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Green Side Up

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by Jason Lee & Jordan Upcavage

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Welcome to "Green Side Up: Tackling Entrepreneurial Weeds in Landscaping and Tree Care." Join hosts Jason Lee & Jordan Upcavage, a battle-tested landscaper, and a tree whisperer, as they peel back the layers of small business ownership in the green industry. Get ready for raw stories from the trenches, navigating unpredictable weather, managing demanding clients, and conquering the challenges that define entrepreneurial journeys. Whether you're knee-deep in the dirt or just planting your seeds, this podcast is your companion in the uphill climb of entrepreneurial success. Embrace the messy reality, find solace in shared struggles, and glean insights to thrive in the wild terrain of landscaping and tree care business. It's not always a walk in the park, but with "Green Side Up," you'll learn to thrive amid the chaos of entrepreneurship. Let's tackle those weeds together!

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Episode thumbnail for Ep 126. The Permaloc Playbook: From Steel to Aluminum

May 28, 2026

Ep 126. The Permaloc Playbook: From Steel to Aluminum

<p>In this episode of the Green Side Up Podcast, Jason Lee and co-host Jordan Upcavage sit down with Mark Cohen of <a href= "https://permaloc.com/">Permaloc</a> to explore how aluminum edging has reshaped the landscape and hardscape industry. Mark shares the origin story of Permaloc, founded by landscape architect Daniel Zwier as the pioneer of aluminum landscape edging, and explains why aluminum's strength-to-weight ratio, sustainability, and longevity make it a superior alternative to steel and plastic. The conversation digs into spec-driven selling, how educating landscape architects fuels national distribution, and the role of trade shows, ASLA/CSLA partnerships, and student events like Labash and NCLC in influencing the next generation of professionals. Jason and Jordan add real-world contractor perspective—contrasting plastic and concrete edging with aluminum, discussing paver restraint practices in Florida, and talking through evolving applications like resin-bound aggregate and tree ring surfacing. Along the way, Mark highlights iconic projects featuring Permaloc, from the Lady Diana Memorial Fountain to major civic and cultural sites, illustrating how a "niche" product quietly defines and protects some of the most recognizable landscapes in the world.</p> <p>Learn More: <a href= "https://permaloc.com/">https://permaloc.com/</a></p> <p data-start="134" data-end="520"><strong data-start="134" data-end="168">Connect with Jason and Jordan:</strong><br data-start="168" data-end="171" /> 🌐 <a class="" href="https://greensideuppodcast.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="174" data-end="237">Green Side Up Podcast Website</a><br data-start="237" data-end="240" /> 📧 Email: <a class="cursor-pointer" rel="noopener" data-start= "250" data-end= "317">greensideuppodcast@gmail.com</a><br data-start="317" data-end="320" /> 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up<br data-start="348" data-end="351" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/greensideuppodcast/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="354" data-end="435" data-is-only-node= "">@greensideuppodcast on Instagram</a><br data-start="435" data-end="438" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/skyfroglandscape/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="441" data-end="518">@skyfroglandscape on Instagram</a></p> <p data-start="522" data-end="675"><strong data-start="522" data-end="547">Visit Our Businesses:</strong><br data-start="547" data-end="550" /> 🌿 <a class="" href="https://www.skyfroglandscape.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="553" data-end="606">SkyFrog Landscape</a><br data-start="606" data-end="609" /> 🌳 <a class="" href="https://www.indepenttreeservice.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="612" data-end= "675">Independent Tree Service</a></p> <p data-start="677" data-end="874"><strong data-start="677" data-end="701">Save with SingleOps:</strong><br data-start="701" data-end="704" /> 💸 Mention Green Side Up or use this link to get <strong data-start="755" data-end="767">$500 off</strong> your SingleOps subscription:<br data-start="796" data-end="799" /> 👉 <a class="" href= "https://referral.singleops.com/l/JORDANUPCA68/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="802" data-end="874">Get $500 Off SingleOps</a></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015"><strong data-start="876" data-end="900">Sponsors & Partners:</strong></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015">👉 <a class= "decorated-link" href="https://mitogrowpro.com/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="107" data-end="151">MitoGrow 🌱</a><br data-start="900" data-end="903" /> 🎥 <a class="cursor-pointer" href="https://intriguemedia.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="906" data-end= "978">Intrigue Media on Instagram</a> (@imintriguemedia)<br data-start="997" data-end= "1000" /> 📍 <a href="https://gstrackme.com/en/">GS TrackMe</a></p> <p data-start="1017" data-end="1120"><strong data-start="1017" data-end="1041">Podcast Produced by:</strong><br data-start="1041" data-end="1044" /> 🎧 <a class="" href="https://www.instagram.com/mrproducerusa/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="1047" data-end="1103">Mr. Producer</a> (@mrproducerusa)</p>

Episode thumbnail for Ep 125. Family Business to Destination Company: Jeffrey Scott on Building Better Landscape Firms

May 21, 2026

Ep 125. Family Business to Destination Company: Jeffrey Scott on Building Better Landscape Firms

<p>In this episode of the Greenside Up Podcast, Jason and Jordan sit down in Tampa with renowned green-industry consultant Jeffrey Scott to unpack his journey from family pool-and-landscape business to leading coach, peer-group facilitator, and host of The Ultimate Landscape CEO. Jeffrey shares stories from growing up in his grandfather's pioneering gunite pool company, scaling a high-margin service division, and navigating the challenges of a crowded family business before launching his consulting practice. The conversation dives into the power of peer groups, why charging for estimates transformed Jordan's tree service, and how setting higher standards for employees and clients creates a "Destination Company." The trio also explores Lean management in practical, jobsite terms—from tool placement to shop organization—plus real-world challenges around sales slumps, weather, hurricanes, and cash flow, and how business owners can respond with better marketing, business development, and strategic experiments. They wrap with a look at mergers and acquisitions reshaping the landscape industry, the upcoming Summer Growth Summit in Detroit, and Jeffrey's framework for helping owners fix, scale, or exit their companies.</p> <p data-start="0" data-end="44">🌱 <strong data-start="3" data-end= "44">Connect with Jeffrey Scott Consulting</strong></p> <p data-start="46" data-end="80">🌐 Website:<br data-start="57" data-end="60" /> <a class="decorated-link" href="http://www.jeffreyscott.biz" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="60" data-end= "80">www.jeffreyscott.biz</a></p> <p data-start="82" data-end="115">📲 Instagram:<br data-start="95" data-end="98" /> @jeffreymarkscott</p> <p data-start="117" data-end="196">☀️ <strong data-start="120" data-end="144">Summer Growth Summit</strong><br data-start="144" data-end="147" /> <a class="decorated-link" href= "https://jeffreyscott.biz/summer-growth-summit-26/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="147" data-end= "196">https://jeffreyscott.biz/summer-growth-summit-26/</a></p> <p data-start="198" data-end="327" data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">🎟️ <strong data-start="202" data-end= "261">Summer Growth Summit Discount Code / Registration Link:</strong><br data-start="261" data-end="264" /> <a href= "https://www.eventbrite.com/e/1983544708619/?discount=GreenSideUpPodcast"> www.eventbrite.com/e/1983544708619/?discount=GreenSideUpPodcast</a></p> <p data-start="134" data-end="520"><strong data-start="134" data-end="168">Connect with Jason and Jordan:</strong><br data-start="168" data-end="171" /> 🌐 <a class="" href="https://greensideuppodcast.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="174" data-end="237">Green Side Up Podcast Website</a><br data-start="237" data-end="240" /> 📧 Email: <a class="cursor-pointer" rel="noopener" data-start= "250" data-end= "317">greensideuppodcast@gmail.com</a><br data-start="317" data-end="320" /> 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up<br data-start="348" data-end="351" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/greensideuppodcast/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="354" data-end="435" data-is-only-node= "">@greensideuppodcast on Instagram</a><br data-start="435" data-end="438" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/skyfroglandscape/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="441" data-end="518">@skyfroglandscape on Instagram</a></p> <p data-start="522" data-end="675"><strong data-start="522" data-end="547">Visit Our Businesses:</strong><br data-start="547" data-end="550" /> 🌿 <a class="" href="https://www.skyfroglandscape.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="553" data-end="606">SkyFrog Landscape</a><br data-start="606" data-end="609" /> 🌳 <a class="" href="https://www.indepenttreeservice.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="612" data-end= "675">Independent Tree Service</a></p> <p data-start="677" data-end="874"><strong data-start="677" data-end="701">Save with SingleOps:</strong><br data-start="701" data-end="704" /> 💸 Mention Green Side Up or use this link to get <strong data-start="755" data-end="767">$500 off</strong> your SingleOps subscription:<br data-start="796" data-end="799" /> 👉 <a class="" href= "https://referral.singleops.com/l/JORDANUPCA68/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="802" data-end="874">Get $500 Off SingleOps</a></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015"><strong data-start="876" data-end="900">Sponsors & Partners:</strong></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015">👉 <a class= "decorated-link" href="https://mitogrowpro.com/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="107" data-end="151">MitoGrow 🌱</a><br data-start="900" data-end="903" /> 🎥 <a class="cursor-pointer" href="https://intriguemedia.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="906" data-end= "978">Intrigue Media on Instagram</a> (@imintriguemedia)<br data-start="997" data-end= "1000" /> 📍 <a href="https://gstrackme.com/en/">GS TrackMe</a></p> <p data-start="1017" data-end="1120"><strong data-start="1017" data-end="1041">Podcast Produced by:</strong><br data-start="1041" data-end="1044" /> 🎧 <a class="" href="https://www.instagram.com/mrproducerusa/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="1047" data-end="1103">Mr. Producer</a> (@mrproducerusa)</p>

Episode thumbnail for Ep 124. Big Bids, Busy Seasons: Navigating Growth in the Green Industry

May 14, 2026

Ep 124. Big Bids, Busy Seasons: Navigating Growth in the Green Industry

<p>In this episode, Jason and Jordan catch up on a busy season in the landscape business, comparing lead flow, close rates, and what's really driving sales in different markets. They swap stories about big opportunities—including a major 5,600-foot roadway bid in Kissimmee and a high-profile renovation at Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Gainesville—and break down how they think about strategic bidding for profitable commercial work. Along the way, Jordan spotlights his wife's children's book "Looking for Bunny Flies," now available on major platforms, and the two reflect on the challenge of growing a landscape company while staying smart about risk, equipment investment, and market positioning.</p> <p data-start="134" data-end="520"><strong data-start="134" data-end="168">Connect with Jason and Jordan:</strong><br data-start="168" data-end="171" /> 🌐 <a class="" href="https://greensideuppodcast.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="174" data-end="237">Green Side Up Podcast Website</a><br data-start="237" data-end="240" /> 📧 Email: <a class="cursor-pointer" rel="noopener" data-start= "250" data-end= "317">greensideuppodcast@gmail.com</a><br data-start="317" data-end="320" /> 📘 Facebook: Green Side Up<br data-start="348" data-end="351" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/greensideuppodcast/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="354" data-end="435" data-is-only-node= "">@greensideuppodcast on Instagram</a><br data-start="435" data-end="438" /> 📸 <a class="" href= "https://www.instagram.com/skyfroglandscape/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="441" data-end="518">@skyfroglandscape on Instagram</a></p> <p data-start="522" data-end="675"><strong data-start="522" data-end="547">Visit Our Businesses:</strong><br data-start="547" data-end="550" /> 🌿 <a class="" href="https://www.skyfroglandscape.com/" target= "_new" rel="noopener" data-start="553" data-end="606">SkyFrog Landscape</a><br data-start="606" data-end="609" /> 🌳 <a class="" href="https://www.indepenttreeservice.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="612" data-end= "675">Independent Tree Service</a></p> <p data-start="677" data-end="874"><strong data-start="677" data-end="701">Save with SingleOps:</strong><br data-start="701" data-end="704" /> 💸 Mention Green Side Up or use this link to get <strong data-start="755" data-end="767">$500 off</strong> your SingleOps subscription:<br data-start="796" data-end="799" /> 👉 <a class="" href= "https://referral.singleops.com/l/JORDANUPCA68/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="802" data-end="874">Get $500 Off SingleOps</a></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015"><strong data-start="876" data-end="900">Sponsors & Partners:</strong></p> <p data-start="876" data-end="1015">👉 <a class= "decorated-link" href="https://mitogrowpro.com/" target="_new" rel= "noopener" data-start="107" data-end="151">MitoGrow 🌱</a><br data-start="900" data-end="903" /> 🎥 <a class="cursor-pointer" href="https://intriguemedia.com/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="906" data-end= "978">Intrigue Media on Instagram</a> (@imintriguemedia)<br data-start="997" data-end= "1000" /> 📍 <a href="https://gstrackme.com/en/">GS TrackMe</a></p> <p data-start="1017" data-end="1120"><strong data-start="1017" data-end="1041">Podcast Produced by:</strong><br data-start="1041" data-end="1044" /> 🎧 <a class="" href="https://www.instagram.com/mrproducerusa/" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="1047" data-end="1103">Mr. Producer</a> (@mrproducerusa)</p>

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What is Green Side Up?

Welcome to "Green Side Up: Tackling Entrepreneurial Weeds in Landscaping and Tree Care." Join hosts Jason Lee & Jordan Upcavage, a battle-tested landscaper, and a tree whisperer, as they peel back the layers of small business ownership in the green industry.

Get ready for raw stories from the trenches, navigating unpredictable weather, managing demanding clients, and conquering the challenges that define entrepreneurial journeys. Whether you're knee-deep in the dirt or just planting your seeds, this podcast is your companion in the uphill climb of entrepreneurial success.

Embrace the messy reality, find solace in shared struggles, and glean insights to thrive in the wild terrain of landscaping and tree care business. It's not always a walk in the park, but with "Green Side Up," you'll learn to thrive amid the chaos of entrepreneurship. Let's tackle those weeds together!

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This podcast updates daily.

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