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April 21, 2025
<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p> <ul> <li>Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You</li> <li>We Need Another Standard</li> <li>The Newest of the New</li> </ul> <p>0:00 Cold Open<br> 2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land<br> 21:51 Rust Is Inevitable<br> 41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey<br> 1:08:25 Next Time<br> 1:10:24 Stinger</p> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br> <a href="https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/4Y_u6TPPMvI</a></p> <h2>What a Qt little AI?</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-ai-assistant-v0.9-released-deploy-llms-locally-and-enjoy-the-upgraded-user-experience" rel="nofollow">Qt Blog post</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Increased-AI-Coding-Caps" rel="nofollow">Phoronoix article</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣Announcements📣</h2> <p>This program was made possible by:</p> <ul> <li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li> <li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li> <li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li> </ul> <h2>We need another standard</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://xkcd.com/927/" rel="nofollow">The XKCD cartoon</a></li> <li><a href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3708553" rel="nofollow">The ACM paper</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2> <ul> <li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="nofollow">[email protected]</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li> </ul> <h2>Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases</h2> <h3>Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release</h3> <ul> <li><a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-25-04-plucky-puffin-released/59303" rel="nofollow">Ubuntu Release Announcement</a></li> <li>Links to the <a href="https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/plucky-puffin-release-notes/48687#heading--official-flavours" rel="nofollow">Official Flavors release notes</a></li> </ul> <h3>Fedora 42 and Spins release</h3> <ul> <li><a href="https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42/" rel="nofollow">Fedora 42 Release Announcement</a></li> <li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/#editions" rel="nofollow">Fedora Downloads</a></li> <li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/" rel="nofollow">Atomic Desktops</a></li> <li><a href="https://fedoraproject.org/spins" rel="nofollow">Spins</a></li> </ul> <h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2> <p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p> <ul> <li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li> <li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li> <li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li> <li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li> <li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li> <li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li> <li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li> <li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li> <li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li> <li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li> </ul> <h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2> <p><strong>We plan to cover our exploration of the new releases.</strong></p> <p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p> <p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p> <hr> <p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p> <h2>Producer</h2> <ul> <li>Bruno</li> <li>Dave</li> <li>John</li> <li>Visaggio & Co</li> </ul> <h3>Co-Producer</h3> <ul> <li>--verbose</li> <li>LqLarry</li> <li>MarshMan</li> <li>GrouchyM</li> <li>Tim</li> </ul> <h4>Super User</h4> <ul> <li>A.J.</li> <li>Advait</li> <li>Amanita</li> <li>Backshift6090</li> <li>CubicleNate</li> <li>Eduardo S.</li> <li>FrozenGorilla</li> <li>Hausken</li> <li>Jeff3ix</li> <li>Jefferson</li> <li>Jill and Steve</li> <li>Larry</li> <li>LiNuXsys666</li> <li>Livet</li> <li>Musical Coder</li> <li>Mick</li> <li>Nicholas</li> <li>Rotted Mood</li> <li>sleepyeyesvince</li> <li>The Saigoneer</li> </ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>
April 7, 2025
<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p> <ul> <li>The Thunder rolls</li> <li>We flatten out the History</li> <li>And Package Up Our Experience</li> </ul> <p>0:00 Cold Open<br> 1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!<br> 23:21 The History of Flatpak</p> <ul> <li>24:32 From Glick to Bundles</li> <li>29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app</li> <li>30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">The Video Version</a><br> <a href="https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/_fXr6fCPJ8U</a></p> <h2>Thundermail</h2> <ul> <li>The <a href="https://blog.thunderbird.net/2025/04/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services/" rel="nofollow">Thundermail announcement</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣Announcements📣</h2> <p>This program was made possible by:</p> <ul> <li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li> <li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li> <li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li> </ul> <h2>The history of flatpak packages</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20021122061820/http://autopackage.org/" rel="nofollow">Autopackage</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120203221057/http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow">Listaller</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130717201957/https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/" rel="nofollow">AppStream</a></li> <li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2007/08/07/experiments-with-runtime-less-app-bundles/" rel="nofollow">The roots</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">Klik</a></li> <li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2011/09/30/rethinking-the-linux-distibution/" rel="nofollow">Rethinking the Linux distribution</a></li> <li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2018/06/20/flatpak-a-history/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak 4 years in</a></li> <li>Goodbye xdg-app, hello <a href="https://flatpak.org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Flatpak</a></li> <li><a href="https://jimmac.github.io/flatpak-org/press/2016-06-21-flatpak-released/" rel="nofollow">Initial Flatpak press release</a></li> <li>KDE's Discover found its <a href="https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.10.5-5.11.0/" rel="nofollow">support of Flatpak</a></li> <li><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441922#c59" rel="nofollow">Firefox begins Flatpak builds</a></li> <li><a href="https://feaneron.com/2022/02/14/obs-studio-27-2-on-flathub-get-it-while-its-hot/" rel="nofollow">OBS begins Flatpak builds too</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.omglinux.com/thunderbird-115-is-now-available-on-flathub/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbird gets official support</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2> <ul> <li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="nofollow">[email protected]</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li> </ul> <h2>Extra Flatpak Resources</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/</a></li> <li><a href="https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/" rel="nofollow">https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/%7Ealexl/glick/" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/</a></li> <li><a href="https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler</a></li> </ul> <h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2> <p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p> <ul> <li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li> <li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li> <li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li> <li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li> <li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li> <li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li> <li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li> <li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li> <li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li> <li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li> </ul> <h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2> <p><strong>We plan to cover more topics and feedback.</strong></p> <p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p> <p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p> <hr> <p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p> <h2>Producer</h2> <ul> <li>Bruno</li> <li>Dave</li> <li>John</li> <li>Visaggio & Co</li> </ul> <h3>Co-Producer</h3> <ul> <li>--verbose</li> <li>LqLarry</li> <li>MarshMan</li> <li>GrouchyM</li> <li>Tim</li> </ul> <h4>Super User</h4> <ul> <li>A.J.</li> <li>Advait</li> <li>Amanita</li> <li>Backshift6090</li> <li>CubicleNate</li> <li>Eduardo S.</li> <li>FrozenGorilla</li> <li>Hausken</li> <li>Jeff3ix</li> <li>Jefferson</li> <li>Jill and Steve</li> <li>Larry</li> <li>LiNuXsys666</li> <li>Livet</li> <li>Musical Coder</li> <li>Mick</li> <li>Nicholas</li> <li>Rotted Mood</li> <li>sleepyeyesvince</li> <li>The Saigoneer</li> </ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>
March 24, 2025
<p><strong>Coming up in this episode</strong></p> <ul> <li>Oh GNOME!</li> <li>Mozilla, Don't Watch</li> <li>And a few high notes</li> </ul> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo" rel="nofollow">The Video Version!</a><br> <a href="https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/FdHulOnBwEo</a></p> <p>0:00 Cold Open<br> 1:07 Dash To Panel Needs Your Help!<br> 27:21 Firefox's New Terms Of Use<br> 51:33 Mark / Contact Button<br> 1:00:34 Scott / Contact Button<br> 1:03:22 Dan / Matrix<br> 1:06:09 chraist / Matrix<br> 1:08:07 bgt lover / Matrix<br> 1:10:00 MarshMan / Discord<br> 1:13:58 Next Time!<br> 1:18:45 Stinger</p> <h2>Dash to Panel Maintainer Quits</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/14/dashtopanel_maintainer_quits/" rel="nofollow">Dash to panel maintainer quits</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/home-sweet-gnome/dash-to-panel/issues/2259" rel="nofollow">The GitHub issue</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣Announcements📣</h2> <p>This program was made possible by:</p> <ul> <li>📺️<a href="https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a></li> <li>📽️<a href="https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">TILvids</a></li> <li>And by contributions to your L-U-S station by <a href="https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace" rel="nofollow">Patrons</a> like you 😍</li> </ul> <h2>Mozilla Don't Watch</h2> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/about/legal/terms/firefox/" rel="nofollow">The Terms</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/" rel="nofollow">The Blog</a></li> <li><a href="https://tilvids.com/w/ssV7mEKnwhFfJhnxSWGCTk" rel="nofollow">The Linux Experiment and Ryan Sipes</a></li> <li><a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/" rel="nofollow">The Update to the TOU</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20250130114707/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/" rel="nofollow">The old FAQ</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/faq/" rel="nofollow">The new FAQ</a></li> </ul> <h2>📣More Announcements📣</h2> <ul> <li>Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="nofollow">[email protected]</a> OR jump on over to the <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum" rel="nofollow">open forum on Lemmy</a></li> </ul> <h2>Feedback</h2> <h3>Mark from Saigon</h3> <p>Mark advocates for trying Snaps but understands they are not for everyone. He then dragged us into a merchandise tangent. Stay tuned for more on that.</p> <h3>Scott via Fireside</h3> <p>Scott uses Snaps on his Debian server. On the desktop he mostly sticks to Appimages and Flatpaks.</p> <h3>Dan from Matrix</h3> <p>Dan seldom uses Snaps and has them near the bottom of his ranking. The last one he remembers using is the Nextcloud snap on an Ubuntu server.</p> <h3>chraist also on Matrix</h3> <p>chraist uses Void and doesn't have Systemd therefore doesn't use Snaps. He asked if we thought there would ever be a Snap solution without Systemd.</p> <h3>bgt from Matrix</h3> <p>bgt says "meh, snaps aren't really that worth it to be honest. If there was no flatpak, sure, but like this, there's no need."</p> <h3>Marshman from Discord</h3> <p>Marshman thinks Snaps are a handy delivery method for proprietary applications.</p> <h2>🧹Housekeeping🧹</h2> <p>Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord.</p> <ul> <li>🗞️ Linux User Space <a href="https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show" rel="nofollow">Lemmy</a></li> <li>📰 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit" rel="nofollow">subreddit</a></li> <li>⌨️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/discord" rel="nofollow">Discord Server</a></li> <li>📲 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram" rel="nofollow">Telegram</a></li> <li>✉️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix" rel="nofollow">Matrix</a></li> <li>📽️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch" rel="nofollow">Twitch</a></li> <li>🐘 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon" rel="nofollow">Mastodon</a></li> <li>📜 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter" rel="nofollow">Twitter</a></li> <li>📺️ Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids" rel="nofollow">TILVids</a></li> <li>📱 Linux User Space <a href="https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky" rel="nofollow">Bluesky</a></li> </ul> <h2>🔭Next Time🔭</h2> <p><strong>We plan to cover the history of Flatpaks.</strong></p> <p><strong>Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements.</strong> </p> <p><strong>Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.</strong></p> <hr> <p>We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!</p> <h2>Producer</h2> <ul> <li>Bruno</li> <li>Dave</li> <li>John</li> <li>Johnny</li> <li>Visaggio & Co</li> </ul> <h3>Co-Producer</h3> <ul> <li>--verbose</li> <li>MarshMan</li> <li>GrouchyM</li> <li>Pjol</li> <li>Tim</li> </ul> <h4>Super User</h4> <ul> <li>A.J.</li> <li>Advait</li> <li>Backshift6090</li> <li>CubicleNate</li> <li>Eduardo S.</li> <li>FrozenGorilla</li> <li>Hausken</li> <li>Jeff3ix</li> <li>Jefferson</li> <li>Jill and Steve</li> <li>Larry</li> <li>LiNuXsys666</li> <li>Livet</li> <li>Musical Coder</li> <li>Mick</li> <li>Nicholas</li> <li>Rotted Mood</li> <li>sleepyeyesvince</li> <li>The Saigoneer</li> </ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace">Support Linux User Space</a></p>
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