
In Between Them
Claim This Podcastby Shannon Darrow
Podcast Overview
<p>Divorce shapes childhood in ways parents often can't see—especially when they're in the middle of an emotional fog, fear, or in survival mode. <i>In Between Them</i> is a <b>parenting podcast</b> that brings forward the voices we rarely hear: the <b>children of divorce</b>, now grown, reflecting on the experiences that shaped them.</p><p></p><p>Hosted by an entrepreneur and mother who navigated her own divorce with a newborn, this <b>family dynamics podcast</b> offers personal understanding and professional insight in every conversation. Raised in a traditional nuclear family but later thrust into a <b>co-parenting</b> reality, the host believes every story matters—because children don't choose divorce, yet they feel its ripples the most.</p><p></p><p>Each episode features honest, vulnerable <b>storytelling</b> from people who lived through their parents' divorce. Some stories are painful. Some are healing and inspiring. All of them reveal what truly impacts a child when a family changes—and what helps them thrive.</p><p></p><p>Unlike most <b>parenting podcasts</b> focused on legal advice or therapy perspectives, this show centers the lived experience of the children themselves, providing clarity for parents who want to make better, more thoughtful, child-centered decisions.</p><p></p><p>Whether you're a parent, professional, or someone who lived it yourself, you'll find wisdom, compassion, and guidance in these conversations. Because understanding the child's perspective might just be the key to doing divorce better.</p><p></p><p>If you or someone you know is contemplating divorce, or in the midst of it, these stories can change a child's life forever.</p><p></p><p>To contribute your own story, please contact <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:sdarrow@onward-mc.com" target="_blank">sdarrow@onward-mc.com</a> directly.</p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly.</p>
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July 13, 2026
28. Cat - 14 years old - Divorce Did Not End the Pain - Everything Changed Shape - New Pain Emerged
<p>Cat was 14 when years of volatility in her home finally came to a head — not because her parents chose it, but because her school finally made it real. The staff had been watching Cat, and they were seeing behaviors concerning enough to reach out to her mother. That call was the catalyst. Her mom got out. And Cat's own memory is that her mom had been trying, for as long as Cat could remember, to find a way.</p><p></p><p>Leaving wasn't the end of the instability. In many ways, the divorce created a different kind of pain. Cat navigated rejection from her father. She lost a brother. Both parents continued to stir the pot of conflict from opposite sides, for years. The despair didn't end when the marriage did. Some measure of peace came only after her father passed, when Cat discovered a few items he had left behind — small proof of something she had needed for a very long time. But life with him in it was always hard.</p><p></p><p>What Cat took from all of it is what makes this episode as inspiring as it is difficult to hear: she learned how to raise her own son differently, how to do better in the very places her own parents couldn't. Her story is hard in moments and remarkable in the ways she conquered it for herself and her healing.</p><blockquote><p><i>"What hurts the most isn't the separation — it's the shouting, the blame, the cold shoulders... What heals is choosing to protect your child's heart more than your ego."</i> — Dr. Daniela Tempesta</p></blockquote><p><b>Cat's book recommendation:</b> <i>Embrace Abundance</i></p><p></p><p><b>About Cat:</b> Cat York is the host of the <i>Recovery Catalyst Podcast</i>, a space dedicated to honest conversations about addiction, recovery, and the path to healing. As a mom and storyteller, Cat strives to shine a light on these challenging topics with a focus on curiosity rather than a quick cure, fostering a deeper sense of connection and understanding.</p><p></p><p><b>Find Cat:</b></p><ul><li>Linktree (all links): <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://linktr.ee/RecoveryCatalystPodcast" target="_blank">linktr.ee/RecoveryCatalystPodcast</a></li><li>Instagram & Threads: @recovery_catalyst_podcast<p></p></li></ul><hr /><p></p><p><i>In Between Them</i> is a podcast about what it really feels like to grow up between two homes — hosted by Shannon Darrow, divorce coach, mediator, and adult child of divorce, featuring honest conversations with people about what their parents' divorce shaped, broke, and built in them.</p><p></p><p><b>Have a question, a story to share, or interested in being a guest?</b> Reach Shannon directly at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:sdarrow@onward-mc.com" target="_blank"><b>sdarrow@onward-mc.com</b></a>.</p><p></p><p>Follow the show on Instagram <b>@inbetweenthempod</b>, and if this episode resonated, please rate and review <i>In Between Them</i> on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it's the single most helpful thing you can do to help other adult children of divorce find the show.</p>

July 6, 2026
27. James - 3 Years Old - Dad Got Custody. Mom Got 35 Days. The Men Were the Heroes
<p>James was three when his parents divorced. In an arrangement that flipped custody conventions of the time, his dad was awarded primary custody — because between his father and his grandparents, that side of the family offered the more stable home. His mom got 35 days a year. All of it was difficult, but Dad was the anchor.</p><p></p><p>James walks us through what he calls the "hostage exchange" — the emotionally loaded handoffs when parenting time switched. His stepfather added some calm to the chaos, but the underlying relationship with his mother was volatile, and it stayed that way. Throughout his childhood, the men in his life — his dad, his grandfather, his stepfather — were the heroes. School years were unsettled: he never quite fit in, always missing enough time with friends to build the bonds other kids took for granted. When he was finally old enough to drive, the ability to <i>choose</i> where he was going brought a kind of comfort he hadn't felt before.</p><p></p><p>Now, James channels all of it into purpose. He talks about the breakdown he sees when very masculine men are pushed out of custody conversations by outdated gender assumptions, and the concept of <i>parental capacity</i> — the idea that if you know what you're good at as a parent, you should parent from there, instead of pretending to be something you're not. And he shares an insight most guests don't touch: how children of divorce, when they're consistently exposed to parental conflict, can drift into suicidal ideation — and how much it matters to name that out loud, early and often. Through <i>Lomender's Lodge</i>, James has become exactly what his own tagline says: the man he needed, when he needed one.</p><p></p><p><b>About James:</b> James "Lomender" Wiley is the creator and host of <i>Lomender's Lodge</i>, where he explores masculinity and relationship dynamics through honest conversations and stories of personal growth — both his own and his guests'. His mission is to "be the man you needed when you needed one," offering a positive, authentic voice for men and boys of all ages and backgrounds seeking guidance in today's complex world.</p><p></p><p><b>Find James:</b></p><ul><li>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://lonewolfspeaking.wordpress.com" target="_blank">lonewolfspeaking.wordpress.com</a></li><li>Instagram: @lonewolf902</li><li>YouTube: @LomendersLodge</li><li>Threads: @lonewolf902<p></p></li></ul><p><b>A note on this episode:</b> This conversation touches briefly on suicidal ideation as it relates to children exposed to ongoing parental conflict. If you or someone you love is struggling, please reach out — in the U.S., you can call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, 24/7.</p><p></p><hr /><p></p><p><i>In Between Them</i> is a podcast about what it really feels like to grow up between two homes — hosted by Shannon Darrow, divorce coach, mediator, and adult child of divorce, featuring honest conversations with people about what their parents' divorce shaped, broke, and built in them.</p><p></p><p><b>Have a question, a story to share, or interested in being a guest?</b> Reach Shannon directly at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:sdarrow@onward-mc.com" target="_blank"><b>sdarrow@onward-mc.com</b></a>.</p><p></p><p>Follow the show on Instagram <b>@inbetweenthempod</b>, and if this episode resonated, please rate and review <i>In Between Them</i> on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it's the single most helpful thing you can do to help other adult children of divorce find the show.</p>

June 29, 2026
26. Heather - Toddler - Only Child, 2-2-3 Schedule. Friendly Co-Parents. But Wounds That Still Came.
<p>Heather was an only child whose parents divorced when she was very young — too young to remember the before, with no real memories until the age of awareness, when she began to realize she lived differently from her friends. What sets her story apart on In Between Them is what came next: she successfully navigated a 2-2-3 schedule for her entire childhood. Why it worked is the part most adult children of divorce never get to experience. Her parents were friendly. They accepted each other. Her father's extended family welcomed her mother. Much of her childhood was done together, even when technically it wasn't as a family. There were still ups and downs — nothing is perfect — but her parents did this well.</p><p></p><p>Heather connects clear dots between that childhood and the adult patterns she's spent years untangling: people-pleasing, abandonment fears, the low-key vigilance that comes from constant transitions, even amicable ones. Hers is the story that proves something important: even when divorce is done well, it still breeds insecurities and difficulties that go beyond the normal stuff of childhood. Being an only child layered on top of it — beautiful in many ways, lonely in others. Both can be true.</p><p></p><p>That lived experience is exactly what shaped Heather into the toxic-relationships coach she is today. She sees the clear thread from her parents' two homes to the women she now helps reclaim their self-worth and build emotionally healthy relationships. The joy and lightness she brings to this conversation is a testament to both the foundation her parents built and the deep self-reflection she's done on her own.</p><p></p><p><b>Heather's book recommendations: </b>Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach and The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera.</p><p></p><p><b>About Heather:</b> Heather Melville is a relationship coach, speaker, and founder of Healthy Relationships, where she helps women heal from toxic relationship patterns and reclaim self-worth so they can create emotionally healthy relationships. Known for her lighthearted, engaging, and refreshingly honest speaking style, she blends humor, storytelling, and practical psychology to make deep emotional topics approachable and actionable.</p><p></p><p>Find Heather: </p><p>Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://healthyrelationships.info" target="_blank">healthyrelationships.info</a> </p><p>Instagram: @<a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://healthyrelationships.coach" target="_blank">healthyrelationships.coach</a> </p><p>Facebook: Healthy Relationships Coaching </p><p>LinkedIn: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://linkedin.com/in/heathermelville756" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/heathermelville756</a> </p><p>Email: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:healthy.relationships.coaching@gmail.com" target="_blank">healthy.relationships.coaching@gmail.com</a></p><p></p><p>In Between Them is a podcast about what it really feels like to grow up between two homes — hosted by Shannon Darrow, divorce coach, mediator, and adult child of divorce, featuring honest conversations with people about what their parents' divorce shaped, broke, and built in them.</p><p></p><p><b>Have a question, a story to share, or interested in being a guest? </b>Reach Shannon directly at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:sdarrow@onward-mc.com" target="_blank">sdarrow@onward-mc.com</a>.</p><p></p><p><b>Follow the show on Instagram @inbetweenthempod, </b>and if this episode resonated, please rate and review In Between Them on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — it's the single most helpful thing you can do to help other adult children of divorce find the show.</p>
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- What is In Between Them?
<p>Divorce shapes childhood in ways parents often can't see—especially when they're in the middle of an emotional fog, fear, or in survival mode. <i>In Between Them</i> is a <b>parenting podcast</b> that brings forward the voices we rarely hear: the <b>children of divorce</b>, now grown, reflecting on the experiences that shaped them.</p><p></p><p>Hosted by an entrepreneur and mother who navigated her own divorce with a newborn, this <b>family dynamics podcast</b> offers personal understanding and professional insight in every conversation. Raised in a traditional nuclear family but later thrust into a <b>co-parenting</b> reality, the host believes every story matters—because children don't choose divorce, yet they feel its ripples the most.</p><p></p><p>Each episode features honest, vulnerable <b>storytelling</b> from people who lived through their parents' divorce. Some stories are painful. Some are healing and inspiring. All of them reveal what truly impacts a child when a family changes—and what helps them thrive.</p><p></p><p>Unlike most <b>parenting podcasts</b> focused on legal advice or therapy perspectives, this show centers the lived experience of the children themselves, providing clarity for parents who want to make better, more thoughtful, child-centered decisions.</p><p></p><p>Whether you're a parent, professional, or someone who lived it yourself, you'll find wisdom, compassion, and guidance in these conversations. Because understanding the child's perspective might just be the key to doing divorce better.</p><p></p><p>If you or someone you know is contemplating divorce, or in the midst of it, these stories can change a child's life forever.</p><p></p><p>To contribute your own story, please contact <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:sdarrow@onward-mc.com" target="_blank">sdarrow@onward-mc.com</a> directly.</p><p></p><p>New episodes weekly.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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