It all comes back to land.
Landscapes is an interview style podcast about the role of land in society and the environment, presented by Adam Calo.
Landscapes
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It all comes back to land. Landscapes is an interview style podcast about the role of land in society and the environment, presented by Adam Calo.
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December 19, 2025
More is Less? - Michael Grunwald
<p>Michael Grunwald is an environmental journalist who sees maximizing efficient production as the most important sustianbility strategy. His book, "We Are Eating the Earth," brings fresh attention to an old debate.</p> <p><strong>Episode Links</strong></p> <p><strong><!--StartFragment --></strong></p> <ul> <li class="pf0"><!--StartFragment --><a class="cf0" href= "https://michaelgrunwaldbooks.com/"><span class="cf0">We Are Eating the Earth</span></a><!--EndFragment --></li> <li class="pf0"> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Grunwald, M. (2024, December 13). Opinion | Sorry, but This Is the Future of Food. The New York Times. <a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/opinion/food-agriculture-factory-farms-climate-change.html"> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/opinion/food-agriculture-factory-farms-climate-change.html</a></div> </div> </li> <li class="pf0"><!--StartFragment --><a class="cf0" href= "https://adamcalo.substack.com/p/the-useful-idiot"><span class= "cf0">The Useful Idiot</span></a><span class="cf0">, Land Food Nexus rebuttal to Grunwald's NYT piece</span> <!--EndFragment --></li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://spectrejournal.com/the-enduring-fantasy-of-feeding-the-world/"> <span class="cf1">The E</span><span class="cf1">nduring Fantasy of Feeding the World</span></a>, Spectre Journal</li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://blog.geographydirections.com/2019/02/26/historians-rethink-the-green-revolution/"> <span class="cf1">Historians rethink the Green Revolution</span></a></li> <li class="pf0"><!--StartFragment --><a href= "https://upittpress.org/books/9780822947349/"><span class="cf0">The Globalization of Wheat: A Critical History of the Green Revolution</span></a><!--EndFragment --></li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1">Max Ajl's A<a href= "https://www.plutobooks.com/product/a-peoples-green-new-deal/"> People's Green New Deal</a></span></li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1">On the contribution of yields to hunger abatement: </span> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Smith, L. C., & Haddad, L. (2015). Reducing Child Undernutrition: Past Drivers and Priorities for the Post-MDG Era. World Development, 68, 180–204. <a href= "https://doi.org/10.1016/j.worlddev.2014.11.014">https://doi.org/10.1016/j.worlddev.2014.11.014</a></div> </div> </li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1">On the role of intensive agriculture in failing to reduce deforestation:</span> <ul> <li class="pf0"> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Ceddia, M. G., Bardsley, N. O., Gomez-y-Paloma, S., & Sedlacek, S. (2014). Governance, agricultural intensification, and land sparing in tropical South America. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 111(20), 7242–7247. <a href= "https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1317967111">https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1317967111</a></div> </div> </li> <li class="pf0"> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Pratzer, M., Fernández-Llamazares, Á., Meyfroidt, P., Krueger, T., Baumann, M., Garnett, S. T., & Kuemmerle, T. (2023). Agricultural intensification, Indigenous stewardship and land sparing in tropical dry forests. Nature Sustainability, 1–12. <a href= "https://doi.org/10.1038/s41893-023-01073-0">https://doi.org/10.1038/s41893-023-01073-0</a></div> </div> </li> <li class="pf0"> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Thaler, G. M. (2017). The Land Sparing Complex: Environmental Governance, Agricultural Intensification, and State Building in the Brazilian Amazon. Annals of the American Association of Geographers, 107(6), 1424–1443. <a href= "https://doi.org/10.1080/24694452.2017.1309966">https://doi.org/10.1080/24694452.2017.1309966</a></div> </div> </li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://adamcalo.substack.com/p/land-sparers-feel-their-oats">Land sparers feel thier oats</a></li> <li class="pf0"> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Thaler, G. M. (2024). Saving a Rainforest and Losing the World: Conservation and displacement in the global tropics. Yale University Press.</div> <div class="csl-entry"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1">The IEA on competing theories of Indirect Land Use Change and biofuels: <!--StartFragment --><a href="https://www.ieabioenergy.com/blog/publications/towards-an-improved-assessment-of-indirect-land-use-change-evaluating-common-narratives-approaches-and-tools/"><span class="cf0">Towards an improved assessment of indirect land-use change – Evaluating common narratives, approaches, and tools</span></a> <!--EndFragment --> </span></li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1"><a href= "https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ruth-schwartz-cowan/more-work-for-mother/9780465047321/?lens=basic-books"> More Work for Mother:</a> The Ironies Of Household Technology From The Open Hearth To The Microwave | Ruth Cowan</span></li> <li class="pf0"><span class="cf1">Munro, K. (2025). <a href= "https://econpapers.repec.org/paper/newwpaper/2509.htm">Reconsidering the relationship between home appliance ownership and married women's labor supply: Evidence from Brazil</a> (No. 2509).</span></li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://story.futureoffood.org/cultivating-change/index.html"><span class="cf1"> The Global Alliance for the Future of Food call for investment in food systems transition</span></a></li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://www.wri.org/insights/denmark-agriculture-climate-policy"><span class="cf1"> The World Resources Institute report on Denmark's Green Tripartite Agreement</span></a></li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://www.arc2020.eu/behind-the-danish-green-tripartite-democracy-smallholders-and-the-rights-of-rural-people/"> <span class="cf0">Behind the Danish Green Tripartite </span><span class="cf1">– Democracy, Smallholders and the Rights of Rural People</span></a></li> <li class="pf0"><a href= "https://food.berkeley.edu/from-the-field/agroecology-or-industrial-intensification/"> Grunwald debates an agroecologist</a></li> <li class="pf0"> <p class="pf0"><a href= "https://civileats.com/2025/11/12/at-cop30-brazilian-meat-giant-jbs-recommends-climate-policy/"> <span class="cf0">At COP30, Brazilian Meat Giant JBS Recommends Climate Policy </span></a></p> <p class="pf0"> </p> </li> </ul> <p class="pf0"><strong><span class="cf0">About Landscapes</span></strong></p> <p>Landscapes is produced by Adam Calo. A complete written transcript of the episode can be found on Adam's newsletter: <a href="https://adamcalo.substack.com/">Land Food Nexus</a>.</p> <p>Send feedback or questions to adamcalo@substack.com or <a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/adamcalo.bsky.social">Bluesky</a></p> <p>Music by Blue Dot Sessions: "Kilkerrin" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).</p> <p class="pf0"> </p> <ul> <ul><!--EndFragment --></ul> <!--StartFragment --><!--EndFragment --></ul> <p> </p> <p> </p>
August 15, 2025
The Afterlives of Coal
<p>Even as efforts to transition Appalachia out of coal receive broad policy support, the fate of the landscape is ultimately driven by incumbent actors used to getting what they want. Dr Lindsay Shade and Dr Karen Rignall discuss their research about how legacies of land ownership frustrate equitable and effective transition strategies. While an "Abundance" argument suggests that "the Democratic fetish for legalistic procedure has in so many places, made it impossible to get stuff done," the afterlives of coal provides a stark reminder of the deeper powers that control what happens on the land. Confronting the legacies of landownership may be the only path to meaningful landscape transformation. <br /> <br /> <strong>Episode Links</strong></p> <ul> <li>Dr <a href="https://sociology.utk.edu/people/lindsay-shade/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lindsay Shade</a></li> <li>Dr <a href="https://cld.ca.uky.edu/directory/karen-rignall" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Karen Rignall</a></li> <li>Shade, L., Schwartzman, G., Rignall, K., Slovinsky, K., & Johnson, J. (2025). <a href= "https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2753-3751/adb1ea/meta" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Afterlives of coal: land and transition dynamics in Central Appalachia</a>. Environmental Research: Energy, 2(1), 015015.</li> <li>Also see: Shade, L., Rignall, K., Tarus, L., & Starr, C. (2025). <a href= "https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2753-3751/add93d">The role of land in a just transition: the Appalachian Land Study collective</a>. Environmental Research: Energy, 2(2), 025010.</li> <li>The ongoing <a href= "https://www.appalachianlandstudy.org/about">Appalachian Land Study</a> and the historic <a href= "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Land_Ownership_Survey">Appalachian Land Ownership Study</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.martincountysolarproject.com/">Martin County solar project</a> on the former Martiki mine</li> <li><a href= "https://www.nature.org/en-us/what-we-do/our-priorities/protect-water-and-land/land-and-water-stories/cumberland-forest-project/"> The Cumberland Forest Project</a> (The Nature Conservancy)</li> <li><a href= "https://halrogers.house.gov/2024/10/congressman-rogers-announces-approval-of-letcher-prison-construction"> Congressman Hal Rogers and prison development</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.courtswv.gov/sites/default/pubfilesmnt/2023-10/21-BCD-4MotionToRefer.pdf"> Carbon sequestration court case</a>: Pocahontas Surfcae Interests and Forestland Group</li> <li><a href="https://theallianceforappalachia.org/">The Alliance for Appalachia</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.appalachianrekindlingproject.org/about">The Appalachian Rekindling Project </a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.derekthompson.org/p/the-future-of-abundance-and-the-left"> The Abundance critique of process</a></li> <li><a href="https://groveatlantic.com/book/the-heavens/">The Heavens</a>, by Sandra Newman</li> </ul> <p>Landscapes is produced by Adam Calo. A complete written transcript of the episode can be found on Adam’s newsletter: <a href="https://adamcalo.substack.com/">Land Food Nexus</a>.</p> <p>Send feedback or questions to adamcalo@substack.com or <a href= "https://bsky.app/profile/adamcalo.bsky.social">Bluesky</a></p> <p>Music by Blue Dot Sessions: “Kilkerrin” by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).</p> <p>Podcast Guest Correction: <span style= "font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: Aptos; color: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: HE;"> "At minute 26.41 - 27.55 it is implied that The Nature Conservancy (TNC) acquired all 253,000 acres as a single parcel and that it all passed through Pocahontas Land Company and Heartwood Forestland Fund, and also that The Forestland Group "sold" land to the former. Heartwood Forestland Fund is managed by The Forestland Group and holds land under various subsidiaries. In the three states where TNC brokered land deals for the Cumberland Forest Project, the land is held by various LLC's that TNC controls, all of which purchased land from subsidiaries of either The Forestland Group or Molpus-Woodlands, two different timber investment management organizations (TIMO's). These TIMO's previously bought land and/or timber rights from various coal and natural resource landholding companies in the region, including Pocahontas. As we describe in our paper on p. 8, the trajectory of the land in our case study in East TN is as follows: the land was first consolidated by the 19th century British coal company and land speculation firm "The American Association Ltd," later sold to JM Huber Coal, and then to Molpus-Woodlands, before being acquired by Cumberland Forest LLC, which The Nature Conservancy has a controlling share and manages."</span></p>
June 28, 2024
An Alibi for Ecocide
<p>An apparent "success story" of Amazonian forest conservation motivates a 6-years investigation of the land sparing hypothesis. <a href="https://gregorythaler.com/about/">Dr. Gregory Thaler</a>'s new book, <em>Saving a Rainforest and Losing the World,</em> reveals a tragic belief that agricultural intensification will solve our problems of enduring extraction of the world's biodiversity.</p> <p><strong>Episode Links</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href= "https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300272482/saving-a-rainforest-and-losing-the-world/"> Saving a Rainforest and Losing the World</a>: Conservation and Displacement in the Global Tropics. <em>Yale University Press</em></li> <li> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Roser, Max. 2024. <a href= "https://ourworldindata.org/agricultural-productivity-crucial.">Why Is Improving Agricultural Productivity Crucial to Ending Global Hunger and Protecting the World’s Wildlife?</a> <em>Our World in Data.</em></div> </div> </li> <li>Phalan BT. 2018 <a href="https://doi.org/10.3390/su10061760" target="_blank" rel="noopener">What Have We Learned from the Land Sparing-sharing Model?</a> <em>Sustainability</em>. 10(6):1760. </li> <li><a href= "https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-020-00194-5">Scientists calling</a> the apparent Brazilian halting of deforestation "one of the great conservation successes of the twenty-first century," in <em>Nature Food</em></li> <li>For an excellent review of the Land Sparing / Land Sharing debate see: Claire Kremen, Ilke Geladi (2024). <a href= "https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-822562-2.00072-4">Land-Sparing and Sharing: Identifying Areas of Consensus, Remaining Debate and Alternatives</a>, Editor(s): Samuel M. Scheiner, Encyclopedia of Biodiversity (Third Edition), Academic Press, 435-451, ISBN 9780323984348. OR</li> <li><a href= "https://open.substack.com/pub/adamcalo/p/land-sparers-feel-their-oats?r=7iqsm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web"> Land Spares Feel Their Oats</a>, <em>Land Food nexus</em></li> <li> <div class="csl-bib-body"> <div class="csl-entry">Ritchie, Hannah. 2021. <a href= "https://ourworldindata.org/palm-oil">Palm Oil</a>. <em>Our World in Data</em>.</div> </div> </li> <li>An example of the "<a href= "https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.aad0055?casa_token=-L-GP4hXVRcAAAAA%3AekPuhxBeKieobFo27J_f1AXkF8IQXI5CQsy_DjLFcCyN6-nKIZdLn2dhUvzl9UhqNoLWz3eP4eTUdGM">active land sparing argument</a>."</li> <li>The green revolution: Patel, R. (2013). <a href= "https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03066150.2012.719224"> The long green revolution</a>. <em>The Journal of Peasant Studies</em>, <em>40</em>(1), 1-63.</li> <li>An argument for the "forest transition model" as it <a href= "https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0143622810001402"> applies to Brazilian forests</a>.</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Landscapes is produced by <a href= "https://adamcalo.substack.com/about">Adam Calo</a>. A complete written transcript of the episode can be found on Adam’s newsletter: <a href="https://adamcalo.substack.com/">Land Food Nexus</a>.</p> <p>Send feedback or questions to <a href= "mailto:adamcalo@substack.com">adamcalo@substack.com</a> or <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/adamcalo.bsky.social">https://bsky.app/profile/adamcalo.bsky.social</a> </p> <p>Music by Blue Dot Sessions: “Kilkerrin” by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).</p>
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