by Kelly Lutz and JK McLeod
Welcome to Lifting, Running & Living! As coaches in the fitness space and two humans who love movement (running for Kelly, strength for JK), every episode will contain some element of fitness, plus a variety of other topics we're seeing, dealing with or hearing about. Join us every other Friday for chit chat, tangents & lots of laughing.
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July 3, 2026
<p>In episode 81 of Lifting, Running, and Living, Kelly shares “Brick” updates while traveling to Chicago and attending a Rockies game. JK recaps a trip to Omaha for the College World Series and gives an update on his no-complaint challenge. They then discuss how to prioritize lifting, cardio, mobility, and steps when there isn’t enough time for everything, share their current routines, and talk about guilt and low motivation versus relying on habits and responsibility.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Welcome and Updates</p><p>00:55 Brick Basics Refresher</p><p>03:21 Brick Travel Lessons</p><p>15:24 JK Omaha Trip Recap</p><p>25:02 No Complaint Challenge Check In</p><p>27:46 Too Much Fitness To Fit</p><p>31:01 Kelly Weekly Routine Breakdown</p><p>33:41 JK Current Training Split</p><p>37:20 Why This Routine Works</p><p>46:43 Exercise Guilt and Gaps</p><p>50:28 When Fitness Shows Up</p><p>54:10 Seasonal Priorities Mindset</p><p>59:20 Motivation Versus Habits</p><p>01:03:55 Wrap Up and Outro</p><p><br></p><p>Follow the podcast at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/liftingrunninglivingpod">@liftingrunninglivingpod</a></p><p>Email us at <a href="mailto:liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com">liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com</a></p><p>Follow JK at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/coachjkmcleod">@coachjkmcleod</a></p><p>Follow Kelly at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/runningklutz/%E2%81%A0">@runningklutz </a></p>
June 19, 2026
<p>In episode 80, JK describes starting a 30-day no-complaining challenge after noticing how easy it is to “cosign” others’ complaints, and he’s traveling to Omaha for a 14U baseball tournament and a College World Series game, while Kelly is traveling to Chicago, increasing running volume, lifting twice, and monitoring a heel issue that’s improving. They then talk about “health maxing,” reacting to a resurfaced Diary of a CEO clip where Steven Bartlett said three glasses of wine led to worse sleep, eating, gym performance, and podcasting for days, debating wearables, optimization culture, and checking in with yourself before device metrics.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Cold Open and Intro</p><p>00:33 Today’s Topics Preview</p><p>01:26 Kelly’s Chicago Update</p><p>05:06 JK’s No Complaining Challenge</p><p>13:50 Omaha Travel Baseball Plans</p><p>16:10 Courtesy Plates Gym Etiquette</p><p>21:25 Health Maxing and Viral Clip</p><p>25:03 Critiques of Optimization Culture</p><p>28:34 Recovery Time Skepticism</p><p>30:10 Bad Optimization Example</p><p>34:13 Sobriety vs Fun Debate</p><p>39:18 Wellness Surveillance Culture</p><p>42:46 Wearables Help or Harm</p><p>44:49 Metrics Anxiety in Training</p><p>49:55 HRV and Zone Two Hype</p><p>52:09 Actionable Takeaways</p><p>55:30 Wrap Up and Plug</p><p><br></p><p>Follow the podcast at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/liftingrunninglivingpod">@liftingrunninglivingpod</a></p><p>Email us at <a href="mailto:liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com">liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com</a></p><p>Follow JK at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/coachjkmcleod">@coachjkmcleod</a></p><p>Follow Kelly at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/runningklutz/%E2%81%A0">@runningklutz </a></p>
June 5, 2026
<p>Kelly and JK start with both sharing updates on using Brick, a physical device that blocks apps/websites until you tap the phone to it. JK also announces Help Me Understand will relaunch in July back to broader topics while he starts a new fitness-focused podcast, Make Fitness Make Sense. They then discuss the Enhanced Games and debate whether coaches/influencers should disclose use of PEDs, HRT, fat burners, peptides, or GLP-1s, referencing a GLP-1 disclosure controversy and advising people to look for long-form content to vet consistency and context.</p><p><br></p><p>00:20 Episode 79 Topic Tease</p><p>01:11 Kelly Brick Explained</p><p>07:21 JK Brick Review</p><p>15:05 Podcast Relaunch Plans</p><p>19:19 Enhanced Games Overview</p><p>25:53 Enhanced Games Reactions</p><p>33:39 Can Drugs Break Records</p><p>36:11 Optimization Manosphere Angle</p><p>37:14 Disclosure Rules For Influencers</p><p>45:53 Coaches PEDs And Trust</p><p>47:10 GLP-1 Controversy Case Study</p><p>50:23 How To Vet Fitness Claims</p><p>52:08 Wrap Up And Contact Info</p><p><br></p><p>Follow the podcast at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/liftingrunninglivingpod">@liftingrunninglivingpod</a></p><p>Email us at <a href="mailto:liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com">liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com</a></p><p>Follow JK at <a href="http://www.instagram.com/coachjkmcleod">@coachjkmcleod</a></p><p>Follow Kelly at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/runningklutz/%E2%81%A0">@runningklutz </a></p>
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Welcome to Lifting, Running & Living!
As coaches in the fitness space and two humans who love movement (running for Kelly, strength for JK), every episode will contain some element of fitness, plus a variety of other topics we're seeing, dealing with or hearing about.
Join us every other Friday for chit chat, tangents & lots of laughing.
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