I Am Interchange immerses you in the world of adventure journalism, where we fearlessly explore the monumental global changes, inequalities, and urgent issues surrounding the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Through raw, unfiltered storytelling, we dive into the tension within these goals and share the stories from the front lines of systems change.

I Am Interchange
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I Am Interchange immerses you in the world of adventure journalism, where we fearlessly explore the monumental global changes, inequalities, and urgent issues surrounding the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Through raw, unfiltered storytelling, we dive into the tension within these goals and share the stories from the front lines of systems change.
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June 7, 2026
Open Source Society
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">There's a word that keeps coming up when you talk to people who build software for a living. The word is fork.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">To fork something means you take an existing codebase — someone else's rules — and you branch off. You make your own version. You run it your own way. And nobody can stop you.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">We're at Frontier Tower in San Francisco. At the Next Democracy Summit.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Ruzgar Imski is a Playnet contributor exploring organizations as games and games as organizations. How might we play organizations into existence? And in so doing overcome the division between game designers and game players, rule-makers and rule-abiders, between legislators and citizens.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Kate Lee builds systems too. What if you forked a city ordinance? What if you forked a federal statute? If code is law, put it in a repository, let people propose changes. Real changes. Actual line edits, submitted by anyone, reviewed in public, merged or rejected with a record of why. And underneath all of that is a harder question she keeps returning to — who owns your identity. Not your passport. Your digital twin. The version of you accumulating in systems you've never seen, built from searches and purchases and patterns and memories you didn't consciously hand over. AI is storing that now. Learning from it. And the person it knows best might be you — but you have no access to what it remembers. No access to your own externalized memory.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Tate Chamberlin put them in a room together. Two people who build systems and still want to talk about what those systems are actually doing to governance, to identity, to the idea of sovereignty in a world where code writes code and AI inherits the keys.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">The game has been running for a while now. Someone designed it. It's up to us to change it.</span> <span class="s1">Today, Ruzgar, Kate and I are on a quest to open-source society and democracy.</span></p>

May 5, 2026
Notes from the Earth
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">There's a moment. A specific moment when someone decides to stop waiting for permission.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Maybe it's quiet. Maybe nobody's watching. But something shifts — and the path they were supposed to take starts to look a lot less interesting than the one they're about to make up entirely.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Today, we're talking to two people who made that choice — in completely different directions, for completely different reasons, with the same kind of unshakeable commitment.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Benjamin Von Wong is an environmental activist and visual artist whose work is almost impossible to look away from. Giant, haunting installations built from plastic waste. Images that don't let you off the hook. His activism isn't about him — it never has been. It's about fighting for something so much larger than any one person that the work almost demands you forget who made it. He's trying to change systems. Actual systems. And he's using beauty to do it.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">BLKBOK is a neoclassical pianist selling out concert halls and collaborating with some of the biggest names in music. Here's the thing though. Nobody taught him how to do any of it. No conservatory. No formal training. No one handing him a roadmap to the rooms he now walks into like he belongs there — because he does. He figured it out. All of it. And that self-taught, street-smart, stubbornly specific version of himself is exactly the thing that got him there. Choosing classical music when the world had a very different game in mind for him.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Two artists. Two completely different relationships to the word change. One fighting for the planet. One rewriting who gets to sit at the piano. And somehow, both asking the same question underneath it all — how do we show up and actually influence anything? Do we do it because someone is looking? Or do we do it anyway?</span></p>

March 31, 2026
The Amazon is Breathing
<p class="p1"><span class="s1">Here's the thing about the Amazon basin. There's a number scientists use when they talk about it — the number of species living there that we haven't discovered yet. And here's what's strange about that number: we don't know what it is. We can't know what it is. We only know it's enormous. That somewhere in that forest right now, there are creatures going about their lives, doing whatever it is they do — and not a single human being on earth knows their name.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Think about that for a second.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">We are losing something we have never even met.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">The Amazon produces its own weather. It talks to the ocean. Indigenous peoples have lived inside it, and with it, for thousands of years — and they will tell you, if you ask them, that the forest is worth more standing than cut. That it is not a resource waiting to be used. That it is the resource. That it is the economy — if only we could learn to see it that way.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">We think we know the Amazon. We've seen the pictures. We've heard the statistics. But we don't know it. Not really.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Today on the show — what happens when a forest reaches a tipping point. What wildlife monitoring and illegal human activity in one of the most remote places on earth are actually telling us. And what a shift toward a bio-economy might mean for the future of a place that is, in some ways, the future of everything.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">I'm Tate Chamberlin. My guests today are Indrani Pal-Chaudhuri and Paola de Almeida.</span></p> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Stay with us.</span></p>
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