People aren't born with prejudice. They learn it. A lot of what we’re taught growing up, either through our schooling, the media, or simply wider society, is harmful. This podcast explores the concept of "unlearning" through interviews with inspiring leaders and asks: what can we replace these harmful ideologies with? Ultimately this is a podcast about hope, self-improvement, and human connection. Learn more on the website: www.gettingreflective.com

Getting Reflective - a podcast about unlearning
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People aren't born with prejudice. They learn it. A lot of what we’re taught growing up, either through our schooling, the media, or simply wider society, is harmful. This podcast explores the concept of "unlearning" through interviews with inspiring leaders and asks: what can we replace these harmful ideologies with? Ultimately this is a podcast about hope, self-improvement, and human connection. Learn more on the website: www.gettingreflective.com
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Recent Episodes

February 6, 2025
Can you stay friends with your ex? Lindsay interviews her ex boyfriend, Taylar Mallo
<p>When most people think about breakups, they think: heartbreak, distance, and the quiet fading of someone who once meant everything. But what if that doesn’t have to be the case? What if love, instead of disappearing, could just... change? In this episode ofGetting Reflective, I’m sitting down with my ex, Taylar Mallo (he/him), to ask the question:Can you stay friends with your ex?<br></p><p>Taylar isn’t just an old partner—he was the originalGetting Reflective listener, which definitely feels like a full-circle moment. We’re peeling back the layers of our relationship, from what drew us together to what ultimately led us to end our romantic partnership, and—maybe most importantly—how we found our way back to each other as friends.</p><p><br></p><p>A lot of people would say it’s impossible to stay friends with an ex, but we’re here to challenge that idea. We talk about the work it takes, the emotional intelligence required, and the unexpected bumps along the way—like what happens when your ex starts dating someone new (spoiler: that someone is Dr. Sawyer Phinney). But at its core, this episode is about unlearning what we think relationshipsshould look like and embracing the ways they can evolve. </p><p><br></p><p>You can find Taylar and his music via his instagram: @taylarmallo </p><p><br></p><p>— </p><p>My music is written and recorded by the Kingston High All Stars, in Wellington, New Zealand. </p><p>My graphics, website, and illustrations are designed and maintained by MaggsyMayCo in Waterloo, Ontario. </p>

February 1, 2025
The cost of conformity: SOGICE, pastoral harm, and queer resistance - Lindsay interviews Willow Sipling
<p>Willow Sipling (she/they) is a public policy sociologist who generates research and writing on social phenomena in the realm of labor, ethics, sociology of religion, and more.</p> <p><br /></p> <p>Willow has experience in higher education, HR, communications, and technology. Willow earned two Master’s degrees in humanities and is a sociology PhD student at Western Michigan University. </p> <p><br /></p> <p>In this episode, Willow and I dive into SOGICE, which stands for sexual orientation and gender identity change efforts. So, using frame analysis, we look at how while conversation therapy is one of the most extreme forms of SOGICE, SOGICE can also at times be less overt. An attempt of any kind to make somebody stop being gay; stop being queer; stop being themselves, is SOGICE. And these subtle forms of SOGICE can result in significant harm, too.</p> <p><br /></p> <p>Willow and I do touch on some of the more violent forms of SOGICE, so if this could be triggering to you, you may wish to skip those parts. </p> <p><br /></p> <p>Willow is funny, engaging, and highly informed. I hope you enjoy the learning and unlearning process. </p> <p><br /></p> <p>You can find Willow online: </p> <ul> <li>Substack: <a href="http://spotlightonsociety.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spotlightonsociety.com</a></li> <li>Bluesky: @willowwillowwillow.bsky.social</li> <li><a href="http://willowsipling.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">willowsipling.com</a></li> </ul> <p><br /></p> <p>— </p> <p>My music is written and recoded by the Kingston High All Stars, in Wellington, NZ. </p> <p>My graphics, website, and illustrations are designed and maintained by MaggsyMayCo, in Waterloo Ontario. </p>

January 16, 2025
It’s not you, it’s society: language, shame, and disability justice - Lindsay interviews Alicia Ciocca
<p>Alicia Ciocca (she/her/ella), is white and Latina, with Puerto Rican and Italian heritage. Alicia has been an educator in the NYC Department of Education for over 10 years, teaching students with disabilities. </p> <p><br></p> <p>Recently, she left to start her own inclusive education coaching practice to bring Disabilities Studies in Education into the classroom. Alicia focuses on embedding disability identity, history, and culture into curricula, and fostering environments where children experience joy, pride in their identities, and success in learning through educator development and systems level change. </p> <p><br></p> <p>In this episode, Alicia shares about the history of disability rights and disability justice, which requires a shift from thinking about disability as a problem with an individual, to a more informed understanding that society has not historically been built with disabled, or neurodivergent folks in mind. The issue is a problem with our spaces, mindsets, and with society more broadly. Not a problem with disabled people. Throughout the episode, we talk about access, inclusivity, and equity, through an intersectional lens.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Alicia aptly points out that if we don’t have supportive, inclusive ways to talk about disability, then a culture of shame is created. </p> <p><br></p> <p>Language conveys power, but how we use language also creates possibility. How we use language in our day-to-day lives creates the conditions, cultures, and world we want to live in. </p> <p><br></p> <p>If we care about the people in our lives, our families, our communities, who share different identities, and want to be together, then that means uplifting the perspectives of Disabled and Neurodivergent folks and thinking about how to make our spaces inclusive.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Resources that Alicia recommends: </p> <p>, edited by Alice Wong, as well as her </p> <p> The 10 Principles of Disability Justice (as outlined by </p> <p>), and their Disability Justice primer, </p> <p> Emily Ladau’s book,</p> <p><br></p> <p>You can find Alicia at her website: <a href="https://www.aliciaciocca.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.aliciaciocca.com</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>— </p> <p>My music is written and recorded by the Kingston High All Stars in Wellington, New Zealand. </p> <p>My graphics, illustrations, and website are designed and maintained by MaggsyMayCo, in Waterloo, Ontario. </p>
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