In Conversation With

About In Conversation With

A series of shortcasts from the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) about their leading non-profit work tackling online child sexual abuse. Our series of short podcasts feature discussions with leading experts and academics covering a wide variety of topics including tech, encryption, policy and how these impact the criminal circulation of child sexual imagery online. Find out more at iwf.org.uk

Publisher

Internet Watch Foundation (IWF)

Category

true crime

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

29 Jul 2022

Latest episode

16 Feb 2024

Latest episodes

9 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   16 Feb 2024

   9. How online predators use privacy apps

   The future we want for the internet? Child sexual abuse, offenders, and the apps they use to avoid detection. New research shows online offenders are choosing end-to-end encrypted messaging apps to contact children and to spread child sexual abuse material amid renewed calls for Meta to rethink its planned roll out of end-to-end encryption on Facebook Messsenger. This new episode from the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) focuses on new research from Finnish child protection agency Suojellaan Lapsia which shows how offenders operate and the methods they use. In conversation with Tegan Insoll, Head of Research at Suojellaan Lapsia, and Dan Sexton, Chief Technology Officer at the IWF. Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

2. 

   11 Jan 2024

   8. Too Close for comfort: Understanding 'self-generated' child sexual abuse material

   The increase in self-generated child sexual abuse content is alarming. In 2022, more than three quarters (78%) of the webpages IWF identified as containing child sexual abuse material were tech-enabled, ie created via smartphones or webcams without the offender being physically present in the room with the child. As we release the Talk Trust Empower report (https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iwf.org.uk%2Fabout-us%2Fwhy-we-exist%2Four-research%2Ftalk-trust-empower%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cangela%40iwf.org.uk%7C731d1a3f5974464217a108dc11f780ef%7C276b2b1d5f8c4337a337814fac01d2de%7C0%7C0%7C638405001915043877%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C4R0n5eQrdPkE09x%2BJbr4Xx2t78c6AtWGIATpPy7Rhc%3D&reserved=0), this episode delves into how children – many of them of primary school age – are groomed and extorted into producing self-generated imagery, how the IWF is working to raising awareness of the phenomenon and what can be done by parents and carers to help children navigate dangers online. Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

3. 

   5 Dec 2023

   7. AI – the power to harm and to help

   In Conversation With Thorn’s Head of Data Science Rebecca Portnoff and IWF Chief Technology Officer Dan Sexton. This episode explores what needs to be done to try and control the explosion in harmful AI-generated child abuse imagery and how other AI or machine-learning tools could be used to counter the phenomenon. Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

4. 

   19 Sept 2023

   6. What next for online safety laws?

   As the Online Safety Bill becomes the Online Safety Act, the Internet Watch Foundation looks at what is next. In this podcast, children’s online safety expert Natalia Greene and IWF Head of Policy and Public Affairs Mike Tunks explain this landmark piece of legislation and the effect it may have on all our lives. Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

5. 

   7 Jun 2023

   5. Nowhere to Hide?

   Nowhere to Hide is part of the IWF’s In Conversation With series exploring the technological and political issues surrounding the global spread of child sexual abuse material. This episode looks at how end-to-end encryption goes further than standard encryption, meaning even the service providers themselves can’t see what has been shared between two users. It means that service providers who deploy end-to-end encryption on their platforms and messaging services are actively disabling their ability to detect child sexual abuse imagery. That is, unless they deploy additional safeguards. Speaking on the podcast, Dan Sexton, Chief Technical Officer at the IWF, said: “It is very concerning for the IWF. Our mission, our vision, is a safer internet for all, and that the internet is free of child sexual abuse material. “A big part of how we achieve that mission is providing data on known images and videos to industry so they can detect and block that content, prevent it from being uploaded, saved, shared, distributed and, right now, no one is doing that in end-to-end encrypted messaging services. And that is deeply concerning for us.” He added: “When a child reports content of themselves to us, we want to be able to say to those children, to those victims, that their content will be found, and it will be blocked across the internet. Right now, we can’t do that with end-to-end encrypted services. That is very concerning for us, and very concerning for those children.” Mr Sexton, however, said it is possible for safety solutions to be “made compatible” with end-to-end encryption. He said the way in which the technology is being used is the problem, rather than the technology itself. He said preventing the sharing or upload of child sexual abuse material into end-to-end encrypted spaces can be as unobtrusive as scanning for viruses or malware, and doesn’t require any intrusion into individuals’ privacy. Read more here (https://www.iwf.org.uk/policy-work/end-to-end-encryption-e2e/). Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

6. 

   5 Dec 2022

   4. Disturbing New Trend: In Conversation With IWF Hotline Manager

   Our analysts in the Hotline have discovered a disturbing new trend, what they’ve called iCAP sites or “invite child abuse pyramid” sites. These sites encourage users to share links to criminal child sexual abuse material, spamming social media platforms with them and increasing the risk of accidental exposure to this content by the public. Our Hotline Manager Tamsin McNally shares more details about this trend and warns people to not click on links coming from unknown sources. Tamsin McNally, Hotline Manager at the IWF, said: “We see the worst of the worst when it comes to child sexual abuse images online. We see images, videos, websites dedicated to hosting and selling this kind of material and websites that attempt to disguise this material. However this new trend is something very different.  We call them iCap sites and is not something we’ve seen before.” Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

7. 

   19 Oct 2022

   3. Join our Hotline Team: In Conversation With IWF Internet Content Analysts

   Protecting children is at the heart of everything we do. Our team of expert analysts do one of the most difficult, yet crucial, jobs in the world - searching for and seeking the removal of online child sexual abuse imagery. It’s a tough job. Our Analysts are amongst the best in the world. The children in the pictures are real. Their abuse and suffering is very real. Our experts never forget that. We talk to our Analysts Emilia, Mabel and Peter about their everyday work and the impact it has in the lives of many children worldwide in our latest episode. Wondering if you could do this job too? If you have a good heart and an analytical mind we want to hear from you. Find out more about job roles and how to apply at iwf.org.uk/careers (https://www.iwf.org.uk/about-us/who-we-are/careers/) Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

8. 

   8 Aug 2022

   2. The Hidden Crimes in our Children’s Bedroom: In Conversation With IWF Senior Analyst, Rosa

   New data released by the IWF today shows that almost 20,000 webpages identified by our team in the first half of 2022 included 'self-generated' child sexual abuse imagery of 7-to-10-year-old children - a 360% increase on the first half of 2020 when the UK entered its first Covid lockdown. The rapid growth of this material, showing primary-aged children, is a social and digital emergency, which needs a focussed and sustained effort to combat it from the Government, tech industry, law enforcement, education and non-profit organisations. In this episode, we talk to Rosa, one of our world-class analysts, about the actual images and videos the team see every day and what is happening to children in our homes. Parents and carers are encouraged to T.A.L.K to their children about online dangers. Visit talk.iwf.org.uk (https://talk.iwf.org.uk/) for a parent-and-carer-friendly guide to preventing this type of abuse. Our new podcast series offers quick dives into topical issues related to the global fight against online child sexual abuse images and videos and issues affecting child safety online. Join the conversation on social media with the hashtag #InConversationIWF Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

9. 

   29 Jul 2022

   1. Encryption Vs. Privacy: In Conversation With Professor Hany Farid and IWF Head of Policy & Public Affairs Mike Tunks

   “The introduction of end-to-end encryption technologies has led to a debate around the apparent dichotomy of good child safety and good general user privacy and security,” reads a new report by Dr Ian Levy and Crispin Robinson, respectively the technical heads of the UK’s National Cybersecurity Centre and GCHQ. The report made headlines last week after suggesting tech companies should move ahead with technology that scans for child abuse imagery essentially on users’ phones themselves. Speaking exclusively to the IWF as part of our new podcast series, Professor Hany Farid, image analysis expert at the University of California, Berkeley, said the report made it clear that privacy does not have to come at the expense of child protection. Our new podcast series offers quick dives into topical issues related to the global fight against online child sexual abuse images and videos and issues affecting child safety online. Join the conversation on Twitter with the hashtag #InConversationIWF Find out more at iwf.org.uk (https://www.iwf.org.uk/) Support the show (https://www.iwf.org.uk/donate/)

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