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Japan's Top Business Interviews is the premier business interview podcast for people who want to know more about business in japan. The guests cover a range of industries and organisation sizes, to present a thorough overview of issues with leading in Japan. If you are a leader, especialy someone leading in Japan, then this is the podcast for you.

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June 19, 2026

Campbell Hanley — Managing Director, Weber Shandwick Japan

<p class="MsoNormal">"Leadership, I think it's really walking the talk."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">"I think it comes from within, being genuinely very interested in people."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">"You can't win every battle, and you're crazy if you try to."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">"Let's look at the spirit of what they're trying to achieve."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">"To be successful in Japan, I think you have to be patient."</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Campbell Hanley is the Managing Director of Weber Shandwick Japan, one of Japan's longest-established international public relations and communications agencies. Originally from Torquay near Melbourne, Australia, he came to Japan in 1992 after deciding to live in a non-English-speaking country and develop international experience outside Australia.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">His career in Japan has moved across public relations, journalism, content marketing, advertising, digital communications and agency leadership. Hanley began in a small PR company, moved into marketing and digital work, and then became a staff writer for the Mainichi Daily News. He also worked on special projects for Fortune and Time magazine, developing an editorial perspective that later became central to his communications career.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Before joining Weber Shandwick Japan, he worked in a major American advertising company, initially as managing editor of a content marketing business and later in international advertising sales and digital marketing. At Weber Shandwick Japan, he was originally hired to build a content marketing unit but soon took on broader business, digital and leadership responsibilities. His career reflects the adaptability required to succeed in Japan: learning the language, understanding local business expectations, building credibility over time and translating global ideas into practical Japanese-market solutions.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Campbell Hanley's leadership journey in Japan began long before he became Managing Director of Weber Shandwick Japan. Arriving in 1992 from Australia, he did not come with a grand corporate plan or a fixed career pathway. He simply wanted to live in a country where English was not the dominant language and experience a society very different from the relatively homogeneous environment in which he had grown up near Melbourne.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Japan became that destination. What began as a one-year overseas experience developed into a decades-long career across public relations, journalism, advertising, content marketing, digital media and leadership. Hanley's career progression is a useful example for foreign professionals who build their lives in Japan not through a single breakthrough, but through accumulated credibility, language ability, adaptability and a willingness to learn from every role.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">His early work in a small PR company gave him an introduction to communications. A subsequent role in marketing exposed him to digital work at a time when digital communications meant something very different from today's social media, AI platforms and always-on content ecosystems. Later, he joined the Mainichi Daily News as a staff writer during a period when traditional media organisations were adjusting to digital distribution.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">That journalism experience became a defining advantage. It taught him to think like an editor rather than simply like a promoter. He learned to distinguish between a genuine story and what he describes as propaganda. That distinction became central to his later work in content marketing and public relations. Clients may want to tell the market everything about themselves, but audiences, journalists, customers and stakeholders only respond when the story is relevant, credible and useful.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley later joined a major American advertising company, where he became managing editor of a content marketing operation. It was his first meaningful leadership experience, managing a team of editors and content specialists. He discovered that leading experienced writers required more than formal authority. Editors see their writing as craftsmanship. They have opinions, pride and professional standards. Trying to win every argument would damage motivation and reduce the team's willingness to contribute ideas.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The answer was negotiation. Leaders need clear standards, client requirements and editorial principles, but they also need flexibility. Hanley learned that credibility comes from explaining why something should change, listening to experienced contributors and recognising that good leadership does not require winning every battle.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">At Weber Shandwick Japan, he initially joined to lead a newly formed content marketing division. The intended leadership structure was meant to include a business leader, a digital leader and an editorial leader. Instead, the business leader moved into another area of the organisation and the digital leader never arrived. Hanley found himself managing the editorial, business and digital dimensions of the operation at the same time.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">That intense period gave him a much wider view of leadership. He had to understand profit and loss responsibility, client needs, digital platforms, team capability and the internal politics of integrating new services into a traditional PR organisation. He later moved into the core Weber Shandwick Japan business, working to embed digital communications throughout the agency rather than treating it as a separate specialist division.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">His approach was practical. Rather than forcing every team to adopt new digital services at once, he found allies. He worked with colleagues who were curious, receptive and ready to experiment. Together, they met clients, developed communications ideas and used examples from Weber Shandwick's global network to show what was possible.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">This approach recognised a key truth about Japan. A global campaign may work in the United States, Europe or another Asia-Pacific market, but that does not guarantee success in Japan. The core idea may be relevant, but the delivery needs localisation. Japanese stakeholders need to understand the purpose, feel ownership and have confidence that the programme reflects their market reality. In that sense, digital transformation is not just about technology. It is also about nemawashi, trust-building, internal consensus and creating the conditions for people to support change.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">As Managing Director, Hanley places strong emphasis on engagement, consistency and psychological safety. He believes employees can sense whether leadership interest is genuine or manipulative. Employees are unlikely to become engaged simply because their employer launches an engagement initiative, an employee survey or a new corporate value statement. Engagement is built over time through repeated behaviour.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley's practice of meeting one employee each week over breakfast or lunch is a small but important example. These conversations have no rigid agenda. They are designed to understand how people are doing, what they are seeing and what may be happening beneath the surface of formal reporting lines. In Japan, where employees may hesitate to bring bad news to senior leaders, those informal conversations can help surface problems earlier.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">He also recognises that approachability is relative. A leader may believe that they are open and accessible, yet employees may still struggle to raise difficult issues face-to-face. One colleague who appeared calm during a discussion later sent a detailed and emotional email. That experience reinforced the importance of offering multiple channels for communication.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley's broader leadership lesson is simple but demanding: leadership in Japan requires patience. Executives who arrive with aggressive turnaround plans, fixed KPIs and a desire to make immediate changes can easily misread the organisation. Sustainable success comes from learning the landscape, identifying trusted partners, listening to quieter high performers and allowing relationships to develop over time.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">For Hanley, leadership is not about issuing instructions from above. It is walking the talk, creating clarity, modelling the values expected from others and building an environment where people can contribute honestly, creatively and confidently.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Q&A Summary</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>What makes leadership in Japan unique?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Leadership in Japan is unique because progress often depends on trust, relationships, consensus and careful internal alignment rather than visible executive force. Foreign leaders can underestimate the role of nemawashi, the informal process of building support before a decision becomes official. They may focus on the formal meeting, the ringi-sho approval or the announcement, without recognising that much of the real decision-making has already happened through conversations behind the scenes.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Japanese employees may also be more cautious about challenging senior leaders directly, especially in formal settings. That does not mean they lack ideas or commitment. It means leaders need to create multiple ways for people to contribute. Informal meetings, regular one-to-ones, anonymous suggestion systems and consistent follow-up can all help reduce the distance between senior management and the broader organisation.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The leadership challenge is not to become passive or avoid difficult decisions. It is to understand that change is more sustainable when people feel included in the process. In Japan, consensus is not simply about avoiding conflict. It is often a method for reducing implementation risk.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Why do global executives struggle?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Global executives often struggle in Japan when they assume that a successful strategy from another market can be transferred without adaptation. A campaign, operating model or leadership style that works in the United States, Europe or Singapore may not receive the same level of buy-in in Japan.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley's experience in communications shows that global programmes often fail not because the original idea is poor, but because Japanese stakeholders do not feel ownership over the delivery. Global headquarters may see a campaign as proven and scalable. The Japan team may see it as culturally disconnected, commercially unrealistic or difficult to execute with local customers, media and employees.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Executives also struggle when they become too focused on avoiding offence. Cultural sensitivity is important, but excessive caution can weaken decision intelligence. Leaders need to trust their judgement, while also seeking strong local counsel to identify blind spots. The best approach is not blind confidence or excessive deference. It is a balance between clear leadership instincts, local insight and evidence-based adaptation.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Is Japan truly risk-averse?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Japan is often described as risk-averse, but the more accurate issue is uncertainty avoidance. Japanese organisations may be reluctant to move quickly when the consequences, stakeholder reactions or implementation details are unclear. That is different from being unwilling to innovate.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley's career in digital communications shows that Japanese organisations can embrace change when the purpose is clear, the risks are understood and trusted people are involved in shaping the solution. Innovation often needs more explanation, more examples and more internal preparation than it might in a startup environment or a fast-moving Western market.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">This is why leaders should not interpret slow initial movement as resistance. Sometimes the organisation is asking for more clarity. What is the business case? Who will support the initiative? How will it affect customers? What are the risks? What happens if it fails? Who is accountable?</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The most effective leaders reduce uncertainty without eliminating ambition. They use pilots, local case studies, customer feedback, internal champions and phased implementation. They do not merely tell people to be more innovative. They create conditions in which innovation feels credible and safe.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>What leadership style actually works?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">A leadership style that works in Japan combines clarity, consistency, respect and follow-through. Hanley places particular importance on authenticity. Employees observe whether a leader behaves consistently over time, whether they treat people fairly and whether they give feedback in a way that supports improvement rather than simply criticising performance.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">This is especially important in a culture where employees may be cautious about exposing problems or challenging the boss. A leader who only appears interested when there is a crisis will not create trust. A leader who takes time to understand people, recognises contribution, provides regular feedback and deals with issues fairly is more likely to earn confidence.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley's approach also reflects servant leadership. He does not wait for employees to bring every issue to him. He asks questions, checks in regularly and works to identify problems before deadlines make them unmanageable. This is not micro-management. It is active leadership.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The key is to combine high expectations with human connection. Employees need to understand what success looks like, but they also need to believe that the leader wants them to succeed.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>How can technology help?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Technology can help leadership when it improves access to information, encourages ideas and reduces the barriers that stop people from speaking openly. Hanley's use of an anonymous digital suggestion platform is a good example. The system allowed employees to submit ideas in Japanese or English without fear that their identity would be traced.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The value of the tool was not only anonymity. It was also the message behind it. Employees saw that their suggestions were being read, considered and treated constructively. Technology can create channels, but leadership determines whether those channels are trusted.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">In communications, technology also expands the range of ways organisations can engage customers and stakeholders. Paid, owned, earned and shared media require different approaches. Companies need to think beyond advertising and consider how websites, newsletters, events, journalists, influencers, employees and customers all contribute to reputation.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Tools such as AI, analytics, digital twins and data platforms can improve decision-making, but they do not replace local judgement. Technology provides information. Leaders still need to interpret that information through the realities of customers, employees, Japanese business culture and organisational capability.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Does language proficiency matter?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Language proficiency matters because it signals commitment, builds trust and allows leaders to hear what is not being said. Hanley's Japanese ability helped him establish credibility early in his career. It showed colleagues that he had invested time and effort in understanding Japan rather than treating the country as a temporary overseas posting.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">However, language alone does not determine leadership effectiveness. A foreign executive may not become fluent in Japanese, yet still lead successfully if they listen carefully, use capable interpreters and bilingual advisers, and create an environment where people can communicate in the way that works best for them.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Hanley also highlights the importance of recognising quieter employees. In international companies, employees with stronger English skills or greater confidence in global communication can appear more visible than colleagues whose performance may actually be stronger. Leaders need to avoid rewarding only those who can speak most fluently in the leader's native language.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The best leaders look beyond self-promotion. They listen for substance, observe results and create fair evaluation systems.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>What is the ultimate leadership lesson?</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">The ultimate leadership lesson is patience. Hanley believes leaders need time to understand the organisation, build relationships, identify trusted partners and learn how decisions are really made. Rapid turnaround stories can be appealing, but in Japan, a leader who acts too quickly may damage trust before they have understood the full context.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Patience does not mean delaying decisions indefinitely. It means learning enough before acting. It means recognising that a relationship with a client, employee, partner or internal stakeholder may take years to build but can create value for decades.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Leadership in Japan is therefore a long-term practice. It is about walking the talk, showing consistency, respecting people, creating psychological safety and helping teams adapt global ideas to local realities.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">The strongest leaders do not merely manage tasks and KPIs. They create a culture in which people feel able to contribute, raise concerns, share ideas and take responsibility for the future of the business.</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Author Credentials</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie "One Carnegie Award" (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have also been translated into Japanese, including Za Eigyō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">ザ営業</span>), Purezen no Tatsujin (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">プレゼンの達人</span>), Torēningu de Okane o Muda ni Suru no wa Yamemashō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう</span>), and Gendaiban "Hito o Ugokasu" Rīdā (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">現代版「人を動かす」リーダー</span>).</p> <p class="MsoNormal">In addition to his books, Greg publishes daily blogs on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, offering practical insights on leadership, communication, and Japanese business culture. He is also the host of six weekly podcasts, including The Leadership Japan Series, The Sales Japan Series, The Presentations Japan Series, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews. On YouTube, he produces three weekly shows — The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews — which have become leading resources for executives seeking strategies for success in Japan.</p>

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June 12, 2026

Ernie Higa — President, CEO, and Chairman of Higa Industries

<p data-start="229" data-end="317">"Your biggest asset as an entrepreneur is actually yourself—your own personal strengths"</p> <p data-start="319" data-end="357">"You cannot get a cultural translator"</p> <p data-start="359" data-end="426">"You have to develop a different mentality for any retail business"</p> <p data-start="428" data-end="484">"It boils down to developing a strong corporate culture"</p> <p data-start="486" data-end="513">"One size does not fit all"</p> <p data-start="515" data-end="524">Ernie Higa is a Japanese American entrepreneur, business leader, and long-term Japan executive who built a career by bridging Japan and the United States. Born in Hawaii, educated in Geneva and Japan, and later trained at the Wharton School and Columbia Business School, he returned to Japan in the late 1970s to join his family's businesses before becoming an entrepreneur at the age of twenty-six. Starting at a time when entrepreneurship in Japan was far from mainstream, he built businesses across lumber, medical devices, and food service, including the development of Domino's Pizza Japan and later Wendy's Japan. His career arc reflects adaptability, cultural intelligence, and the ability to localise global business models for the Japanese market. Across multiple industries, Higa learned to lead older Japanese employees, attract talent outside traditional corporate pathways, build strong corporate culture, and balance global thinking with local execution in Japan.</p> <p data-start="1505" data-end="1522">Ernie Higa's leadership story is a practical case study in what it takes to build, adapt, and lead businesses in Japan when the usual paths are unavailable. As a Japanese American who looked Japanese but initially lacked Japanese fluency and deep cultural familiarity, he entered Japan with both an advantage and a disadvantage. He did not fit neatly into the Japanese corporate hierarchy, yet that ambiguity also allowed him to break certain unwritten rules. In 1979, at the age of twenty-six, entrepreneurship was not a recognised or respected career track in Japan. Banks were sceptical, age mattered, company pedigree mattered, and credibility was usually attached to large organisations. Higa had none of those traditional signals, so he had to build credibility through performance, adaptability, and cultural understanding.</p> <p data-start="2356" data-end="3090">His first major opportunity came in lumber. During the U.S.-Japan trade tensions of the 1970s and 1980s, he saw a way to add value by having Japanese lumber specifications cut in North American sawmills rather than simply importing logs for Japanese mills. This required him to bridge American production capabilities with Japanese precision requirements. The work demanded more than translation. It required understanding Japanese expectations around quality, reliability, tolerance, process, and trust. Higa's insight was that language could be translated, but culture could not be outsourced so easily. This became one of his central leadership lessons: leaders in Japan must understand the hidden rules, not only the spoken words.</p> <p data-start="3092" data-end="3771">As his businesses grew, Higa had to attract talent despite not being a famous Japanese corporation. He found opportunity in retired executives and staff from major trading houses and large companies. These people brought experience, networks, and discipline, while his own strengths were U.S.-Japan bridging, entrepreneurial thinking, and the ability to access decision-makers in ways a young Japanese executive might not have been able to do. Because he was not fully inside the Japanese system, he could sometimes bypass the conventional constraints of nemawashi, age hierarchy, and formal ringi-sho decision pathways, while still respecting the rules that could not be broken.</p> <p data-start="3773" data-end="4385">His leadership style evolved as his businesses diversified. In lumber and medical devices, leadership was closer to a conventional pyramid, where major decisions by the leader or top management shaped outcomes. But Domino's Pizza Japan taught him a different model: the upside-down pyramid. In retail, the store manager, not the president, creates the customer experience and drives revenue. The head office exists to support the frontline. This shift required humility, delegation, and trust. It also demanded a strong corporate culture that could scale across thousands of employees, including part-time staff.</p> <p data-start="4387" data-end="4908">Higa built that culture around ideas such as "can do" and "unique and exciting." These were not slogans for decoration; they were tools for shaping behaviour. In a market where uncertainty avoidance can discourage experimentation, Higa pushed for positivity, growth, and practical innovation. His use of training centres, staff events, incentive schemes, and even the acquisition of Domino's Hawaii reflected a leader trying to make the company attractive, aspirational, and different from traditional Japanese employers.</p> <p data-start="4910" data-end="5666">His approach to innovation was equally pragmatic. Japan's consumers demand quality, service, and variety, especially in food retail. Higa recognised that product development required customer input, staff ideas, leadership intuition, and the willingness to accept failure. But he also knew that entrepreneurs cannot afford massive failures. His early adoption of e-commerce for Domino's Japan was a form of decision intelligence: using technology to reduce lead times, test campaigns faster, and avoid being trapped by three-month flyer cycles that could not be changed once printed. In today's language, that mindset resembles the use of digital twins, rapid prototyping, and feedback loops to simulate, test, and adjust before risk becomes too expensive.</p> <p data-start="5668" data-end="6152">His ultimate message for global leaders in Japan is clear: think global, act local, but do not go too native. Japan requires respect, localisation, patience, and cultural sensitivity, but foreign leaders must also preserve the strengths they bring. Leadership in Japan is not about copying Japanese companies or imposing foreign templates. It is about knowing which rules to respect, which rules to challenge, and how to build trust through consistency, positivity, and determination.</p> <p data-start="6154" data-end="6165">Q&A Summary</p> <p data-start="6167" data-end="6205">What makes leadership in Japan unique?</p> <p data-start="6207" data-end="7086">Leadership in Japan is unique because credibility is often shaped by context before performance is even tested. Age, company name, educational background, capitalisation, scale, and social legitimacy all influence how a leader is received. Higa entered the market as a young Japanese American entrepreneur at a time when the idea of entrepreneurship did not resonate strongly with banks or mainstream business society. He had to lead in an environment where he lacked conventional status, yet he also discovered that being outside the system gave him some freedom. Because he was not a typical Japanese manager, he could sometimes approach senior decision-makers directly and avoid being pigeonholed by the normal hierarchy. The uniqueness of Japan lies in this balance: formal structures matter, but outsiders who understand the culture may sometimes move differently within it.</p> <p data-start="7088" data-end="7122">Why do global executives struggle?</p> <p data-start="7124" data-end="8008">Global executives often struggle because they assume that success in a large home market can be transferred directly to Japan. Higa describes two types of expatriates: those who come to show Japanese staff how things are done elsewhere, and those who recognise that Japan is different and try to work with those differences. The second group is more likely to succeed. Japan requires localisation not only in products and services but also in management. Decision-making, trust-building, customer expectations, employee motivation, and communication all work differently. A "one size fits all" approach fails because Japan's market has its own logic. Global executives must respect Japanese practices such as nemawashi, consensus-building, and ringi-sho processes, while also avoiding the mistake of becoming so localised that they lose the global strengths they were sent to provide.</p> <p data-start="8010" data-end="8037">Is Japan truly risk-averse?</p> <p data-start="8039" data-end="8845">Japan is often described as risk-averse, but Higa's experience suggests the deeper issue is uncertainty avoidance. People may hesitate when they cannot see the process, the precedent, or the likely outcome. In traditional Japanese organisations, fear of failure and reluctance to take on extra responsibility can slow initiative. Higa addressed this through a "can do" culture, reinforced by his own behaviour. He did not treat positivity as a motivational slogan alone; he used it as an operating principle. When the company hit obstacles, the question became how to respond constructively rather than retreat. In this sense, leadership is not about pretending risks do not exist. It is about reducing uncertainty, creating confidence, and showing people how to move forward despite imperfect information.</p> <p data-start="8847" data-end="8884">What leadership style actually works?</p> <p data-start="8886" data-end="9708">Higa argues that there is no single correct leadership style. The right style depends on the leader's personality, the business model, and the people being led. In his lumber and medical device businesses, important decisions were made by him and his senior team, creating a more traditional pyramid structure. In Domino's Pizza, however, the business required an upside-down pyramid because store managers created the value. The role of headquarters was to support the people closest to the customer. Higa's own preference was to lead by example, earn respect, and involve people in management decisions rather than rely on command-and-control authority. His broader point is that authenticity matters. A leader must understand their strengths and weaknesses and build a leadership approach that fits reality, not theory.</p> <p data-start="9710" data-end="9734">How can technology help?</p> <p data-start="9736" data-end="10580">Technology helps when it reduces the cost of failure and shortens the distance between idea and feedback. Higa's experience with Domino's flyers showed the problem clearly. The company spent heavily on printed campaigns, distributed them to stores and households, and sometimes discovered after two or three weeks that the campaign was ineffective. By then, the materials were already printed and the campaign cycle was locked in. His move into internet ordering and e-commerce was driven by a desire to make campaigns more flexible. If something did not work online, it could be changed quickly. This was an early form of digital decision intelligence. Today, leaders might use analytics, digital twins, scenario modelling, and customer feedback loops for the same reason: to test, learn, and adapt before small mistakes become large failures.</p> <p data-start="10582" data-end="10615">Does language proficiency matter?</p> <p data-start="10617" data-end="11360">Japanese language ability helps, but Higa stresses that cultural understanding matters even more. A leader can hire a language translator, but not a cultural translator. The deeper challenge is knowing what is being implied, what is not being said, which rules matter, which rules can be bent, and how trust is built. Language opens doors, but culture explains what is happening inside the room. For foreign leaders in Japan, even partial Japanese ability can signal respect and seriousness. However, the larger requirement is sensitivity to difference. Leaders must avoid judging Japanese practices simply because they differ from American, European, or other global norms. Respecting difference is the first step toward effective leadership.</p> <p data-start="11362" data-end="11400">What's the ultimate leadership lesson?</p> <p data-start="11402" data-end="12139">The ultimate lesson is determination combined with positivity. Higa has met many successful leaders with different personalities: some charismatic, some quiet, some brilliant, some surrounded by brilliant people. He does not believe leadership can be reduced to one formula. The common factor he sees is the ability to stay focused, remain determined, and not give up. Business always brings events beyond a leader's control: exchange rates, geopolitical shocks, climate change, pandemics, and market disruption. Leaders cannot control everything, but they can control how they respond. Reacting negatively does not help. The leadership challenge is to face negative situations with a constructive mindset and ask what can still be done.</p> <p data-start="12141" data-end="12158">Author Credentials</p> <p data-start="16445" data-end="16944">Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie "One Carnegie Award" (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results.</p> <p data-start="16946" data-end="17403">He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have also been translated into Japanese, including Za Eigyō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">ザ営業</span>), Purezen no Tatsujin (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">プレゼンの達人</span>), Torēningu de Okane o Muda ni Suru no wa Yamemashō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう</span>), and Gendaiban "Hito o Ugokasu" Rīdā (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">現代版「人を動かす」リーダー</span>).</p> <p data-start="17405" data-end="18019">In addition to his books, Greg publishes daily blogs on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, offering practical insights on leadership, communication, and Japanese business culture. He is also the host of six weekly podcasts, including The Leadership Japan Series, The Sales Japan Series, The Presentations Japan Series, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews. On YouTube, he produces three weekly shows — The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews — which have become leading resources for executives seeking strategies for success in Japan.</p> <p> </p> <p>My Point Of View</p> <p>Ernie is someone I often see around town and he is a very hard worker.  I would say he is probably the canniest entrepreneur I have met in Japan. A very impressive businessman and a great role model for the rest of us. He has excellent people and communication skills.</p>

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June 5, 2026

Meghan Barstow - President of Edelman Japan

<p>"My career, I like to say, is about saving the world one word at a time."</p> <p>"I love team building. I love creating something from nothing or growing it further."</p> <p>"Creating connection and engagement with people" is one of the hardest parts of leading remotely.</p> <p>"You need to show the vision, where you're going, and why that matters."</p> <p>"Leadership is really about unlocking the potential and power of those who report to you."</p> <p>Meghan Barstow is President of Edelman Japan, bringing a career defined by language, communications, adaptability and cross-cultural leadership. Her Japan story began thirty years earlier when she studied Japanese at Kansai Gaidai in Osaka after intensive language training in the United States. With an academic background in English literature and Japanese, she describes herself as "a woman who loves words," a phrase that neatly captures her professional journey.</p> <p>After university, Barstow returned to Japan through the JET Program, spending three years in rural Kagoshima as an ALT and CIR. That immersive experience deepened both her Japanese language capability and her understanding of regional Japan. She later worked for Hyogo Prefecture's business and cultural centre in Seattle, taught Japanese at a public high school, and returned to Tokyo to create business English textbooks before entering PR and communications through Adcom Group's Tri Media.</p> <p>Her career with Edelman began in Japan on the healthcare team when the office was still relatively small. She later moved to the United States, took time to hike the Pacific Crest Trail from Mexico to Canada, and rejoined Edelman in Washington, D.C., where she developed her leadership capabilities across client leadership, sector leadership and employee experience. Her long-held ambition was to return to Japan and lead an office. She eventually came back as President of Edelman Japan, taking on the challenge of leading more than seventy people during the COVID era, much of it remotely.</p> <p>Barstow's leadership context is shaped by global communications, Japanese cultural fluency, remote transformation, employee engagement, trust-building and organisational change. Her adaptability in Japan comes not from a single posting, but from repeated immersion, reinvention and a deep belief that words, trust and human connection sit at the centre of effective leadership.</p> <p>Meghan Barstow's leadership story is a study in language, mobility, resilience and change. As President of Edelman Japan, she leads an organisation at the intersection of communications, marketing, trust, earned attention and cultural transformation. Her path to Japan did not begin with the usual clichés of pop culture or food. Instead, it began with a love of travel, a willingness to take on difficult languages and a desire to build a career through communication.</p> <p>Her first deep experience of Japan came as a student at Kansai Gaidai in Osaka. Later, through the JET Program, she spent three years in rural Kagoshima, an experience that gave her more than language ability. It gave her the kind of cultural immersion that helps a foreign leader understand Japan beyond Tokyo boardrooms. She went on to work in cultural exchange, education, publishing and eventually PR, where she discovered that communications felt like her "calling."</p> <p>Barstow's return to Japan as Edelman's country leader came after significant leadership experience in the United States, particularly in Washington, D.C. Yet the move back was not simply a geographic transfer. She returned to a Japan office undergoing transformation, in an industry where the boundaries between PR, marketing, advertising, digital and corporate communications had become increasingly blurred. Edelman's value proposition, as she explains it, lies in being independent, family-owned, grounded in earned attention and differentiated by decades of research into trust through the Edelman Trust Barometer.</p> <p>Her biggest challenge was not only strategy. It was connection. She took on the role during COVID and had not met most of her employees face to face. Leading a team of more than seventy people remotely required deliberate communication, listening and repetition. She used all-staff business updates, weekly written roundups, one-on-one meetings, roundtables, strategy workshops and "strategy spotlight" sessions to make the direction tangible. In Japan, where uncertainty avoidance, consensus and nemawashi matter, remote transformation made alignment even harder.</p> <p>Barstow's approach to change management is grounded in clarity, role modelling and personal experience. She believes leaders must show the vision, explain why it matters, gain manager buy-in and give employees direct experiences of the new strategy. This is especially important in Japan, where change can feel risky because it moves people from competence into uncertainty. The challenge is not simply to announce direction, but to help people understand it emotionally and practically.</p> <p>Her leadership style is also shaped by trust. She recognises that trust in Japan is hard-won, takes time and becomes even more difficult in a remote environment. She sees consistency, integrity, care and communication as central to building it. Employee engagement surveys, business performance metrics and informal feedback help her understand whether the organisation is moving, but she also recognises that Japanese survey responses can be culturally restrained. For her, improvement over time matters more than absolute scores.</p> <p>Her view of leadership is ultimately humble and enabling. She sees the leader's role not as personal heroics, but as unlocking the potential of others. Sometimes the leader stands in front, showing the way. Sometimes beside people, supporting them step by step. Sometimes behind them, cheering them forward. For foreign executives in Japan, her lesson is clear: the fundamentals of leadership may be universal, but the path to alignment, buy-in and trust requires patience, listening, nemawashi and respect for how decisions are actually made.</p> <p>Q&A Summary</p> <p>What makes leadership in Japan unique?</p> <p>Leadership in Japan requires a careful balance between hierarchy and bottom-up consensus. Meghan Barstow observes that people may defer to the leader and expect direction, while also expecting decisions to emerge through wider involvement and alignment. This creates a leadership paradox for foreign executives. They must provide vision and direction without bypassing the consensus-building process that helps people feel ownership.</p> <p>Japan's business culture places high value on listening, patience, nemawashi and relationship-based trust. Leaders need to spend more time preparing the ground before pushing major initiatives forward. This is not simply politeness. It is a practical requirement for gaining commitment and avoiding resistance. In Barstow's experience, one-on-one listening, roundtables and repeated communication are essential to helping people understand both the logic and emotional meaning of change.</p> <p>Why do global executives struggle?</p> <p>Global executives often struggle in Japan because they underestimate how much time alignment takes. In faster-moving Western environments, a leader may announce a strategy and expect the organisation to move. In Japan, the message may need to be repeated, discussed, localised and validated through multiple channels before people fully commit.</p> <p>Barstow's own challenge was intensified by remote work. She was leading more than seventy people, yet had not met most of them face to face. That made trust-building, employee engagement and emotional connection much harder. Global executives may also misread employee engagement data, because Japanese respondents often score more conservatively than employees in other markets. Barstow therefore focuses less on comparing Japan with global averages and more on whether the organisation is improving over time.</p> <p>Is Japan truly risk-averse?</p> <p>Japan is often described as risk-averse, but Barstow's experience suggests the issue is more nuanced. The deeper challenge is uncertainty avoidance. People may hesitate when change pushes them out of a known area of competence into a new environment where they may make mistakes or lose face. This is particularly important in Japan's quality-conscious, defect-sensitive culture.</p> <p>For leaders, the answer is not to criticise caution. It is to reduce uncertainty through explanation, involvement, repetition and evidence of progress. Barstow emphasises the importance of showing the vision, explaining why it matters and giving people personal experiences of the change. When employees see that a new way of working succeeds with clients or improves outcomes, the change becomes real rather than abstract.</p> <p>What leadership style actually works?</p> <p>Barstow's leadership style combines strategic clarity, listening, humility and persistence. She began her tenure by preserving existing communication rhythms, then spent her first months listening through one-on-ones and roundtables. After understanding what employees wanted and needed, she built a communication and engagement plan around strategy, business updates and practical learning.</p> <p>She also recognises the importance of the "frozen middle" — the layer of managers who can either accelerate or block transformation. In Japan, leaders need managers to champion the change, role model new behaviours and translate strategy into daily practice. A leadership style that works is therefore not only top-down. It is distributed, repeated and reinforced through many small touchpoints.</p> <p>How can technology help?</p> <p>Technology can support leadership, but it cannot replace human trust. Barstow used remote platforms, written updates, engagement dashboards, survey tools and virtual roundtables to maintain communication during COVID. These tools created visibility when informal office interactions disappeared. Written communication also helped employees absorb messages at their own pace, especially in a multilingual environment.</p> <p>Technology can also improve decision intelligence by giving leaders more data about employee engagement, business performance and organisational change. In the future, tools such as digital twins of organisational workflows could help leaders model bottlenecks, workload pressures or collaboration patterns. However, Barstow's experience shows that technology only helps when paired with listening, empathy and human interpretation.</p> <p>Does language proficiency matter?</p> <p>Language proficiency matters, but cultural fluency matters even more. Barstow's Japanese study, rural JET Program experience and repeated periods living and working in Japan gave her a deeper foundation than a short-term expatriate assignment would have provided. Her language background helped her connect with Japan, but her leadership effectiveness also comes from understanding context, patience and communication style.</p> <p>She also recognises that English can be challenging in remote settings, even for capable bilingual professionals. Written updates, clear repetition and structured communication help ensure people can process complex information. For foreign leaders, language ability is valuable, but the bigger issue is whether employees feel understood, respected and included.</p> <p>What's the ultimate leadership lesson?</p> <p>The ultimate leadership lesson from Barstow's experience is that leadership is about unlocking the potential and power of others. She does not see leadership as being centred on the leader's ego. Rather, it is about helping people grow, strengthening organisational capability and creating conditions where others can succeed.</p> <p>Her definition of leadership is flexible. Sometimes leaders must lead from the front, showing the way. Sometimes they stand side by side, supporting people closely. Sometimes they lead from behind, encouraging and cheering others forward. In Japan, the most effective leaders combine vision with patience, courage with humility and strategy with the deep human work of trust-building.</p> <p>Author Credentials</p> <p>Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie "One Carnegie Award" (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results.</p> <p>He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have also been translated into Japanese, including Za Eigyō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">ザ営業</span>), Purezen no Tatsujin (<span lang="JA" xml:lang="JA">プレゼンの達人</span>), Torēningu de Okane o Muda ni Suru no wa Yamemashō (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう</span>), and Gendaiban "Hito o Ugokasu" Rīdā (<span lang="JA" xml:lang= "JA">現代版「人を動かす」リーダー</span>).</p> <p>In addition to his books, Greg publishes daily blogs on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, offering practical insights on leadership, communication, and Japanese business culture. He is also the host of six weekly podcasts, including The Leadership Japan Series, The Sales Japan Series, The Presentations Japan Series, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews. On YouTube, he produces three weekly shows — The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews — which have become leading resources for executives seeking strategies for success in Japan.</p>

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