Two guys old enough to know better—but curious enough to keep asking. A former CEO and an undercover poet—from Vienna and New York, two longtime friends share (lightly) decanted reflections on life, work, and everything in between. Guys Like Us — home of champagne problems and existential questions.
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We like to think we're the open-minded ones, right up until a 22-year-old shows us in two minutes what took us an hour. Paul admits this topic made him uncomfortable because he's not sure which side of the age line he's on anymore. Honestly, same.
Marc's pitch is to pair seasoned executives with young AI natives and share the accountability. Paul pushes back hard, and it gets spirited. We also talk about a 53-year-old who lost his job and just wants meaningful work, the prejudices we've both had to unlearn, and why Paul would absolutely cancel his plans for three weeks to out-learn his young partner.
Plus: a $600 bottle of Opus One, a Tesla with rockets, and a very good friend's sense of humor in the middle of chemo.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
01:25 Terminator and Idiot of the Week
06:06 Intergenerational Leadership: A New Perspective
18:50 Navigating Generational Dynamics in Leadership
21:27 The Role of Shared Accountability
24:32 The Impact of AI on Workforce Dynamics
26:50 Intergenerational Leadership: A New Paradigm
31:41 Communication Styles Across Generations
35:26 Connecting the Dots: AI and Human Collaboration
| Ep 62
13 Oct 2026
Great Is Not a Feeling | Ep 61
We love to think we can analyze our way to the right answer — but what if your body already knows and you're just not listening?
This week we dig into gut feeling: when it saves you months of overthinking, when it leads you straight into disaster, and how to tell the difference between instinct and just being excited or horny. Paul shares how his gut told him to fire someone twelve months before he actually did it, while Marc admits his gut has spectacularly failed him in love and career moves. We cover Jeff Bezos' one-way door framework, why hiring decisions feel impossible, and the Lego plate constellation that finally convinced Paul to get a dog.
The real question isn't whether to trust your gut — it's whether you can actually feel what your body is telling you in the first place. Paul reveals how a coach taught him the vocabulary to describe bodily feelings beyond "great" or "fine," and why connecting to your body might be the only way to stay present when life gets overwhelming.
0:00 Introduction
0:05 Terminator and Idiot of the Week
6:12 The Role of Gut Feeling in Decision Making
12:09 Gut Instincts vs. Rational Thinking: A Personal Journey
18:04 The Balance of Gut and Brain in Leadership
18:08 The Power of Gut Feelings
21:13 Balancing Gut and Rational Decision-Making
23:55 Navigating Complex Decisions
26:53 The Role of Relationships in Decision-Making
30:02 Connecting with Your Body and Emotions
32:59 Lessons Learned and Moving Forward
| Ep 61
6 Oct 2026
Couples Therapy for Co-Hosts | Ep 60
We love to romanticize the idea of building something with your best friend — instant trust, shared vision, no awkward getting-to-know-you phase. But the reality? It's a minefield.
This week, we sit down to talk about what actually works when you start a business with friends, and more importantly, what doesn't. Marc shares the story of his failed custom suit venture with a party friend (spoiler: two dreamers, zero execution), and Paul reflects on the partnership in his late 30s that actually thrived — complementary skills, brutal honesty, and annual therapy walks in the woods.
We also get uncomfortably transparent about our own working relationship: Marc's chronic lateness, Paul's need to be charmed out of his annoyance every recording, and the fact that we both answered "fuck no" when asked if we'd ever work for the other. The takeaway? Friendship and business are two separate things, and the hygiene around keeping them distinct is what makes or breaks the partnership.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
3:55 The Idiot of the Week
6:57 Starting a Business with Friends
9:27 Lessons from Failed Ventures
12:11 Building Successful Partnerships
15:48 Therapeutic Reflections on Collaboration
18:26 Navigating Annoyances and Appreciations
21:08 The Dynamics of Working with Friends
23:34 Investing in Friendships and Business
25:31 The Complexity of Hiring Friends
30:02 Maintaining Professional Boundaries
33:14 The Importance of Clarity and Hygiene in Relationships
| Ep 60
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