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From Woke to Work: The Anti-Racist Journey

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This is From Woke to Work: The Anti-Racist Journey. Hosted by Kamala Avila-Salmon, she talks about what it means to go from a self-proclaimed ally to an effective anti-racist. Whether you’re an ally that’s ready to take action or a Black person looking for a place to direct all those ally questions, this is the podcast you’ll want to keep close at hand. There's something missing about the way that we're talking about allyship. Kamala felt it more acutely than ever in the wake of the murders of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. In this moment, the biggest global awakening on racism and racial injustice in a generation, more and more white and non-black people started showing up declaring themselves “Anti-Racist”. What were they doing? What were they actually doing besides messages of concern to their black friends and turning your profile pictures Black? What actions were they taking? Kamala started to get mad, but then she got curious. Did these newly “woke” allies know they needed to do things to bring about racial justice and equity? Did they know what to do? She put pen to paper and sketched out an anti-racism journey modeled after the traditional marketing funnel of how we get consumers from unaware to adopters of our product. Over the series of this podcast, Kamala will talk about that journey; how you can go from being woke (i.e. aware of racial inequity and injustice) to actually doing the work and eradicating it.

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Episode thumbnail for Anti-Asian Violence w/ Dr. Jennifer Ho,  Marla Teyolia & Kim Trinh

April 28, 2021

Anti-Asian Violence w/ Dr. Jennifer Ho, Marla Teyolia & Kim Trinh

<p class="ql-align-justify">A black square on Instagram doesn’t make you an anti-racist, but there is a path to follow. Welcome to From Woke to Work, the Anti-Racist Journey, a podcast created and hosted by Kamala Ávila-Salmon, with the mission to make an impactful dent in people’s understand of how to actually combat racism. Whether you’re an ally ready to take action or a black person with a bunch of ally-related questions, this podcast will draw a clear path for you to follow towards true anti-racism.</p><p class="ql-align-justify">Kamala is back at the mic, sooner than anticipated, to do her part in helping us have the conversations we need in order to advance racial justice. “Enough is enough!” and #StopAsianHate. To be clear- what is happening to Asians and Asian-American people in our country right now is not okay. While this podcast centered stories around Black experiences and anti-Blackness specifically, the goal is anti-racism and effective allyship and that applies to ALL of us. This is a goal that is truly universal because White supremacy attacks all people of color for the purpose of advancing and elevating Whiteness, period.&nbsp;</p><p>To share the mic and have a discussion, she&nbsp; invited some really extraordinary guests. First up is Marla Teyolia, a first generation Mexican woman who is the CEO and Founder of Culture Shift Agency. Next is Kim Trin, her friend and former colleague, who is the embodiment of a co-conspirator and a practitioner of cross-racial solidarity and advocacy. Finally, we are beyond privileged to have Dr. Jennifer Ho, the daughter of a refugee father from China and an immigrant mother from Jamaica; she is the director of the Center for Humanities &amp; the Arts at the University of Colorado Boulder, where she also holds an appointment as Professor of Ethnic Studies.</p><p>Enjoy this powerful, necessary discussion.</p><p class="ql-align-justify"><strong>Jump straight into:</strong></p><p class="ql-align-justify">(00:45) - The spike in violence and discrimination against Asians and Asian-Americans - “White supremacy attacks all people of color for the simple purpose of advancing and elevating whiteness.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(04:11) - Cross-racial nuances: 3 important facts you NEED to understand - “We have a common enemy and it is not each other. That is yet another one of the lies of white supremacy.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(07:09) - Asian-hate is old news: Why is it getting media attention now? - “It's always going to be a matter of keeping us obedient and ensuring that if we knew that we were important enough to have an opinion that should be heard, we would become too loud for white supremacy to be able to drown us out.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(13:31) - Why is it so hard to stand with Asian-Americans? - “White society has such a limited attention span and so if they're not talking about black people anymore then we're forgotten, and now they're talking about this other group.”&nbsp;</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(20:23) - The Model Minority Myth is not a compliment, it’s a disservice - “The model minority myth is trying to drive a racial wedge between Asian-American and Pacific Islanders and black indigenous and Latin X people.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(24:51) - The reasons we don´t know about the historical cooperation and coalition between black and Asian communities - “We have bought into this idea that Asians and Asian-Americans are good, they are accepted, they are where we're trying to get to and they're blocking us.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(33:33) - White people need to do the work about racism at the workplace - “What you're actually afraid of is not the rejection of people of color, you're afraid of the rejection of white people.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(42:22) - What’s it like living in this moment being an Asian American woman - “I'm just worried. My mother goes out to get her morning cup of coffee, will she return?...

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March 10, 2021

FAQs (Frequent Ally Questions) w/ Jovian Zayne, Chia-Lin Simmons & Terri J Vaughn

<p class="ql-align-justify">A black square on Instagram doesn’t make you an anti-racist, but there is a path to follow. Welcome to From Woke to Work, the Anti-Racist Journey, a podcast created and hosted by Kamala Avila-Salmon, with the mission to make an impactful dent in people’s understand of how to actually combat racism. Whether you’re an ally ready to take action or a black person with a bunch of ally-related questions, this podcast will draw a clear path for you to follow towards true anti-racism.</p><p>Our journey together, at least this portion of it, is coming to an end. Now that we have fully unpacked the anti-racist journey, we want to end with FAQs.&nbsp;If you’ve listened before, you know that our FAQs are not “frequently asked questions” (though they are) but instead stands for “frequent ally questions”, which are questions that Kamala has heard a lot in her time cultivating intentional conversations about race and racism. When you’re learning something new, it’s normal to have questions and I think having lots of questions CAN be a sign of high-engagement. Notice we said they CAN be- sometimes, they instead function as excuses to not take action, as reasons why it’s too hard, too complicated, or not practical. Examples of those include “I know we need to talk about Black issues but what about….(insert some other group here?” Or “Don’t you think White people face just as much racism as Black people now?”</p><p>In today’s episode, we will focus on genuinely offered, highly constructive FAQs. The ones that come from people who really want to do the work and I invited back a few of our amazing guests from past episodes to help me unpack the best ones. Welcome back Jovian Zayne, the powerhouse who kicked us off in the Awareness episode, Chia-Lin Simmons who helped us sort through the importance of empathy, and Terri J Vaughn, who joined us for a discussion on Allyship.&nbsp;</p><p class="ql-align-justify"><strong>Jump straight into:</strong></p><p class="ql-align-justify">(02:15) - I said or did something perceived as racist, what should I do now? - “If you're more concerned about being right than getting it right, you will continue to make mistakes and sit in it in a way that doesn't move the work forward”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(11:36) - Strategies and tactics to increase commitment to hire diverse talent… or create one - “You're going to have to examine policies and procedures and examine the relationships you have that help to bring in exceptional people of color, and we're everywhere.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(23:03) - Do we really need more data to know that diversity is good business? - “They already know the impact of our culture, of our voices, of our fashion, of our style… I think that it's just embedded in their culture to find ways to impact our influence by saying stuff like, well, they don't sell over the seas.”&nbsp;</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(34:37) - Who should I be supporting? Vetted leads of organizations that are tackling racial equity issues&nbsp; - "One that comes to mind for me is the Equal Justice Institute. Changing systems, as opposed to solely focusing on individual cases or individual anecdotes. I think we have to really look at the root causes and the root systems."</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(36:26) - Why it takes a lot more than just creating a Diversity Chief Officer, goals and metrics to educate inside an organization - "Empathy is so necessary for us to see each other. You've got to fund this work. You can't say, 'we want to allocate $10,000 for this work over the year, or even for a day of training'… that just doesn't work. D&amp;I work helps people to be fundamentally better."</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(43:46) - Stop clapping yourself because you marched. On diversity clauses in the VC world and other ways to give real crap about these issues - "When was the last time that you bought something from a black owned business? […] No more writing checks...

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March 3, 2021

Now What w/ Host Kamala Avila-Salmon

<p class="ql-align-justify">A black square on Instagram doesn’t make you an anti-racist, but there is a path to follow. Welcome to From Woke to Work, the Anti-Racist Journey, a podcast created and hosted by Kamala Avila-Salmon, with the mission to make an impactful dent in people’s understand of how to actually combat racism. Whether you’re an ally ready to take action or a black person with a bunch of ally-related questions, this podcast will draw a clear path for you to follow towards true anti-racism.</p><p>&nbsp;We made it all the way through our journey from awareness to sympathy, through to empathy and reflection and all the way to allyship. And finally, anti-racism not to mention our detour stops to talk about the importance of relationships and anti-racist work and processing that attempted coup at the Capitol.</p><p>In this episode, Kamala goes solo to provide 5 steps to take action and keep moving forward in the antiracist journey. Enjoy and however you start, keep going.</p><p><strong style="text-align: justify;">Jump straight into:</strong></p><p class="ql-align-justify">(00:46) - We’ve made it through this series but... is it enough? - “My hope for the future really rests in more and more non-black people, and especially white people, deciding that figuring out how to talk about race and how to actually see and address racism is worth it to them. “</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(03:54) - Now what? 5 steps to take action and keep moving forward in the antiracist journey - “Wherever you are right now is okay, knowing where you are is what matters because if you know where you are, you can make a plan for how to get to where you want to be.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify">(10:02) - One last thing: Please discard “white neutrality” - “When we go to a white person, they are not giving us an objective point of view, they are giving us a white frame to point of view via the lens through which they inhabit and exist in the world.”</p><p class="ql-align-justify"><strong>Resources</strong></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510312/codeswitch" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Code Switch Podcast</a>&nbsp;</p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://gimletmedia.com/shows/the-nod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Nod Podcast</a></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="http://thisistheread.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Read Podcast</a></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://shadowandact.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Shadow &amp; Act</a></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://thegrio.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Grio</a></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://www.essence.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Essence</a></p><p class="ql-align-justify"><a href="https://www.ebony.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ebony</a></p><p>Thanks for tuning in! Don’t forget to follow<a href="https://www.instagram.com/therealkas1" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Kamala</a> on Instagram to learn more. Subscribe, rate and share this podcast so more people can find it, let’s spread the word!</p><p>From Woke to Work is a show produced and hosted by Kamala Avila-Salmon in partnership with Julian Lewis and TJ Bonaventura at<a href="https://studiopodsf.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> StudioPod</a>. Edited at<a href="https://nodalab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Nodalab</a>, art by Tommy Gomez, and music produced by davecantrap.</p>

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What is From Woke to Work: The Anti-Racist Journey?

This is From Woke to Work: The Anti-Racist Journey. Hosted by Kamala Avila-Salmon, she talks about what it means to go from a self-proclaimed ally to an effective anti-racist. Whether you’re an ally that’s ready to take action or a Black person looking for a place to direct all those ally questions, this is the podcast you’ll want to keep close at hand.

There's something missing about the way that we're talking about allyship. Kamala felt it more acutely than ever in the wake of the murders of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. In this moment, the biggest global awakening on racism and racial injustice in a generation, more and more white and non-black people started showing up declaring themselves “Anti-Racist”. What were they doing? What were they actually doing besides messages of concern to their black friends and turning your profile pictures Black? What actions were they taking?

Kamala started to get mad, but then she got curious. Did these newly “woke” allies know they needed to do things to bring about racial justice and equity? Did they know what to do? She put pen to paper and sketched out an anti-racism journey modeled after the traditional marketing funnel of how we get consumers from unaware to adopters of our product.

Over the series of this podcast, Kamala will talk about that journey; how you can go from being woke (i.e. aware of racial inequity and injustice) to actually doing the work and eradicating it.

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This podcast updates daily.

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