About Getting to the Heart - Life, Relationships, Divorce
The Getting to the Heart Podcast, hosted by Michèle Heffron, is a soulful exploration of life, relationships, and the profound impact of divorce. In each episode, Michèle shares her personal journey and engages in heartfelt conversations with inspiring women who have faced and overcome challenges. The podcast aims to create a supportive space for listeners, especially women navigating through or emerging from divorce, as they seek to rediscover their true selves and build lives filled with purpose and fulfillment. With a blend of personal stories, expert insights, and empowering discussions, Getting to the Heart is a beacon for those seeking connection, encouragement, and guidance on their journey towards a more authentic and meaningful life. Subscribe now for a compassionate and insightful exploration of the universal themes that shape our experiences.
The Invisible Divorce: Katie Rössler on How Perimenopause Quietly Reshapes Relationships Before Anyone Notices
Two people. Same roof. Same routines. Completely disconnected. Licensed therapist and relationship strategist Katie Rössler calls it the invisible divorce, and it is far more common than anyone wants to admit.
Katie joins me from Munich, Germany, where she works with couples, leads a community for women navigating perimenopause, and lives the transformation she teaches. Her work did not begin in a classroom. It began inside one of the hardest seasons of her own life, and that lived experience is exactly what makes this conversation worth your time.
We talk about what quietly erodes a long-term relationship, what perimenopause actually does to a marriage, why the anger that surfaces in midlife is rarely about what it appears to be, and what it takes to speak to a partner in a language they can truly hear.
What you will walk away with:
Why the invisible divorce happens gradually, and the moment most couples realize they have drifted into roommate mode
What perimenopause is doing to both partners, and why Katie calls this season an invitation
The difference between "I need more support" and the specific ask that actually lands
What the anger surfacing in midlife is really carrying underneath it
How to know whether your relationship is asking to be rebuilt or whether you already know your answer
Honest, warm, and genuinely useful. This one will stay with you.
22 Mar 2026
Before She Said I Do: Jojy on Arranged Marriage, Divorce, and Calling In Real Love
What happens when a trained therapist walks down the aisle toward a marriage she already knows is wrong? She does it anyway. And she spends years unraveling why.
In this episode of Getting to the Heart: Life, Relationships and Divorce, Michèle sits down with Jojy Vaz, therapist turned career coach and co-host of The Deconstructed Woman podcast, for one of the most honest conversations this show has ever had. Jojy shares the real story behind her arranged marriage, her divorce as a single mother, the family estrangement that followed, and how she eventually found authentic love after walking away from a life built around everyone else's happiness.
By the time this conversation is over, you will have sat with questions that matter:
- Why do women stay in marriages they know are wrong, and what finally creates the shift?
- What is the real cost of building a life around other people's happiness?
- What are we actually modeling to our children when we stay in a loveless marriage?
- How does family pressure fracture relationships during divorce, and is repair possible over time?
- What does reinvention after divorce actually look like when you are starting from the ground up?
- If you are navigating divorce, questioning your marriage, rebuilding your identity after a long-term relationship, or wondering whether real love is still possible for you, this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.
Because sometimes the bravest thing a woman can do is stop performing and start living.
15 Feb 2026
Could It Be Better? Moving from Knowing to Doing with Cher Anderton
What if the key to transforming your relationships isn't about fixing what's broken, but simply asking, "Could it be better?" In this deeply insightful conversation, mental health therapist, author, and self-proclaimed "Resolutionist" Cher Anderton reveals why so many of us struggle to bridge the gap between knowing what we should do and actually doing it, especially when navigating major life transitions like divorce, reinvention, or relationship challenges in midlife.
Cher brings her expertise in trauma-informed practices and social-emotional intelligence to help women understand why we stay stuck even when we've read all the books and listened to all the podcasts. Through her refreshingly grounded and disarming approach, she unpacks the critical competencies we were never formally taught: self-awareness, self-management, responsible decision-making, social awareness, and positive relationship building. This isn't about manifesting your way through hard things or spiritual bypassing. It's about doing the real work of understanding the parts of ourselves that block us from the lives and relationships we truly want.
If you're tired of the same patterns, wondering if change is even possible at this stage of life, or feeling overwhelmed by how much needs to shift, this conversation offers practical tools and gentle wisdom that will help you take your next right step.
In this episode, you'll discover:
How asking "Could it be better?" shifts you from shame into possibility and calms your nervous system
Why understanding the parts of yourself that block your goals is essential for moving from knowing to doing
How social-emotional intelligence is a learnable skill set, not a fixed personality trait
Why tiny shifts pay off massively over time and where to start when change feels overwhelming
The importance of getting back into your body and trusting your internal guidance system rather than seeking external validation
Cher's message is clear: we don't need more information; we need to learn how to distill what we already know and actually implement it. The good stuff happens in the process, not the destination.
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Lori Pappas
Ellen Barron Feldman
Marc Garelick
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