Every Sunday morning, the ABC's national political lead David Speers unpacks the major stories shaping Australia's future. Each episode includes a major interview with an Australian politician and an extensive discussion with a panel of the country's best journalists. This show will help you understand the major factors behind the decisions and debates driving a national conversation.

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Every Sunday morning, the ABC's national political lead David Speers unpacks the major stories shaping Australia's future. Each episode includes a major interview with an Australian politician and an extensive discussion with a panel of the country's best journalists. This show will help you understand the major factors behind the decisions and debates driving a national conversation.
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Recent Episodes

September 19, 2026
PM won't rule out changes to copyright law for AI giants
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese discusses potential copyright law changes for AI giants with host David Speers and panelists Patricia Karvelas, Laura Tingle, Charles Croucher, and James Massola.

September 13, 2026
Anika Wells open to changes to powers in digital duty of care bill
Anika Wells discusses potential amendments to the digital duty of care bill, exploring government strategies for online safety in Australia.

September 5, 2026
Government takes aim at the algorithm
Shadow Home Affairs Minister Jonno Duniam discusses government algorithm regulation with host David Speers and panelists Niki Savva, James Campbell, and Karen Middleton.
235 total episodes available with 102 transcripts
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PM won't rule out changes to copyright law for AI giants
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[…] But there is one thing Australia has that frustrates the AI companies and that's our copyright laws. Now Prime Minister in your speech back in July you said on this, no company should use Australian books, music, art or news to build or train AI without the artist's control. Anything less is theft. Is that still your position? Absolutely. And that's our position. And what's more, that statement was welcomed by many of the companies that are involved in development. But some of those companies, the big two, OpenAI and Anthropic, want those copyright laws watered down. Well, we think that the protection of the creative sector is very important and we're engaged constructively. […]
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