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Out of the Archives is the National Public Housing Museum’s oral history-based podcast created from interviews with public housing residents from across the United States. You can also listen to our mini-series, Legally Stolen, which focuses on the legal theft of wealth from Black residents in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood through land sale contracts. Our podcasts are published under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 4.0 International license. Photo by Jack Delano (1942), Courtesy of the Library of Congress, Prints & Photographs Division, https://www.loc.gov/item/2017828879/

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December 22, 2025

'How can we make it livable for all?' Housing Justice is Environmental Justice

<p>Demolition and displacement are a part of environmental injustice and the climate crisis. With that in mind, how do we remember and center the needs of the land and the wishes of the residents when it comes to decision making for public housing? Two neighbors from New York and Miami weigh in. We hope these stories empower us towards a world that centers living beings and lived experience.</p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGk8S1WV6mix-mU5Z10BCWHVaAah13u91rPn0sESGJs/edit?tab=t.0" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Episode transcript here. </a></p><p><br></p><p>Narrators: <a href="https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/c/williams-anna" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Anna Williams</a> and <a href="https://nphm.aviaryplatform.com/c/keitt-renee" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Renee Keitt</a>. </p><p>Additional featured audio excerpts from <a href="https://www.razinglibertysquare.org/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Razing Liberty Square</a> (Katja Esson, 2023) and <a href="https://www.natashaflorentino.com/ahwff" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">A Home Worth Fighting For</a> (Natasha Florentino, 2025).</p><p>Ms. Williams’s interview is also curated in episode 25. </p><p><br></p><p>Sources and additional reading/watching:</p><p><strong>We strongly encourage those interested in these resident campaigns to support the two documentaries at the top of the list. You can purchase a viewing pass to </strong><strong>Razing Liberty Square </strong><strong>or sign up for Natasha Florentino’s future screenings mailing list at the links below. This support goes a long way!</strong></p><ul><li>Katja Esson, Razing Liberty Square (2023), published by Women Make Movies, organizations can buy or book a screening at: <a href="https://www.wmm.com/catalog/film/razing-liberty-square/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.wmm.com/catalog/film/razing-liberty-square/</a>. Individuals can watch on PBS here: <a href="https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/razing-liberty-square/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/razing-liberty-square/</a> </li><li>Natasha Florentino, A Home Worth Fighting For (2025), accessed via filmmaker. More information about future screenings at: <a href="https://www.natashaflorentino.com/ahwff" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.natashaflorentino.com/ahwff</a>. </li><li>T.C. Documentaries, “Overtown, Miami (Short History of South Florida&#39;s Overtown Neighborhood),” accessed at: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6_INnChIM" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6_INnChIM</a> </li><li>Digital Scholarship Lab at University of Richmond, “Renewing Inequality: Urban Renewal, Family Displacements, and Race 1950-1966,” published by American Panorama (20, ed. Robert K. Nelson and Edward L. Ayers), accessed at: <a href="https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/renewal/#view=0/0/1&viz=cartogram&text=defining" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/renewal/#view=0/0/1&amp;viz=cartogram&amp;text=defining</a></li><li>Terry Gross, “A ‘Forgotten History’ of How the U.S. Government Segregated America” (2017), published by NPR, accessed at: <a href="https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america</a> </li><li>United States of America 81st Congress, “Housing Act of 1949” (1949, last amended 2024), accessed at: <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10349/pdf/COMPS-10349.pdf" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-10349/pdf/COMPS-10349.pdf</a> </li><li>T.R. Witcher, “How the interstate highway system connected—and in some cases segregated—America,” published by American Society of Civil Engineers (2021), accessed at: <a href="https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/article/2021/07/how-the-interstate-highway-system-connected--and-in-some-cases-segregated--america" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/article/2021/07/how-the-interstate-highway-system-connected--and-in-some-cases-segregated--america</a> </li><li>Congress for the New Urbanism, “Overtown Expressway,” accessed at: <a href="https://www.cnu.org/what-we-do/build-great-places/overtown-expressway" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.cnu.org/what-we-do/build-great-places/overtown-expressway</a></li><li>Adam Paul Susaneck, “Segregation by Design—Miami: Overtown,” published by TU Delft Centre for the Just City (2024), accessed at: <a href="https://www.segregationbydesign.com/miami/overtown-overview" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.segregationbydesign.com/miami/overtown-overview</a> </li><li>New York City Housing Authority, Essence Development, Related Companies, and Housing Opportunities Unlimited, “Fulton Elliott-Chelsea Relocation Plan” (2025), accessed at: <a href="https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nycha/downloads/pdf/fec-relocation-english.pdf" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nycha/downloads/pdf/fec-relocation-english.pdf</a> </li><li>Damon WIlliams, Daniel Kisslinger, and People for Community Recovery, Help this Garden Grow, published by Respair Media, accessed at: <a href="https://www.respairmedia.com/help-this-garden-grow" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.respairmedia.com/help-this-garden-grow</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#publichousing #housingjustice #environmentaljustice #intersectionality #livedexperience #climatechange</p><p><br></p>

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August 21, 2025

OOTA Ep. 25 / 'We ate good!': How U.S. policy shaped sharing in public housing communities

<p>In this episode, seven public housing resident narrators recount stories about sharing in community and forced changes to their family structures, shaped by undercurrents of federal policies enacted during the 1950s–1980s that strictly governed what resources were available to whom. These stories touch on how the United States’ aggressive involvement in global affairs affect its residents at home and reveal deeper insights about how systemic changes affect each individual.</p><p><br></p><p>We encourage you to share this episode with a friend and discuss how sharing and governmental policies have impacted your communities.</p><p><br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lq3DAdSxRUPpqQq50GZR6On9-Bc1emOIC8BCZ8hkdIw/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.vvpiaqxn5t3i" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Episode transcript here</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about the history and policies discussed in this episode, check out our full sources and additional readings list: </p><ul><li><p>Nicholas Lemann, “Four Generations in the Projects,” The New York Times (January 13, 1991, Section 6, page 17), accessed at: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/13/magazine/four-generations-in-the-projects.html"><u>https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/13/magazine/four-generations-in-the-projects.html</u></a> </p></li><li><p>Natalie Y. Moore, with research by Beauty Turner, “The Good Ol Days,” The Chicago Reporter (September 26, 2007), accessed at: <a href="https://www.chicagoreporter.com/good-ol-days/"><u>https://www.chicagoreporter.com/good-ol-days/</u></a>. </p></li><li><p>Alison Lefkovitz, “Men in the House: Race, Welfare, and the Regulation of Men’s Sexuality in the United States, 1961–1972,” Journal of the History of Sexuality 20, no. 3 (2011): 594–614, accessed at: <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/41305886"><u>http://www.jstor.org/stable/41305886</u></a>.</p></li><li><p>Rahim Kurwa, National Low Income Housing Coalition, “Study Examines ‘Man in the House’ Rules in the Voucher Program, Housing Policy Debate (August 24, 2020) accessed at: <a href="https://nlihc.org/resource/study-examines-man-house-rules-voucher-program"><u>https://nlihc.org/resource/study-examines-man-house-rules-voucher-program</u></a> </p></li><li><p>Nestle, Marion. “The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP): History, Politics, and Public Health Implications.” American Journal of Public Health 109, no. 12 (2019): 1631-1635, accessed at: <a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305361"><u>https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305361</u></a> </p></li><li><p>Hortense J. Spillers, “Mama’s Baby, Papa’s Maybe: an american grammar book”  (1987), Diacritics 17, no. 2 (Summer 1987): pp. 64-81, accessed at: <a href="https://www.mcgill.ca/english/files/english/spillers_mamas_baby.pdf"><u>https://www.mcgill.ca/english/files/english/spillers_mamas_baby.pdf</u></a> or <a href="https://doi.org/10.2307/464747"><u>https://doi.org/10.2307/464747</u></a><u> </u>.</p></li><li><p>Gregory Acs, Kenneth Braswell, Elaine Sorensen, and Margery Austin Turner, “The Moynihan Report Revisited, published by Urban Institute, Open Society Foundations, and Fathers Incorporated (June 2013), accessed at: <a href="https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/23696/412839-The-Moynihan-Report-Revisited.PDF"><u>https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/23696/412839-The-Moynihan-Report-Revisited.PDF</u></a> </p></li></ul><li><ul><li>Daniel Geary, “The Moynihan Report: An Annotated Edition,” The Atlantic (September 2015), accessed at: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-moynihan-report-an-annotated-edition/404632/"><u>https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-moynihan-report-an-annotated-edition/404632/</u></a> </li></ul><ul><li>Daniel Patrick Moynihan, “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action,” Office of Policy Planning and Research, United States Department of Labor (March 1965), accessed at: <a href="https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Moynihan%27s%20The%20Negro%20Family.pdf"><u>https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Moynihan%27s%20The%20Negro%20Family.pdf</u></a>.</li></ul></li>

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March 28, 2025

OOTA Ep. 24 / ‘Beauty is Remembered’: A Mother’s Fight for Public Housing

<p>Who are the heroes of your neighborhood? In our latest episode of Out of the Archives, “Beauty is Remembered: A Mother’s Fight for Public Housing,” we honor the legacy of Ms. Beauty Turner, a mother, journalist, historian, and community activist who lived in Chicago’s Robert Taylor Homes for over a decade. Listen to Larry Turner, the son of Ms. Beauty, and other former Robert Taylor residents discuss the community’s complex and rich history, and share why neighborhood heroes like Beauty are critical to public housing communities.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yq2H2-EVkmrgxXLTBzBN-6tIw6krIcrs/view?usp=drive_link" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Click here to read the transcript.</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Content Notes: This episode discusses themes of death/dying, drug use, state-sanctioned displacement, and houselessness.</p><p>Sources and additional reading:</p><ul><li><p>Sundhir Venkatesh, Dislocation (2005): <a href="https://vimeo.com/505211639" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/505211639</a> </p></li><li><p>Flavian Prince and Daniel Rudin, Interrupt the Pipeline (2009): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOJ8om06PU4" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOJ8om06PU4</a> </p></li><li><p>Nuri Medina II, Englewood Enterprise Gallery Dec. 6, 2017 Show, Chicago Access Network Television (2017): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ksh7OHUjY" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ksh7OHUjY</a> </p></li><li><p>Beauty Turner, “GHETTO Bus Tour” (2007, Associated Press Archive): <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoTEH3ya2Y" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKoTEH3ya2Y</a> </p></li><li><p>Mick Dumke, “Chicago Claims Its 22-Year ‘Transformation’ Plan Revitalized 25,000 Homes. The Math Doesn't Add Up” (2002, ProPublica); Accessed: <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-housing-authority-hud-transformation-plan" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-housing-authority-hud-transformation-plan</a> </p></li><li><p>When the Market Isn’t an Option Zine Vol. II &amp; III: “Public Housing Disinvestment” and “Public Housing Deterioration” (2021–2022, National Public Housing Museum): <a href="https://nphm.org/listen/activating-the-archive/when-the-market-isnt-an-option-zine-series/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nphm.org/listen/activating-the-archive/when-the-market-isnt-an-option-zine-series</a></p></li><li><p>Beauty Turner’s Blog: <a href="https://beautysghettobustours.blogspot.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://beautysghettobustours.blogspot.com/</a> </p></li><li><p>Samantha Chatman and Maggie Green, “Chicago affordable housing wait can take years as city, CHA face severe shortage,” (May 2023, ABC 7 Chicago), accessed: <a href="https://abc7chicago.com/affordable-housing-chicago-cha-section-8-portal/13232375/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://abc7chicago.com/affordable-housing-chicago-cha-section-8-portal/13232375/</a> </p></li><li><p>D. B. Hunt (2001). “What went wrong with public housing in chicago? A history of the Robert Taylor Homes”. Journal of the Illinois State Historical Society, 94(1), 96. Retrieved from: <a href="https://flagship.luc.edu/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/scholarly-journals/what-went-wrong-with-public-housing-chicago/docview/232489901/se-2" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://flagship.luc.edu/login?url=https://www.proquest.com/scholarly-journals/what-went-wrong-with-public-housing-chicago/docview/232489901/se-2</a> </p></li><li><p>Kenya Barbara,”The Plan for Transformation: How a plan with lofty goals has underperformed and forever changed public housing in Chicago,” Public Interest Law Reporter vol. 24 (2018). Accessed at: <a href="https://lawecommons.luc.edu/pilr/vol24/iss1/13" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lawecommons.luc.edu/pilr/vol24/iss1/13</a>.  </p></li><li><p>Chicago Housing Authority, Annual Comprehensive Financial Report, Fiscal Year 2023, accessed at: <a href="https://www.thecha.org/sites/default/files/2024-11/2023AnnualComprehensiveFinancialReport_12.23_BudgetandFinance.pdf" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.thecha.org/sites/default/files/2024-11/2023AnnualComprehensiveFinancialReport_12.23_BudgetandFinance.pdf</a> </p></li><li><p>Dan Baum, “Legalize It All: How to win the war on drugs,” Harper’s Magazine (April 2016), accessed at: <a href="https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all</a></p></li><li><p>“City of Chicago 2024 Point-in-Time Count and Survey Report of People Experiencing Homelessness,” prepared by the Nathalie P. Voorhees Center for Neighborhood &amp; Community Improvement, University of Illinois Chicago, oversight by the Department of Family and Support Services, accessed at: <a href="https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/fss/supp_info/Homeless/2024-Homeless-Point-In-Time-Count-Report/2024_PIT_Report_FINAL.pdf" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/fss/supp_info/Homeless/2024-Homeless-Point-In-Time-Count-Report/2024_PIT_Report_FINAL.pdf</a><br /></p></li></ul>

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What is National Public Housing Museum (NPHM) Podcasts?

Out of the Archives is the National Public Housing Museum’s oral history-based podcast created from interviews with public housing residents from across the United States.

You can also listen to our mini-series, Legally Stolen, which focuses on the legal theft of wealth from Black residents in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood through land sale contracts.

Our podcasts are published under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial 4.0 International license. Photo by Jack Delano (1942), Courtesy of the Library of Congress, Prints & Photographs Division, https://www.loc.gov/item/2017828879/

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