personal growth. From navigating the transition into leadership to running ultra marathons to build mental fortitude, this episode is packed with honest advice for young adults trying to figure out whothey are and where they’re headed.  It’s a conversation about growth, curiosity, confidence, and why you don’t need tohave everything mapped out to build an incredible future. What You’ll Hear Why failure early in life can actually become your biggest advantage The truth about networking (hint: it’s just human connection) What moving around the country taught him about identity and growth The mindset shift that helped him go from struggling to run one mile to completing ultra marathons Leadership lessons on self-awareness, communication, and emotional intelligence Why young adults should stop chasing titles and start focusing on skills The importance of mentorship, guidance, and building genuine community Key Takeaways Failure is not the opposite of success—it’s part of it: Darrell’s story proves that struggling, pivoting, and starting over areoften the moments that shape who we become. Your career path doesn’t need to be linear: You don’t need a perfect five-year plan. Curiosity, adaptability, and willingness to learn matter more. Discipline builds confidence: Whether it’s running ultras, learning leadership, or growing professionally, confidence comes from keeping promises to yourself. Relationships matter more than resumes: Networking isn’t about collecting connections—it’s about meaningful conversations and authentic relationships. Self-awareness is a superpower: The best leaders know their strengths, own their weaknesses, and stay open to growth. Who It’s For College students and recent grads feeling uncertain about their future Young professionals navigating career pressure and identity Anyone struggling with comparison, self-doubt, or fear of failure Young men looking for a healthier definition of masculinity and success Future leaders wanting practical advice on growth, communication, and resilience People trying to build confidence, discipline, and purpose in their 20s and early 30s I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

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   23 Apr 2026

   The Long Game: Identity, Insecurity & Redefining Success

   Episode 10: Stop Trying to Impress Everyone - Start Figuring Yourself Out In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, I sit down with my cousin Benjie—former pastor turned fishing content creator—to unpack identity, pressure, faith, failure, and what it really means to find yourself. Growing up in a Korean-American, faith-centered household, Benjie’s path seemed clearly defined. Religion, family, and community shaped his identity early on, ultimately leading him to follow in his father’s footsteps and become a pastor. But beneath doing what was expected, he shares the internal reality many young adults face—navigating insecurity, comparison, and the pressure to prove your worth. As the conversation unfolds, Benjie opens up about pivotal moments that challenged everything he thought he knew—from conflict within the church to personal struggles that forced him to rethink his identity and direction. Whatmakes this episode powerful is the honesty around those experiences—not as failures, but as necessary turning points. The conversation also highlights a non-traditional path—choosing family over career momentum, becoming a stay-at-home dad, and eventually rediscovering a passion for fishing that evolved into a growing content platform. But moreimportantly, it reflects a deeper transformation: moving from trying to prove himself to genuinely accepting who he is. At its core, this episode is about redefining success. It challenges the idea that fulfillment comes from achievements alone and instead emphasizes self-awareness, resilience, and playing the long game. Timestamps (00:00) Intro + Would You Rather (with a twist 😂) (02:00) Growing up Korean-American + family dynamics (06:00) Faith, identity, and becoming a pastor (17:00) Church trauma + pivotal moment with his father (24:00) Insecurity in your 20s (and why it’s normal) (32:00) Leaving ministry + starting over at 36 (34:00) Unexpected success at Sherwin-Williams (41:00) Walking away from a promotion to prioritize family (43:00) Becoming a stay-at-home dad + rediscovering fishing (49:00) Confidence, identity, and self-acceptance (58:00) Real talk: success, happiness, and the long game (1:04:00) What’s next + advice for young adults What You'll Hear The hidden cost of chasing validation and external success A raw look at faith, burnout, and deconstructing identity Why your 20s feel like a constant “prove yourself” phase How failure, pain, and discomfort can become your biggest teachers The mindset shift that changed everything: from proving → to being Why doing what you love isn’t a straight path—and that’s okay Key Takeaways You are not your accomplishments. Success built on insecurity will never feel like enough. Your 20s are messy by design. You’re not behind—you’re in it. Confidence on the outside ≠ confidence on the inside. Both matter, but they’re built differently. Stop chasing outcomes—focus on who you’re becoming. The results follow. Pain is a teacher (if you let it be). Growth comes from how you respond, not what happens. There is no perfect job. You build meaning—you don’t find it. It’s a long game. You don’t need it all figured out right now. Who This Episode is For Young adults feeling lost, behind, or unsure of their path Anyone questioning their career, identity, or definition of success High achievers who look “fine” on the outside but feel uncertain inside People navigating pressure from family, culture, or expectations I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

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   26 Mar 2026

   The Social Media Lie: Success, Identity & Starting Over

   Episode 10: I Left Everyone to ‘Succeed’—Here’s What It Cost Me In this episode, Sean Stewart shares the story so many young adults are living—but few are saying out loud. From a creative, connected high school life to total isolation in college, Sean fell into the trap of hustle culture, comparison, and social media pressure during COVID. What started as ambition turned into anxiety, disconnection, and a deep belief that he was “behind.” But this isn’t a story about failure—it’s about awareness, rebuilding, and redefining success on your own terms. If you’ve ever felt like you’re running out of time, not doing enough, or questioning your path… this episode will hit. Timestamps(00:00:00) Introduction to Sean Stewart (00:02:54) The Skateboarding Culture (00:10:15) High School Experiences and Perfect Attendance (00:16:27) Transitioning to College During COVID (00:23:13) The Impact of Social Media on Mental Health (00:25:47) The Disconnect Between Social Media and Reality (00:29:02) The Curse of Ambition and Its Consequences (00:34:20) Reconnecting with Friends and Finding Balance (00:42:06) The Turning Point: Seeking Help and Therapy (00:50:47) Building Meaningful Relationships and Moving Forward (00:52:11) Reconnecting with Hobbies and Creativity (00:53:29) Entrepreneurial Journey in Real Estate Marketing (00:54:13) Writing 'Buyers on Demand' for Realtors (00:55:16) Navigating a Healthy Relationship with Social Media (00:57:33) Lessons Learned and Advice for Young Adults (00:59:08) Challenging Societal Norms for Young Men (01:00:05) Evolving Definitions of Success (01:03:47) The Importance of Asking 'Why?' (01:16:42) Introduction to Leadership and Action (01:16:43) Building a Community of Leaders What You'll Hear How social media can quietly reshape your identity and self-worth The hidden downside of hustle culture and “success content” Why cutting people off doesn’t equal growth What isolation actually does to your mental health The turning point: therapy, reconnection, and asking why How to rebuild your life when you feel completely off track A healthier way to think about ambition, masculinity, and success Key Takeaways Social media is not reality - What you’re seeing is the highlight reel of the exception—not the rule. You are not behind - There is no universal timeline. The pressure is manufactured. Ambition without balance can become self-destruction - Drive is powerful—but not when it costs your relationships and mental health. Isolation is not the price of success - Connection is actually one of the strongest predictors of long-term happiness. Ask “why” more often - If a belief doesn’t hold up under questioning, it probably isn’t yours. Success is personal—and it evolves - Your definition today won’t be your definition tomorrow. That’s normal. Who This Episode Is For Young adults feeling lost, behind, or overwhelmed Anyone comparing their life to what they see online Ambitious individuals caught in hustle culture College students navigating identity and pressure Young men questioning expectations around success or masculinity Parents or mentors wanting to better understand Gen Z experiences I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/)

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   25 Feb 2026

   Memoir-Worthy vs. Scroll-Worthy: Building a Life You'd Actually Want to Live

   Episode 9: Evan Gold: Winning, Pressure, and Becoming Your Own Person In this episode, I sit down with Evan Gold—Cal Berkeley men’s varsity rower and junior—to unpackwhat it’s like growing up inside a high-achievement bubble, learning to define success for yourself, and building a “real” network in a world that tells you to rack up LinkedIn connections. Evan shares how pressure in Palo Alto shaped his mindset, why choosing Cal was a step toward becoming his own person, and how mentorship + community (especially through sports) can be a protective force for young adults. The episode also tackles screen-time culture, why many young people don’t actually like being on their phones, and what supporting young men can look like when we stop reducing them to metrics. Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:08) Would You Rather (00:04:00) Evan Gold (00:04:38) The "Palo Alto Pressure" – Parental pressure, bubble cultures, and youth mental health (00:12:15) The Mentorship Gap for Young Men (00:15:15) Choosing Cal over Stanford (00:23:50) Choosing a college major (00:26:13) Learning How to Network – Evan shares his big take aways from a “failed” networking call with Mary (00:41:19) Looking forward – How Evan has been talking to people in pursuit of future endeavors (00:47:48) Books (Barbarian Days), Leading a memoir worth life, Social Media (00:52:37) Evan and Conor’s Social Media Challenge (00:54:43) Dispelling the "Screenager" Stereotype (00:57:08) Redefining Masculinity (00:59:30) What does supporting young men look like? Key Takeaways Pressure doesn’t always look like “bad parenting.” Even “hands-off” support can still carryinvisible expectations—and young adults often feel responsible for meetingthem. Your first network is closer than you think. Coaches, parents’ friends, alumni databases,and “friends of friends” beat cold applications when you’re early in yourjourney. Networking is human, not transactional. People usually want to help—and youdon’t need a “trade” to earn a conversation. The value is the relationship. Career paths aren’t linear after school. The structure you’re used to disappearsafter college; the skill becomes making the next best decision, not the“perfect forever” one. Gen Z doesn’t necessarily love screens. Many feel trapped by them and want more realconnection—but need support to build it. A healthier model of masculinity = mentorship + connection. Strength isn’t “being better than someone,” it’s being grounded enough to help others rise too. Stop quantifying young men. Height, money, status—those metrics flatten a whole person. The realstory is who they are and how they grow. Who This Episode is For Young adults who feel stuck in comparison, pressure, or “the path you’resupposed to take” Student-athletes (and high performers) trying to figure out identitybeyond achievement Anyone overwhelmed by career options and tired of “apply online andpray” advice Parents, coaches, and mentors who want to support young men in a waythat actually helps Listeners who want a more honest conversation about masculinity,connection, and confidence—without stereotypes I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that wecan figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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   25 Feb 2026

   Memoir-Worth vs. Scroll-Worthy: Building a Life You'd Actually Want to Live

   Episode 9: Evan Gold: Winning, Pressure, and Becoming Your Own Person In this episode, I sit down with Evan Gold—Cal Berkeley men’s varsity rower and junior—to unpackwhat it’s like growing up inside a high-achievement bubble, learning to define success for yourself, and building a “real” network in a world that tells you to rack up LinkedIn connections. Evan shares how pressure in Palo Alto shaped his mindset, why choosing Cal was a step toward becoming his own person, and how mentorship + community (especially through sports) can be a protective force for young adults. The episode also tackles screen-time culture, why many young people don’t actually like being on their phones, and what supporting young men can look like when we stop reducing them to metrics. Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:08) Would You Rather (00:04:00) Evan Gold (00:04:38) The "Palo Alto Pressure" – Parental pressure, bubble cultures, and youth mental health (00:12:15) The Mentorship Gap for Young Men (00:15:15) Choosing Cal over Stanford (00:23:50) Choosing a college major (00:26:13) Learning How to Network – Evan shares his big take aways from a “failed” networking call with Mary (00:41:19) Looking forward – How Evan has been talking to people in pursuit of future endeavors (00:47:48) Books (Barbarian Days), Leading a memoir worth life, Social Media (00:52:37) Evan and Conor’s Social Media Challenge (00:54:43) Dispelling the "Screenager" Stereotype (00:57:08) Redefining Masculinity (00:59:30) What does supporting young men look like? Key Takeaways Pressure doesn’t always look like “bad parenting.” Even “hands-off” support can still carryinvisible expectations—and young adults often feel responsible for meetingthem. Your first network is closer than you think. Coaches, parents’ friends, alumni databases,and “friends of friends” beat cold applications when you’re early in yourjourney. Networking is human, not transactional. People usually want to help—and youdon’t need a “trade” to earn a conversation. The value is the relationship. Career paths aren’t linear after school. The structure you’re used to disappearsafter college; the skill becomes making the next best decision, not the“perfect forever” one. Gen Z doesn’t necessarily love screens. Many feel trapped by them and want more realconnection—but need support to build it. A healthier model of masculinity = mentorship + connection. Strength isn’t “being better than someone,” it’s being grounded enough to help others rise too. Stop quantifying young men. Height, money, status—those metrics flatten a whole person. The realstory is who they are and how they grow. Who This Episode is For Young adults who feel stuck in comparison, pressure, or “the path you’resupposed to take” Student-athletes (and high performers) trying to figure out identitybeyond achievement Anyone overwhelmed by career options and tired of “apply online andpray” advice Parents, coaches, and mentors who want to support young men in a waythat actually helps Listeners who want a more honest conversation about masculinity,connection, and confidence—without stereotypes I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that wecan figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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   28 Jan 2026

   From 30 Moves to Version 3.0: Reinventing Work, Home, and Self with Stan Prehu

   Episode 8: Rethinking Success and Meaning in Your 20s In this full-circle conversation, I sit down with Stan Prehu—a Franco-Croatian third-culture kid I first met as a baby in France—who’s moved nearly 30 times and learned to build confidence and community wherever he lands. Stan walks us through the honest version of early adulthood: chasing a “glossy” consulting role in the UK, getting laid off during COVID, and using that forced pause as a reset to choose growth over grind. He relocates to Poland, plays rugby with coal miners, throws himself into humanitarian work when the war in Ukraine begins, and rebuilds a life from the inside out—eventually finding his lane in AI at Amazon. We talk about how five-year plans can box you in, and the mindset that turns a brand-new city into home: show up where your interests live, act like a local, put your phone down, and keep returning until the room becomes yours. Stan gets real about comparison, self-doubt, and the moment he stopped living for external validation. We also touch on relationships: why checklists don’t make you “ready,” but self-respect does, and how finding the right partner quiets the noisy inner critic. This is a story about choosing yourself without losing your humility, measuring compensation in learning, mobility, and alignment (not just salary), and paying it forward to thepeople who lifted you. If you’re stuck in a job that looks good but feels wrong, navigating a new city, or figuring out who you want to be in your 20s, this episode gives you a practical, humane playbook—rooted in courage, community, and heart. Key Takeaways Choose confidence over do-overs. Your path isn’t linear—and that’s a feature. A forced pause can be a gift. Build a life, not just a résumé. Hardship happens, and you owe yourself the happiness you deserve. Humility changes the story. Relationships start with you. Community is legacy. Who This Is For Young adults navigating early-career choices, uncertainty, or a pivot Third-culture kids/expats learning to belong everywhere (and not lose themselves) Recent grads & job seekers who need practical, human advice after a layoff or “wrong fit” role Young men (and those who love them) looking for healthier models of confidence, connection, and support Parents, mentors, and coaches who want language and tools to walk with young adults—without steering for them I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    3 Jan 2026

    You’re Not Your Label: Vaughn Vogel on Being More Than One Thing

    Episode 7: Coming Out Isn’t a Moment — It’s a Process What happens after you finally say the words out loud? In this powerful episode of Fresh Out and FiguringIt Out, Vaughn Vogel (University of Miami senior) opens up about his coming out journey — and the parts people don’t always talk about: the pressure to “do it perfectly,” the fear of risking important relationships, and the identity whiplash that can follow when you’re trying to figure out who you are now that you’re free to be yourself. Vaughn shares how a supportive school environment helped him feel safe… but also how rejection right after coming out triggered a spiral around body image, control, and confidence. The turning point? A mom who noticed the cues, pushed resources with love, and helped him rebuild from the inside out. This conversation is honest, emotional, and deeply hopeful — especially for anyone navigating identity, self-worth, or the pressure to have life “figured out.” What You’ll Hear A real, step-by-step look at coming out — including the fear, planning, and relief Why “you never stop coming out” (and what that actually means) How rejection can turn into control patterns (and how to interrupt them) The pressure of stereotypes: “Do I have to act a certain way to belong?” The power of mentors, counselors, and one safe person to talk to Why young men often delay asking for help — and how to change that Career clarity for Gen Z: internships, experimentation, and choosing what fits Key Takeaways Coming out isn’t a finish line — it’s the beginning of self-discovery. Your identity is bigger than a label. You can have many sides and still be fully you. Rejection is painful — but it doesn’t get to define your worth. If you’re struggling, your problems “count.” Don’t minimize yourself out of support. Parents: watch the cues. Support isn’t one conversation — it’s consistent presence + resources. For early career Gen Z: you’re not lazy — you’re navigating more options than any generation before you. Who This Episode Is For Anyone questioning identity, sexuality, or how they “should” show up in the world Young adults who feel pressure to fit a persona or stereotype to be accepted People healing from rejection, body image spirals, or self-worth dips Parents who want to support their kids without pushing them away Mentors, educators, and leaders who want to better understand young men today Seniors / grads who feel behind because they don’t have the whole plan yet I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    10 Dec 2025

    From Doom Loops to Real Growth: Navigating Your 20s in a New City

    Episode 6: Thriving in San Francisco as an Introvert — Rest, Reflection, and Redefining Success In this episode of Fresh Out and Figuring It Out, Connor Callahan, a 20-something computer engineering grad living in San Francisco, talks about what really happens after college and how he moved past negative thought spirals, learnedto value rest, and found his people in a city obsessed with status, startups, and questions about “what you do”. Connor opens up about moving to a big city, being an introvert in an extrovertedworld, building websites that unexpectedly took off online, and deciding to join his family’s cheese and yogurt business, Bellwether Farms. He shareshonestly about imposter syndrome, “doom loops” of negative thinking, learning to ask for help, building community when you don’t naturally love socializing, and what it actually means to be a man with purpose and values today. It’s a grounded, thoughtful conversation for anyone who thought life would feel “figured out” by now—and is realizing that this in-between stage is where the real growth happens. What You’ll Hear: The story behind his viral writing tool website “Lose theVery” and other creative side projects What it’s really like to move to a new city aftercollege as an introvert How imposter syndrome shows up in everyday choices—socially, professionally, and personally The concept of the “doom loop” and how gratitude andperspective helps break it Why long walks, solo runs, and technology-free time became essential for his mental health How a first serious relationship forced him to grow, make hard decisions, and take agency over his life Practical ways he’s building community now—run clubs, coffee meetups, tennis, poker nights, and more Key Takeaways: Life after college is the first time you design your ownstructure. Freedom is amazing—but you have to be intentional about how you spend your time and where you put your energy. Introverted doesn’t mean antisocial. You might prefer depth over crowds, but you still need people—and it’s okay to build community at your own pace. Your mind can trap you in “doom loops.” When your thoughts spiral into “I don’t belong” or “I’m behind,” you start seeing proof everywhere. Gratitude, old letters, and real rest can reset that pattern. Rest is not laziness—it’s growth. Long walks withoutpodcasts, runs without music, and quiet time away from your phone help you actually hear your own thoughts and values. Experiment early and often. Try different jobs, cities, androles. Optimize for learning, experience, and people you can grow from—not just titles and short-term prestige. Decisions are part of adulthood. Not choosing is still achoice. Whether it’s a relationship, a job, or a city, you won’t get guaranteed “right” answers—but you will learn who you are. Who This Episode Is For: New grads trying to figure out life after college,especially in big cities Introverts who want community but feel drained by typical “networking” culture Parents & caregivers who want to better understand what their sons are actually navigating right now Early-career professionals questioning if the path they’re on is really theirs—or just what they thought they “should” do Anyone in their 20s or 30s who feels behind, stuck incomparison, or caught in their own doom loops and wants a more grounded way forward I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    24 Nov 2025

    More Than a Quarterback: Micah Bowens on Football, Faith & Figuring Life Out

    Episode 5: From the Field to Life: Micah Bowens' Journey Navigating College Football and The Lessons Learned In this episode of Fresh Out and Figuring It Out, I sit down with former D1 quarterback Micah Bowens to unpack what really happens when the dream you’ve chased your whole life suddenly changes. From being a four-star recruit and state champion at Bishop Gorman to playing at Penn State, Oklahoma, and UNC Charlotte, Micah shares the highs of national TV games and scholarship offers—and the lows of coaching changes, COVID, transfers, and a devastating hamstring injury that forced him to rethink everything. We talk about what it means to be a man, the pressure on young men to “be strong” and never show emotion, and how one phone call to his mom in tears changed how he sees vulnerability, faith, and support. Now 24, working in insurance and navigating job interviews and “adulting,” Micah is honest about not having it all figured out—and why that’s exactly okay. What You’ll Hear How Micah went from right tackle at age 7 to starting quarterback at powerhouse Bishop Gorman The reality of being heavily recruited: scholarships, visits, whiteout games, and emotional decisions The behind-the-scenes truth of college football as a business: coaching changes, depth charts, and pressure How he juggled 40+ credit hours, community college classes, and D1 football to graduate early The hamstring injury that tore his season—and Plan A—away right before fall camp How faith, baptism, and reflection helped him reframe his story and find peace beyond football What he’s learning about networking, interviews, and adulting His honest advice for young athletes who dream of playing in college or going pro Key Takeaways Everything happens for a reason—even when you can’t see it yet. Micah’s journey through three schools, five coaches, COVID, and injury reshaped his faith and perspective on purpose. College sports are not just a game—they’re a business. Understanding that early can protectyour mental health and help you make smarter decisions. Being “the man” doesn’t mean being emotionless. Bottling everything up works…until it doesn’t. Vulnerability with the right people is strength, not weakness. You can be both present and purposeful. Micah talks about learning to enjoy where his feet are while still making decisions that serve his long-term vision. It’s okay not to have your next chapter fully mapped out. What matters is staying curious, asking for help, and being willing to pivot. Rejection isn’t the end—it’s reps. From football to job interviews, every “no” is practice, data, and preparation for the right “yes.” Who This Episode Is For Young adults who feel like Plan A didn’t work out and aren’t sure what comes next Current or former athletes navigating life after sports, injury, or major transitions Young men who’ve been told to “be strong” and never show emotion—but are tired of holding it all in Parents, coaches, and mentors who want to better understand what young men are really carrying Anyone who’s still figuring out their path, wondering if they’re behind, and needs the reminder: You’re not late. You’re learning. And you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. I would love to hear your thoughts andcomments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    9 Nov 2025

    Optics vs. Reality: Gen Z, Body Image & Actual Success

    Episode 4: A Day in the Life of Gen Z Entrepreneurship:Grit Over Glamour In this episode, I am joined by 21-year-old entrepreneur and creator Dominic Arvielo for a raw, hopeful conversation about identity, body image, and building something from scratch. Dom traces his path from theater kid to music producer to founder of Zigzy, a social media tech + management company. Along the way, he opens up about his battle with an eating disorder—how performance, social media optics, andobsessiveness fed it, and how asking for help, reframing goals, and channeling that same drive into healthy ambition helped him rebuild. We unpack the unique pressure Gen Z faces online, why entertainment beats “traditional ads” on social, and what early entrepreneurship really looks like (spoiler: less glamour, more grit). Dom shares hard-won lessons on failingfast, starting lean, and choosing to be known for your mind, not your body. The episode doubles as a guide for parents—how to support without smothering, hold boundaries with compassion, and stick with your kid through the hardest parts. What You’ll Hear From stage to startups: Theater roots → music production → founding a seven-person social media company. Inside the disorder: What it felt like at the worst point, why it’s so hidden in young men, and how recovery began. Optics vs. reality: How social platforms reward appearance—and how to opt out mentally. College or not?: The value (and limits) of degrees, self-teaching, and learning how to think. Gen Z at work: Competence, value creation, and why you can’t ChatGPT your way into a career. Parent playbook: Stay, listen, don’t take the heat personally, and never give up. Takeaways Ask for help early. Suffering in silence is heavier than sharing the load. Be known for your mind. Shift focus from body/optics to ideas, skills, and contribution. Start small, start now. “Anything you can do with $1,000, you can do with $10—it’s just harder.” Test, learn, iterate. Create for why people scroll. Entertain, inspire, or educate—then add a clear CTA. Failure is data. Fail fast, analyze, pivot. Pride down, learning up. Self-teach as a superpower. Curiosity + consistency beats credentials alone. Support young men by stretching them. Space to try, fall, and get back up—plus real check-ins about mental health. Who It’s For Young adults navigating identity, body image, and big career choices. Early-stage founders/creators who want the unfiltered version of building a business. Parents & mentors looking for practical, compassionate ways to support without over-controlling. Leaders & HR pros curious about how Gen Z really thinks about work, value, and social media. I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    22 Oct 2025

    Resilience in Action: How Grit and Discipline Turn Setbacks

    Episode 3: A Day in the Life of a Division 1 Rower: A Story About Humility, Coachability, and Showing Up In this episode, I sit down with a very special guest—my son, Conor. From family stories to Division I rowing, this conversation is a journey through resilience, risk-taking, and the powerof community. We start with family stories: the giant baby who wore men’s shoe sizes by age five, the Southern-boy-meets-Irish-name combo, and my own first-time-mom worries. Then, Conor takes us into the world of sports—the heartbreak of his last high school basketball game, the brotherhood of team bonds, and the surprising ways men build connection through shared struggle. Conor opens up about finding rowing asa “second-chance sport,” and the whirlwind that took him from GWU to following his dream of rowing for a Division 1 program. What follows is raw and real: the high of being recruited, to setbacks, and the spiral of doubt. But this isn’t just a story of loss—it’s about the comeback. Conor shares how discipline, not motivation, got him out of bed to keep training when everything felt over. He found a newcommunity, rebuilt his confidence, and turned consistency into growth. We close with big reflections: what itmeans to be a man today, how young adults can push back on stereotypes, and the importance of congratulating and supporting one another—especially for young men who don’t always hear that message. This episode is a mix of laughter, honesty, and hard truths about resilience, risk, and finding your place. If you’re a parent, an athlete, or a young adult trying to figure out who you are—you’ll find yourself in this story. What You’ll Hear: What failure really teaches you when you keep showing up anyway How to build confidence by doing hard things, not waiting for the perfect moment Why feedback is a gift, even when it stings The mental toughness it takes to be a collegiate athlete The ultimate team lesson: progress only happens when everyone rows in sync Takeaways: Resilience is a choice: You don’t control the outcome—you control the next rep, the next practice, the next email. Consistency beats motivation: Start first; motivation follows momentum. Coachability = trust: Take feedback on the chin, make the change, prove you’re moldable. Seek hard rooms: You won’t grow if you’re the best in the boat; surround yourself with people who push you. Team > talent: Synchronization, shared language, and clear race plans create winning crews. Time is a skill: Prioritize, protect sleep, and stack small routines that travel with you. Redefine masculinity: Check in on your guys, have real conversations, celebrate each other’s wins. Mentorship multiplies: Be the person you wish you had—one text a month can change aseason. Who This is For: Parents & mentors supporting young adults through high-stakes transitions. Coaches & leaders who value feedback cultures and want teams aligned on one message. Any young adult who’s been humbled, is rebuilding, or just needs proof that discipline works. I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it outtogether! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    22 Oct 2025

    Resilience in Action: How Grit and Discipline Turn Setbacks Into Strength

    Episode 3: A Day in the Life of a Division 1 Rower: A Story About Humility, Coachability, and Showing Up In this episode, I sit down with a very special guest—my son, Conor. From family stories to Division I rowing, this conversation is a journey through resilience, risk-taking, and the power of community. We start with family stories: the giant baby who wore men’s shoe sizes by age five, the Southern-boy-meets-Irish-name combo, and my own first-time-mom worries. Then, Conor takes us into the world of sports—the heartbreak of his last high school basketball game, the brotherhood of team bonds, and the surprising ways men build connection through shared struggle. Conor opens up about finding rowing as a “second-chance sport,” and the whirlwind that took him from GWU to following his dream of rowing for a Division 1 program. What follows is raw and real: the high of being recruited, to setbacks, and the spiral of doubt. But this isn’t just a story of loss—it’s about the comeback. Conor shares how discipline, not motivation, got him out of bed to keep training when everything felt over. He found a new community, rebuilt his confidence, and turned consistency into growth. We close with big reflections: what it means to be a man today, how young adults can push back on stereotypes, and the importance of congratulating and supporting one another—especially for young men who don’t always hear that message. This episode is a mix of laughter, honesty, and hard truths about resilience, risk, and finding your place. If you’re a parent, an athlete, or a young adult trying to figure out who you are—you’ll find yourself in this story. What You’ll Hear: What failure really teaches you when you keep showing up anyway How to build confidence by doing hard things, not waiting for the perfect moment Why feedback is a gift, even when it stings The mental toughness it takes to be a collegiate athlete The ultimate team lesson: progress only happens when everyone rows in sync Takeaways Resilience is a choice: You don’t control the outcome—you control the next rep, the next practice, the next email. Consistency beats motivation: Start first; motivation follows momentum. Coachability = trust: Take feedback on the chin, make the change, prove you’re moldable. Seek hard rooms: You won’t grow if you’re the best in the boat; surround yourself with people who push you. Team > talent: Synchronization, shared language, and clear race plans create winning crews. Time is a skill: Prioritize, protect sleep, and stack small routines that travel with you. Redefine masculinity: Check in on your guys, have real conversations, celebrate each other’s wins. Mentorship multiplies: Be the person you wish you had—one text a month can change a season. Who This is For Student-athletes & competitors weighing risk, transfers, or trying to bounce back. Parents & mentors supporting young adults through high-stakes transitions. Coaches & leaders who value feedback cultures and want teams aligned on one message. Any young adult who’s been humbled, is rebuilding, or just needs proof that discipline works. I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    1 Oct 2025

    Are We Leaving Our Boys Behind? Rethinking masculinity, mental health, and mentorship with Dr. Carli Snyder

    Episode 2: Why I am so passionate about building a community that lifts both men and women up In this conversation, I sit down with my dear friend Dr. Carli Snyder—a board-certified clinical psychologist licensed in CA and NV with 25 years in practice—whose philosophy is simple and powerful: health is wealth. We explore what she’s learned working with young adults through a holistic mind-body lens, why connection is mental health’s best friend, and how small actions create real momentum. We dig into the wins and worries for this generation: girls are soaring academically yet reporting record anxiety; boys are too often lonely, under-mentored, and slower to seek help. We talk about how labels like “toxic masculinity” can shut down useful dialogue, and why reframing masculinity as a set of human behaviors—not a gender identity—opens the door to support both our sons and our daughters. You’ll hearwhy community (teams, faith groups, recovery circles) gives boys a language for emotion, and how mentors—especially positive male role models—change trajectories. Threaded throughout is a simple mindset shift: it’s not either/or; it’s and. We can champion girls and lift up boys. Abundance over scarcity. Empathy over polarization. What You’ll Hear Carli's holistic approach (sleep, food, movement, mindfulness) and why it's finally mainstream. The loneliness trend in young men, how it shows up, and what parents often miss. Why girls and boys are struggling with the same core needs - belonging, purpose, real friendships. Language matters: moving from "but" to "and" to change the conversation. Takeaways & Tiny Actions Action absorbs anxiety: leave the house, take a walk, talk to a human. Build connection on purpose: join a team, club, faith group. Find (or be) a mentor; normalize asking for help. Feel your feelings - fully. They're data points about what matters to you. Practice the "and" - support women and men so all young adults thrive. Who It’s For Parents, educators, leaders, coaches, and young adults who believe we can raise a generation of confident, compassionate leaders—together. For more information about Dr. Carli Snyder, you can contact her through her website: www.drcarlisnyder.com (http://www.drcarlisnyder.com) I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/⁠ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd ⁠https://www.mckleadership.com/⁠ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) ⁠https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/⁠ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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    1 Sept 2025

    My Story & The WHY Behind This Podcast

    Episode 1: Why I Finally Hit Record 🎙️ After years of excuses (“too busy, not the right time, maybe next year…”), I realized the truth: fear was holding me back. Fear of being vulnerable, imperfect, judged. And yet—here I am. Ready or not. In this episode, I share the real story behind starting Fresh Out & Figuring It Out—from growing up as a 1.5 generation Korean American straddling two cultures, to chasing achievement as a way to earn love, to finally realizing that belonging and worth can’t come from checking boxes. This podcast is my love letter to young adults—my sons, and the incredible Gen Z and millennials who inspire me every single day. You’ll hear why I believe your voices matter, why it’s time to rewrite harmful stereotypes (especially about young men), and why we need a community that lifts everyone up. This isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being real. And if I’m asking you to show up courageously, I have to go first. So let’s do this—together. 💛 I would love to hear your thoughts and comments and share this podcast with your friends so that we can figure it out together! Follow me so we can stay connected! https://www.instagram.com/freshoutpodcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd (https://www.tiktok.com/@marychoikellyphd) https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/ (https://www.facebook.com/marychoikelly/) https://www.mckleadership.com/ (https://www.mckleadership.com/) https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/ (https://www.womenshospitalityinitiative.com/) https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/marychoikelly/)

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