If Not Now, When explores the courage, mindset, and emotional realities behind building modern consumer brands. Hosted by Candice Tang, co-founder of Freckl, a fulfilment and logistics partner supporting growing consumer brands, the podcast features honest conversations with founders navigating the highs, doubts, and defining moments of entrepreneurship. Each episode reflects on both the inner journey of building something meaningful and the practical realities of scaling a brand — from early ideas and marketing to operations, inventory, systems, and growth.
If not now, when?
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If Not Now, When explores the courage, mindset, and emotional realities behind building modern consumer brands. Hosted by Candice Tang, co-founder of Freckl, a fulfilment and logistics partner supporting growing consumer brands, the podcast features honest conversations with founders navigating the highs, doubts, and defining moments of entrepreneurship. Each episode reflects on both the inner journey of building something meaningful and the practical realities of scaling a brand — from early ideas and marketing to operations, inventory, systems, and growth.
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June 3, 2026
We Patented the Wrong Design and Had to Give Our First Production Away For Free: Tim Bligh from Ever Vessel on What He'd Do Differently
<p>What does it actually take to walk into a factory in China — one supplying billion-dollar brands — and convince them to manufacture your product when you're a nobody with no sales history and no track record? Tim from Ever Vessel did exactly that. But getting in the door was only the beginning.</p><p>In this episode, Tim unpacks the manufacturing lessons that took him three years and a full first production run he couldn't sell to learn. He thought he had a great design. The factory couldn't reliably make it. He'd already started the patent process. The money was already spent.</p><p>We get into:</p><ul><li>Why the factory that supplies billion-dollar household brands agreed to work with a tiny Australian startup</li><li>What DFM (Design for Manufacture) means, why it matters, and what happens when you skip it</li><li>The design patent mistake: patenting a product before it was finalized — and why Tim says he'd think hard before going down that path again</li><li>Why your tooling costs might be a better moat than a patent</li><li>The trade-off between small factories (more attention, less scale) vs. large factories (more capability, you're a low priority)</li><li>Why Tim still flies to China to do QC checks himself — even now</li></ul><p>Tim also shares how Ever Vessel grew a customer base and moves serious volume with just 3,000 Instagram followers, his unconventional approach to Facebook ads, and what he learned using Kickstarter as a marketing channel rather than a funding tool.</p><p>If you're thinking about manufacturing your own product, this episode is required listening.</p><p>🎙️ <strong>About the Guest</strong></p><p>Tim Bligh is the founder of <a href="https://evervessel.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Ever Vessel</a> , a premium stainless steel water bottle brand focused on simplicity, durability, and ease of cleaning. After 10 years in the Australian Army, Tim and his wife Bec built Ever Vessel from the ground up — navigating custom manufacturing in China, design patents, and growing a loyal customer base without a large social media following.</p><p>🎙️ <strong>About the Host</strong></p><p>Candice Tang is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/">Freckl </a>— a boutique fulfilment and logistics partner for fashion and beauty brands.</p><p>After experiencing firsthand the frustrations of working with traditional 3PLs — from lost inventory to inconsistent packing and hidden costs — Candice and her team built Freckl to do things differently.</p><p>Today, Freckl partners with growing fashion and beauty brands to deliver a more considered post-purchase experience — from premium packing and returns handling to scalable fulfilment operations across DTC and wholesale.</p><p>Working closely with brands at different stages of growth, Candice has a unique lens into what actually happens behind the scenes — the operational bottlenecks, scaling challenges, and decisions founders face as they grow.</p><p>If you're a fashion or beauty founder navigating growth and want to sense-check your fulfilment, operations, or scaling strategy — feel free to reach out or learn more about Freckl:<a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/">https://www.freckl.com.au/</a></p><p></p>
May 5, 2026
From Pastry Chef to VC-Backed Fashion Tech Founder | How Shanya Suppasiritad Built Revibe
<p>In this episode of If Not Now, When, Candice sits down with Shanya Suppasiritad, founder of Revibe—a VC-backed fashion tech platform now working with leading brands like <strong>Oroton</strong>, <strong>Assembly Label</strong>, and <strong>THE ICONIC</strong>.</p><p>After raising investment from exceptional founders including <strong>Christy Chong</strong>—who sold her business <strong>Modibodi</strong> for $140M—Shanya is building one of the most exciting startups at the intersection of fashion and circular commerce.</p><p>But her journey didn’t start in tech—or even in fashion.</p><p>From making 500 scones a day as a pastry chef to becoming a stylist, Shanya’s turning point came after watching The True Cost, when she realised the industry she loved was also deeply flawed. That moment sparked a mission: to build a better way for people to access fashion—without contributing to the problem.</p><p>In this episode, she shares the messy early days—testing ideas on Facebook groups, teaching herself just enough code to build an MVP, running operations out of her one-bedroom apartment, and making the tough call to pivot even after gaining traction.</p><p>She also opens up about raising capital with no prior experience, the pressure that comes with investor money, imposter syndrome, burnout, and why—if she started again today—she would bootstrap first.</p><p>This is a raw, honest conversation about what it really takes to build something from scratch—and the courage to start before you feel ready.</p><p>💡 What You'll Learn in This Episode</p><ul><li>Why she shut down an idea with 4,000 users</li><li>From pastry chef → stylist → VC-backed founder</li><li>The moment that changed her view on fashion</li><li>Building and validating without tech</li><li>What investors actually look for early on</li><li>Bootstrapping vs raising capital (the reality)</li><li>Founder anxiety, burnout & imposter syndrome</li></ul><p>🎙️ About the Guest</p><p>Shanya Suppasiritad is the founder of <a href="https://www.revibecollective.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Revibe</a>, a fashion tech platform helping brands unlock new revenue through rental and circular commerce.</p><p>Her clients include leading retailers like Oroton, Assembly Label, and THE ICONIC.</p><p>She has raised capital from experienced founders and operators, including Christy Chong, and is building toward a future where circular fashion becomes the norm.</p><p>🎙️ About the Host</p><p>Candice Tang is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Freckl </a>— a boutique fulfilment and logistics partner for fashion and beauty brands.</p><p>After experiencing firsthand the frustrations of working with traditional 3PLs — from lost inventory to inconsistent packing and hidden costs — Candice and her team built Freckl to do things differently.</p><p>Today, Freckl partners with growing fashion and beauty brands to deliver a more considered post-purchase experience — from premium packing and returns handling to scalable fulfilment operations across DTC and wholesale.</p><p>Working closely with brands at different stages of growth, Candice has a unique lens into what actually happens behind the scenes — the operational bottlenecks, scaling challenges, and decisions founders face as they grow.</p><p>If you're a fashion or beauty founder navigating growth and want to sense-check your fulfilment, operations, or scaling strategy — feel free to reach out or learn more about Freckl: </p><p><a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.freckl.com.au/</a></p>
April 23, 2026
Part 2: How Jenny Nakkan Scaled an International Wholesale Business from 500K to 40 Millions and Started Over in Her 40s | Elevate Wholesale Ageny
<p>From managing key accounts at Nike and Sony to leading global wholesale at some of Australia's most recognised fashion brands — Jenny Nakkan has spent over two decades building an encyclopaedic knowledge of what it actually takes to scale a brand through wholesale.</p><p>In this episode of If Not Now, When, I sit down with Jenny — founder of Elevate, a wholesale consultancy for fashion and lifestyle brands — to unpack the strategy behind scaling an international wholesale business from $500K to $40 million, why she walked away from a high-paying senior career to start her own business in her forties, and what most founders completely get wrong before they even walk into their first buyer meeting.</p><p>This one is essential listening if you're a fashion or beauty brand thinking about wholesale — or if you've ever wondered whether it's too late to start.</p><p>💡 <strong>What You'll Learn in This Episode</strong></p><ul><li>Why wholesale is brand amplification — not just a lower-margin sales channel</li><li>The two biggest mistakes DTC brands make when they enter wholesale (pricing and timelines)</li><li>How to pitch to buyers before you have sell-through data — and what actually makes them say yes</li><li>The FOMO strategy that took a brand with serious reputational damage from $500K to $40M in global wholesale</li><li>Why saying no to the wrong retailers is one of the most powerful things a brand can do</li><li>How to drive sell-through at full price — without defaulting to discounting</li><li>What buyers actually want to know about your logistics and supply chain before placing an order</li><li>The mindset behind starting a business in your forties — and why Jenny believes the fear of not doing it outweighed the fear of failing</li></ul><p>🚀 <strong>Key Takeaway</strong></p><p>Wholesale success isn't about getting the order — it's about what happens after. Sell-through is the language of the buyer, the metric that determines whether you grow or get cut, and the foundation every brand needs to obsess over before they scale.</p><p>If you're sitting on the fence about wholesale — or wondering if it's too late to back yourself and start — Jenny's story is the permission you've been waiting for.</p><p>🎙️ <strong>About the Guest</strong></p><p>Jenny Nakkan is the founder of <a href="https://www.elevatewholesaleagency.com.au/">Elevate Wholesale Agency</a>, a wholesale consultancy that helps fashion and lifestyle brands build the foundations they need to scale — from pricing and margins to global market entry and sales agency relationships. With senior roles at Nike, Sony Pictures, Rachel Gilbert, Camilla, and Subtitled, Jenny brings over 20 years of global wholesale expertise to the brands she works with. She is also the founder behind bringing the Splash Sydney trade show to the Australian market.</p><p>Follow Jenny on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/elevatewholesaleagency/"><strong>@elevatewholesaleagency</strong></a></p><p>🎙️ <strong>About the Host</strong></p><p>Candice Tang is the co-founder of <a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/">Freckl</a> — a boutique fulfilment and logistics partner for fashion and beauty brands.</p><p>After experiencing firsthand the frustrations of working with traditional 3PLs — from lost inventory to inconsistent packing and hidden costs — Candice and her team built Freckl to do things differently.</p><p>Today, Freckl partners with growing fashion and beauty brands to deliver a more considered post-purchase experience — from premium packing and returns handling to scalable fulfilment operations across DTC and wholesale.</p><p>Working closely with brands at different stages of growth, Candice has a unique lens into what actually happens behind the scenes — the operational bottlenecks, scaling challenges, and decisions founders face as they grow.</p><p>If you're a fashion or beauty founder navigating growth and want to sense-check your fulfilment, operations, or scaling strategy — feel free to reach out or learn more about Freckl: <a href="https://www.freckl.com.au/">https://www.freckl.com.au/</a></p>
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