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Grit in the Boardroom - Executive Interviews on Corporate Governance and Risk Management

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by Erika Eliasson-Norris

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Do you want to know how leaders confront a corporate scandal and what it really takes to lead under pressure? Grit in the Boardroom is the bi-weekly podcast that pulls back the curtain on boardroom decisions, exploring how high-stakes strategy turns into business resilience in practice. Host Erika Eliasson-Norris – CEO of Beyond Governance, Founder of a multi award-winning consultancy, and Governance Assessor to the UK’s Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry – guides listeners through management case studies, turnaround stories, and candid executive interviews. With nearly 20 years inside the C-suite, Erika highlights the strengths, shortcomings, conflicts, and strategic decision-making that define modern corporate governance. Every episode brings together voices from across leadership: executives, chairs, and directors who have stood on the edge of critical calls, felt the weight of risk, and lived with the outcomes. Expect leadership decisions, director dialogue, and perspectives from across industries where governance and grit collide. Guests include: -Roger Steare, British Ethicist and Corporate Philosopher – on morality and humanity in leadership decisions. -Pav Gill, Founder & CEO of Confide Platform – on navigating the Wirecard whistleblowing corporate scandal. -Emma Parry, Founder & CEO of NovaFin Consulting Ltd – on gender diversity and company culture change in corporate governance. -Professor Sir Andrew Lewis Likierman, London Business School – on mergers, acquisitions, and AI’s impact on board effectiveness and boardroom dialogue. These conversations deliver more than headlines. They provide: -Practical C-suite insights and a behind-the-scenes view of major boardroom decisions. -First-hand accounts of growth under pressure through risk management, resilience, and renewal. -Applicable governance lessons, chair perspectives, and strategies to help you sharpen your own leadership and advance in your organisation. -- About the Host: Erika Eliasson-Norris is a respected voice on board effectiveness and strategic decision-making. She works with boards and leadership teams to transform governance into a strategic advantage. As author of The Secret Diary of a Company Secretary, Erika provides a candid account of life inside the boardroom – a foundation for the honest conversations she now brings to Grit in the Boardroom. -- If you enjoy podcasts like How I Built This with Guy Raz or Worklife with Adam Grant, you’ll find Grit in the Boardroom to be your go-to source for real boardroom decisions, authentic executive interviews, and the unfiltered stories of leaders navigating complexity with grit.

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July 1, 2026

Boardroom Decisions Under Pressure: Chair Perspectives on Governance, Risk and Board Effectiveness

The best boards do not just make decisions. They create the conditions for strategic decision making, stronger challenge, and more effective implementation. In this episode of Grit in the Boardroom, Erika Eliasson-Norris, CEO of Beyond Governance, sits down with Patrick Dunne OBE for one of the sharpest executive interviews with one of the UK’s leading voices on board effectiveness, corporate governance and leadership decisions. Patrick has the real chair perspectives having spent decades working with boards, chairs, CEOs and investors through growth under pressure across listed companies, private equity-backed businesses, charities and public organisations, helping leaders navigate growth, transformation, risk and complexity. [More information on Patrick below.] Together, Erika and Patrick explore the c suite insights about what separates effective boards from ineffective ones, how chairs can create environments where challenge is welcomed, and why the quality of decision-making often matters more than the decision itself. Drawing on his experience working with thousands of directors and board members throughout his career, Patrick shares practical insights into leadership decisions, governance lessons and the boardroom dynamics that shape organisational success. What you'll find in this episode of Grit in the Boardroom: Why the relationship between the Chair and CEO is critical to board effectiveness. How boards can create cultures that encourage challenge, feedback and continuous improvement. Why major boardroom decisions should be approached as a process rather than a single event. The difference between risk appetite and risk tolerance and why boards often confuse the two in risk management. How directors can improve strategic decision making through better preparation and stakeholder engagement. Why implementation failures can be just as damaging as poor leadership decisions. The role of emotional intelligence, listening and constructive challenge in effective leadership. How Next Generation Boards can improve governance, succession planning and organisational insight and business resilience. What CEOs should consider before transitioning into a non-executive director portfolio career. Why board culture and meeting dynamics can have a significant impact on organisational performance. Patrick Dunne OBE is Chair of Board Delta and a recognised authority on board effectiveness, leadership and corporate governance. During more than two decades at 3i Group, he built one of the UK's most influential board development programmes, helping appoint and support thousands of directors across portfolio companies around the world. He has advised organisations across the private, public and third sectors, contributed to major governance reviews, and is the author of Boards, an award-winning guide to board leadership and effectiveness. Patrick is widely respected for his practical approach to governance, leadership development and helping boards perform at their best when the stakes are highest. — Grit in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast where Erika Eliasson-Norris sits down with the best in business for executive interviews. She and her guests explore corporate governance beyond the sealed doors of the C-suite. As Governance Assessor for the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, the largest public inquiry in UK history, Erika Eliasson-Norris is helping shape accountability, governance reform, and corporate oversight across the UK. — Beyond Governance provides on-demand company secretarial support, governance advisory, and governance training to boards, Company Secretaries, and General Counsel. Beyond Governance help organisations strengthen governance, manage risk, and support critical projects without the need for permanent hires. Learn more here: https://beyondgovernance.com/

June 17, 2026

Leadership Under Fire: Values, Belonging and Boardroom Decisions

The real test of leadership is not when everyone agrees with you. It is when your values are challenged, your corporate decision-making skills are scrutinised, and standing by your principles comes at a personal cost. In this episode, Erika Eliasson-Norris, CEO of Beyond Governance, speaks with Professor Tariq Modood MBE, one of Britain's leading thinkers on multiculturalism, identity, citizenship and belonging. This episode is one of those executive interviews that doubles as a masterclass in business resilience: real governance lessons on leading through scrutiny, division and company culture change. For more than three decades, Tariq has shaped national conversations on diversity, inclusion and social cohesion, helping policymakers, institutions and leaders navigate some of society's most complex and often contentious issues. [More information on Tariq below.] Together, Erika and Tariq explore what leadership looks like when navigating competing perspectives, public scrutiny and cultural change. They discuss the role of values in leadership decisions, the importance of dialogue over division, and why organisations must create environments where people feel heard without losing clarity of purpose. What you'll find in this episode of Grit in the Boardroom: Why standing by your values can sometimes come at a personal and professional cost. How leadership decisions are shaped by identity, belonging and lived experience. Why dialogue, persuasion and consensus-building are often more effective than confrontation. The risks of neutrality when leaders and boards face difficult or controversial issues. How organisations can balance diversity of viewpoints while remaining true to their values. Why company culture can act as an early warning system for corporate governance and leadership challenges. How leaders can remain calm, credible and effective under pressure. The impact of social media on public discourse, organisational culture and leadership. Why self-congratulation can create blind spots that limit organisational learning and growth. Professor Tariq Modood MBE is a renowned sociologist, public intellectual and leading authority on multiculturalism, citizenship and national identity. As the founding Director of the Centre for the Study of Ethnicity and Citizenship at the University of Bristol, his work has influenced public policy, academic thinking and national debate for more than thirty years. Drawing on his personal experiences as an immigrant, academic and commentator, Tariq offers a thoughtful perspective on leadership, resilience and the challenges of building inclusive organisations in increasingly complex and polarised environments. His work continues to shape conversations around identity, belonging, governance and social cohesion both in the UK and internationally. — Grit in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast where Erika Eliasson-Norris sits down with the best in business for executive interviews. She and her guests explore corporate governance beyond the sealed doors of the C-suite. As Governance Assessor for the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, the largest public inquiry in UK history, Erika Eliasson-Norris is helping shape accountability, governance reform, and corporate oversight across the UK. — Beyond Governance provides on-demand company secretarial support, governance advisory, and governance training to boards, Company Secretaries, and General Counsel. Beyond Governance help organisations strengthen governance, manage risk, and support critical projects without the need for permanent hires. Learn more here: https://beyondgovernance.com/

June 3, 2026

Governing Through Crisis: Risk Management, Resilience and the Future of Higher Education

Leaders who understand this will be the ones who get it right: governance is not just about oversight; it is about knowing when to challenge, when to intervene, and how to lead when the stakes are human as well as financial. In this episode, Erika Eliasson-Norris, CEO of Beyond Governance, speaks with Professor Sally Wheeler OBE, Vice Chancellor of Birkbeck, University of London. Sally is a distinguished academic and leader in corporate law and governance, with decades of experience navigating transformation, risk and complexity in higher education. [More information on Sally below.] Together, Erika and Sally explore what governance really looks like inside universities: institutions that are centres of learning, major employers, complex businesses, and places where student wellbeing, financial sustainability and public purpose collide. What you'll find in this episode of Grit in the Boardroom: Why governance in higher education demands both challenge and trust. How university boards can manage financial risk, uncertainty and long-term sustainability. Why strong forecasting, risk appetite and board skills are critical to institutional survival. How leadership teams can create safe spaces for challenge without losing momentum. Why student wellbeing has become a central governance issue, not a side concern. What corporate boards can learn from universities about fixed tenure, rotation and renewal. How AI could change board administration, decision tracking and governance effectiveness. Professor Sally Wheeler - Vice-Chancellor of Birkbeck, University of London, a distinguished academic and leading authority on corporate law and governance. Sally has guided major institutions through periods of transformation and challenge, written extensively on company law and governance, and is known for bridging theory with practice. Her leadership spans academia, law, and organisational governance - shaping how universities respond to financial pressures, regulatory complexity, cultural expectations, and questions of long-term sustainability. She brings a candid, grounded perspective on what governance really looks like inside universities. — Grit in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast where Erika Eliasson-Norris sits down with the best in business for executive interviews. She and her guests explore corporate governance beyond the sealed doors of the C-suite. As Governance Assessor for the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, the largest public inquiry in UK history, Erika Eliasson-Norris is helping shape accountability, governance reform, and corporate oversight across the UK. -- Beyond Governance provides on-demand company secretarial support, governance advisory, and governance training to boards, Company Secretaries, and General Counsel. Beyond Governance help organisations strengthen governance, manage risk, and support critical projects without the need for permanent hires. Learn more here: https://beyondgovernance.com/

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What is Grit in the Boardroom - Executive Interviews on Corporate Governance and Risk Management?: Do you want to know how leaders confront a corporate scandal and what it really takes to lead under pressure? Grit in the Boardroom is the bi-weekly podcast that pulls back the curtain on boardroom decisions, exploring how high-stakes strategy turns into business resilience in practice.

Host Erika Eliasson-Norris – CEO of Beyond Governance, Founder of a multi award-winning consultancy, and Governance Assessor to the UK’s Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry – guides listeners through management case studies, turnaround stories, and candid executive interviews. With nearly 20 years inside the C-suite, Erika highlights the strengths, shortcomings, conflicts, and strategic decision-making that define modern corporate governance.

Every episode brings together voices from across leadership: executives, chairs, and directors who have stood on the edge of critical calls, felt the weight of risk, and lived with the outcomes. Expect leadership decisions, director dialogue, and perspectives from across industries where governance and grit collide.

Guests include:

-Roger Steare, British Ethicist and Corporate Philosopher – on morality and humanity in leadership decisions.

-Pav Gill, Founder & CEO of Confide Platform – on navigating the Wirecard whistleblowing corporate scandal.

-Emma Parry, Founder & CEO of NovaFin Consulting Ltd – on gender diversity and company culture change in corporate governance.

-Professor Sir Andrew Lewis Likierman, London Business School – on mergers, acquisitions, and AI’s impact on board effectiveness and boardroom dialogue.

These conversations deliver more than headlines. They provide:

-Practical C-suite insights and a behind-the-scenes view of major boardroom decisions.

-First-hand accounts of growth under pressure through risk management, resilience, and renewal.

-Applicable governance lessons, chair perspectives, and strategies to help you sharpen your own leadership and advance in your organisation.

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About the Host:

Erika Eliasson-Norris is a respected voice on board effectiveness and strategic decision-making. She works with boards and leadership teams to transform governance into a strategic advantage. As author of The Secret Diary of a Company Secretary, Erika provides a candid account of life inside the boardroom – a foundation for the honest conversations she now brings to Grit in the Boardroom.

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If you enjoy podcasts like How I Built This with Guy Raz or Worklife with Adam Grant, you’ll find Grit in the Boardroom to be your go-to source for real boardroom decisions, authentic executive interviews, and the unfiltered stories of leaders navigating complexity with grit.
How often does this podcast release new episodes?: This podcast updates daily.
Where can I listen to this podcast?: This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
Does this podcast accept guests?: Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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