We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.

Future Learning Design Podcast
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We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.
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June 6, 2026
Learning Not to Save the World - A Conversation with Anthea Lawson
<p>A big part of where I see shifts happening in education systems is encouraging young people to get out into the world, into their communities and make a difference to issues that they care about. There is so much learning that can happen in this process. I have shared a few episodes in the past with fantastic people like Cathrine Berger-Kaye, Daniela Papi-Thornton and Zoe Weil, supporting young people and educators in this kind of work. But there are also some fascinating and important considerations to be aware of when we step into this work, so that we really have the impact that we are hoping to, and don’t replicate past harms and unhelpful patterns. My guest this week, Anthea Lawson, has been working on the front line of this kind of work for decades and has learned through her own experience just how complex and entangled these issues are that we care about doing something about. And she has been sharing her gathered wisdom on it in her previous book The Entangled Activist, and very excitingly her new book, out this week, ‘How Not to Save the World: Doing good without annoying everyone’. George Monbiot has described it as a wise, rich and crucial book! And I can certainly recommend it myself. </p><p>As a journalist, campaigner and writer, Anthea Lawson has fought for many issues over three decades including controls on the arms trade and an end to the financial secrecy offered by tax havens. She helped launch a campaign for transparency over company ownership which resulted in changes to the law in dozens of countries. After training as a journalist at The Times, she worked for campaign groups including Global Witness and Amnesty International.</p><p>Her writing helps people who want to change the world think about the psychological, spiritual and philosophical foundations of what they’re doing, what’s getting in the way, and how they can be more effective.</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Anthea's website: <a href="https://www.anthealawson.uk/"><u>https://www.anthealawson.uk/</u></a></p><p>'How Not to Save the World' Book: https://www.anthealawson.uk/how-not-to-save-the-world</p><p>'The Entangled Activist' Book: https://www.anthealawson.uk/the-entangled-activist</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthea-lawson/ </p><p>Don't Talk About Politics: How to Change 21st-Century Minds by Sarah Stein Lubrano: https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/dont-talk-about-politics-9781399413916/</p><p>More info about the Antidebate: https://systems-souls-society.com/praxis/antidebate/</p>

May 30, 2026
How Embodiment Science Transforms Education - A Conversation with Prof. Guy Claxton and Emily Poel
<p>This week is a huge privilege to have my good friends Emily Poel and Guy Claxton returning to the podcast in celebration of the release this week of their fabulous new book, Bodies of Learning: How Embodiment Science Transforms Education. It's a really significant book! that lays out, unlike any other, the deep implications of 4E cognitive science that support and strengthen the case for a more healthy, more human(e), moregenerative educational experience for our young people; which is everything this channel is about. </p><p>Link to the book: <a href="https://www.bodiesoflearning.org/">https://www.bodiesoflearning.org/</a> </p><p><strong>Prof. Guy Claxton </strong>is a cognitive scientist, education thought leader, and author of The Future of Teaching and Intelligencein the Flesh among many other books, with decades of research on expanding human intelligence and applying learning science in real-world contexts. </p><p>He has spent most of his working life based in a variety of UK universities including Oxford, Bristol, King’s College London and Winchester. Increasingly his work has taken a more practical turn, and he has been involved with a wide range of organisations where a better understanding of human intelligence is needed. For example, he has been: </p><p>Consultant on education to the Royal Albert Hall; workshop leader for Premier League Youth Football Coaches; lecturer at the Siobhan Davies Dance School and the London College of Fashion; Inaugural lecturer at Her Majesty's Treasury Learning Centre; meditation teacher at Atsitsa holiday centre on the Greek island of Skyros (where I met my wife Judith); consultant to the Centre for Contemplative Education research project on mindfulness in European schools (under the auspices of HH The Dalai Lama); guest lecturer at the Harvard Learning Innovations Laboratory (LILA); consultant to the South Australian Department of Education and Child Development among many others.</p><p>Links: <a href="https://www.guyclaxton.net/">https://www.guyclaxton.net/</a> </p><p>Recent Deans Lecture Series, University of Melbourne: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGFEswKBnMw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGFEswKBnMw</a> </p><p><strong>Emily Poel</strong> is a Berlin-based embodiment practitioner who has taught internationally for over fifteen years, developing practical methods that show how movement and physical awareness shape creativity, thinking, and learning.Originally from Michigan and with a degree in contemporary dance performance and history, she's worked internationally as a performer, choreographer and creative advisor. In 2004 she shifted her focus to embodiment training and hasn’t stopped since. Over the last ten years she's developed a large collection of activities using physical awareness tools and movement training to better understand how creativity,learning and thinking actually work. </p><p>Links: <a href="https://embodimentatwork.co/">https://embodimentatwork.co/</a> </p><p>Move4Schools - <a href="https://move4schools.com/">https://move4schools.com/</a> </p><p><strong>Previous episodes featuring Guy and Emily:</strong></p><p>We Need More Embodied Education! A Conversation with Arawana Hayashi, Prof. Guy Claxton, Dr. Akhil K. Singh, Emily Poel and Caroline Williams: <a href="https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast/embodied-education">https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast/embodied-education</a></p><p>Finding 'Aliveness' in Schools - A Conversation with Prof. Guy Claxton: <a href="https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast/guy-claxton">https://www.goodimpactlabs.com/podcast/guy-claxton</a></p>

May 16, 2026
We are Intertwined Creatures - A Conversation with Prof. Tony Chemero
<p>If you think about which verbs dominate formal education you’ll probably come up with a list like learning, thinking, reasoning, remembering, knowing, and maybe behaving. Now think about what images come to mind when you consider those verbs, or do a google image search and see what you get! I’m willing to bet that the most common images coming up are of individual heads, maybe with a visible brain or cogs, doing the thinking, the reasoning, the learning, the cognition. And to emphasise the point further, when we want to highlight that it’s more than one thinker or reasoner doing the work, we have to put clarifying adjectives or nouns in front, like group cognition, collective learning or collaborative problem solving. But the fact is, we are actually already “intertwined creatures” in our entanglement with each other and the world. We think, learn and reason all the time with and through each other and the objects we interact with, and the places we are in. My guest this week, Professor Tony Chemero, has been a major proponent of ‘radical embodied cognition’ for his whole career as a professor of philosophy and psychology. His latest book, brilliantly titled, ‘Intertwined Creatures: The Embodied Cognitive Science of Self and Other’ is an amazing articulation of just how interconnected we are as creatures and learners in the world. Tony is a Distinguished Research Professor of Philosophy and Psychology at the University of Cincinnati, and a primary member of both the Center for Cognition, Action, and Perception[1] and the Strange Tools Research Lab. </p><p>As well as many academic articles, he is the author of: </p><p>Radical Embodied Cognitive Science (2009, MIT Press) - https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516471/radical-embodied-cognitive-science/</p><p>Phenomenology, with Stephan Käufer (2015, Polity Press; second edition, 2021) - https://www.wiley.com/en-be/Phenomenology%3A+An+Introduction%2C+2nd+Edition-p-9781509540662</p><p>Intertwined Creatures: The Embodied Cognitive Science of Self and Other’ (2026, Columbia University Press) - https://cup.columbia.edu/book/intertwined-creatures/9780231223195/</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Chemero" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Chemero</a> <br><a href="https://researchdirectory.uc.edu/p/chemeray" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://researchdirectory.uc.edu/p/chemeray</a> </p>
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