Dentistry is experiencing an attack by well-funded corporations who want to own the work of each dentist’s hands. While the promises of wealth and ease DSO’s present to owner-dentists appear enticing, experience shows the reality is very different. Just Say No to the DSO is a deep dive podcast for dentists in all stages of their career. It is especially for those who are looking at whether or not the option to sell to a DSO is the right choice. Our expert hosts, Bob Spiel, MBA and Nate Williams, CPA, CFP take listeners on a step by step journey through Season One laying out the realities of selling a practice to a DSO and why this isn't as good as it sounds, or the only option for successful dentists to have a thriving practice. Come and listen for the years of experience inside dentistry, as well as medicine, that have led to their logical arguments and stay for additional audience and listener feedback.<br />Questions you’d like addressed live in future episodes can be sent to: <a href="https://justsaynotothedso.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">questions@justsaynotothedso.com</a><br /><br />Let's start the discussion on how to save the future of the Dental Industry.

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Dentistry is experiencing an attack by well-funded corporations who want to own the work of each dentist’s hands. While the promises of wealth and ease DSO’s present to owner-dentists appear enticing, experience shows the reality is very different. Just Say No to the DSO is a deep dive podcast for dentists in all stages of their career. It is especially for those who are looking at whether or not the option to sell to a DSO is the right choice. Our expert hosts, Bob Spiel, MBA and Nate Williams, CPA, CFP take listeners on a step by step journey through Season One laying out the realities of selling a practice to a DSO and why this isn't as good as it sounds, or the only option for successful dentists to have a thriving practice. Come and listen for the years of experience inside dentistry, as well as medicine, that have led to their logical arguments and stay for additional audience and listener feedback.<br />Questions you’d like addressed live in future episodes can be sent to: <a href="https://justsaynotothedso.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">questions@justsaynotothedso.com</a><br /><br />Let's start the discussion on how to save the future of the Dental Industry.
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Recent Episodes

June 3, 2026
It All Starts Right Here with Dr. Brendan Gallagher
Oral surgeon and podcaster Dr. Brendan Gallagher discusses how DSOs impact dentistry and offers young dentists strategies for practice ownership and career growth in this interview.

May 12, 2026
Now, The DSO Will Make Your Equity...Disappear
Host Nate and guest Bob, a dental industry expert, dissect how DSOs make practice equity disappear, empowering dentists with the truth about these deals.

May 1, 2026
Sometimes It Pays To Listen To Your Better Half with Dr Mike Crockett Part 2
Dr. Mike Crockett and Christy Crockett share crucial lessons on building a dental practice and deciding when to say no to a DSO in this interview with Nate.
60 total episodes available with 5 transcripts
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