In their dumbest podcast idea to date, Ben & Matt will alternate between the critically panned live-action Transformers movies and the critically acclaimed Transformers comic books by James Roberts until they finish or have a breakdown. Maybe both!

More (And Less!) Than Meets the Eye
Claim This Podcastby Matt Waters & Ben Phillips
Podcast Overview
In their dumbest podcast idea to date, Ben & Matt will alternate between the critically panned live-action Transformers movies and the critically acclaimed Transformers comic books by James Roberts until they finish or have a breakdown. Maybe both!
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6/7/2023
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Recent Episodes

September 27, 2023
Lost Light: Cancelled Plans & Alternate Ending
<p>On the day of their interview with James Roberts, Matt discovered he'd been sitting on a goldmine of juicy secrets concerning original plans for <strong>Lost Light</strong>. With James' blessing, we're breaking them down now.</p><p>From minor tidbits to major revelations, we pull back the curtain a little on what might have been had Lost Light not been cut short. Plus some of our own speculation of course. </p><p>If this whets your appetite, make sure to pick up the final volumes of James' notebooks in 2024, which will go into even greater detail.</p><p>And that's it! Podcast over. Thank you for joining us for our Transformers journey. If you'd like to keep listening to our podcasts hijinks, make sure to subscribe to <strong>Untitled BoJack Horseman Project, </strong>available everywhere you get podcasts NOW.</p><p><strong>Outro Music</strong>: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks</p>

September 20, 2023
Interview with James Roberts
<p>After dissecting his books for 14 weeks, Ben & Matt had the privilege of sitting down with James Roberts to discuss all things More Than Meets The Eye/Lost Light.</p><p>From the origins of his Transformers fandom (and how it differs from Ben & Matt's!), to his influences when building the cast, to incredibly specific questions about Mnemosurgery and Empurata, we tried to cover as much ground as possible in an hour. Don't worry, we made sure to ask 'Why do you hate Beast Wars, James?!?'</p><p><br></p><p>Please consider checking out some of our other work (<strong>Ben & Matt's Marvellous Journey</strong> and <strong>There Will Be Movies</strong>), available everywhere you get your podcasts, and don't miss out on your chance to order Volumes 3 and 4 of James' notebooks for an even deeper look behind the curtain on these comics by checking his social media.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Outro Music</strong>: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks</p>

September 13, 2023
Lost Light: Issues 13-25
<p>Just because the crew of the Lost Light appear to be dead, doesn't mean this is the end! Death? Sparkeaters? Infinites? An Evil Alliance of Past Foes? A Planet-Sized Transformer? Unknowable Ancient Beings Trying to Eat the Universe? Pfft. How about a challenge next time?!?</p><p>It's also NOT the end of this podcast, as next week we will be joined by James Roberts himself to answer some of our burning questions about his run on the books.</p>
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