A cybersecurity podcast. Cyber conversations with more signal, less Noise.
Noise2Signal is the antidote to the cybersecurity echo chamber: unfiltered conversations with the people who actually built the field — no buzzword bingo, no vendor pitches.
Ep. 23 Running a Business is a series of Hacks w/ Haroon Meer
Thinkst Canary has thousands of paying customers. It has taken no VC money and has no outbound sales team, and it\'s HQ\'d in South Africa 🤯. In the Season 2 finale of Noise2Signal, Haroon Meer explains how they did it, and why he passed on Tier 1 VC. He covers the RSA playbook that sells companies instead of products, and a fake CMO who picked up industry awards. He also describes the day an analyst told him why big-name vendors land in the leader quadrant. If you\'ve wondered whether a good product can still win in a market full of noise, this episode is your answer. No wonder the episode airs on the Noise2Signal podcast
13 Oct 2026
Ep. 22 DEF CON is Dead, Security is Cooked? w/ Jason Haddix
Jason Haddix came home from DEF CON frustrated by all the talk that security is finished. He answered with an article asking whether DEF CON is dead and security is cooked, and he says the title was sarcastic. He tells Mehul that AI agents now let his team at Arcanum test every JavaScript file and every parameter. They keep turning up old bugs buried deep in applications, including an unauthenticated SSRF that gave them control of a company's entire Kubernetes fleet. They also talk about the 10-year-old who beat all five levels of his team's prompt-injection CTF at DEF CON in about 15 minutes, and why Jason calls "machine-speed defense" BS. Jason expects offense to keep the edge for the next year or two. He explains why AI triage works only for companies with good SOPs, and why defenders should get rid of whole classes of bugs instead of playing whack-a-mole.
29 Sept 2026
Ep. 21 Seven Samurai's of VulnOps & Dead Men (SaaS?) Walking w/ Nico Popp
Nico Popp, operating partner at Crosspoint Capital Partners and former Chief Product Officer at Tenable, joins Mehul to explain why he came back from Black Hat saying there were "dead men walking everywhere." He argues that putting AI on top of a legacy product doesn't make it AI-native. The real shift is a new architecture: sensors feed a context graph, the graph feeds a reasoning layer, and agents sit on top where the console used to be. They cover what makes a durable moat now ("the three musketeers": agentic architecture, captured agent trajectories, and your own reinforcement-learned models), why wiring in frontier models is a strategic blunder, and Nico's "Seven Samurai" framework for VulnOps. That framework describes how vulnerability management has to change when attackers are agentic, and why it ends up absorbed into the agentic SOC. Along the way they discuss the Cisco–Kenna and ServiceNow–Armis deals, the future of the console UI and what happens to entry-level security jobs.
Chapters
00:00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw) Welcome and introductions
01:17 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=77s) Black Hat, "dead men walking," and why every company is now legacy
03:24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=204s&pp=0gcJCWMAwfN6Pr3D) What AI-native really means: sensors → context → reasoning → agents
07:20 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=440s) SaaSpocalypse or SaaS renaissance? The case against building on frontier models
12:54 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=774s&pp=0gcJCWMAwfN6Pr3D) Building moats in the age of AI: the three musketeers
19:09 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=1149s) "Agentic" everything, platformization, and where CTEM goes
23:46 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=1426s) VulnOps and the Seven Samurai: shift left, appliances and continuous scanning
38:21 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=2301s&pp=0gcJCWMAwfN6Pr3D) Validation, prioritization, and the Kenna and Armis acquisitions
50:36 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uYbumwbwdw&t=3036s) Agentic patching, virtual patching and the federated agentic SOC
1:00:02 Hot takes: the death of the console, AI labs vs. cyber vendors, and CTEM's future
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