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Navigating Change is a platform for understanding the complex and uncertain waters of change in higher education. Each week, Howard Teibel, Pete Wright, and guests dissect issues facing institutions and teams in transition and offer solutions for the most troubling process challenges
Imposter Syndrome: The Unspoken Presence in Leadership with Mary Herbert and Dr. Giselle Flores Martin
One of the women Dr. Giselle Flores Martin interviewed for her doctoral research had founded a company that grew to more than $22 million a year. She'd been featured in Forbes and had won several awards. She still didn't consider herself successful. It's the kind of thing people keep to themselves. "We're really good at hiding it," Giselle says.
If someone with that record can't see it, some of the people on your team probably can't see theirs either, and you likely don't know which ones. They might be the ones who turn down the stretch assignment, or the ones still working late on something that was good enough a week ago. Mary Herbert has seen both patterns many times, and she thinks they split along lines most leaders never notice.
Giselle and Mary brought this conversation to a packed room at WACUBO this spring, and people wanted more. Here they pick it up again, with Giselle drawing on her research into women in senior leadership and Mary on her work coaching leaders at every level through uncertainty and growth. They keep coming back to a question worth bringing into your next one-on-one: what would it take for the people on your team to see what you already see in them?
Links & Notes
Mary Herbert (https://teibelinc.com/about-mary-herbert) — Principal Leadership Consultant and Coach, Teibel Education Consulting
Dr. Giselle Flores Martin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/giselle-flores-martin-ed-d-mpa-hsa-526b74a/) on LinkedIn
Women in Senior Leadership Roles: Career Mobility, Challenges, Success Stories and Need for Future Research (https://repository.usfca.edu/diss/658/)— Giselle Flores Martin, Ed.D., University of San Francisco, 2022
The Imposter Phenomenon in High Achieving Women: Dynamics and Therapeutic Intervention (https://paulineroseclance.com/pdf/ip_high_achieving_women.pdf) — Pauline Rose Clance and Suzanne Imes, 1978
22 Sept 2026
Bradley Olin on Mentorship, Courage, and the WACUBO Mentor Program
We build strategic plans for our institutions — multi-year, carefully aligned, revisited every quarter. Almost none of us build one for ourselves. That gap is where good mentoring lives, and it's where Bradley Olin spent the past year as a mentor in the WACUBO Mentor Program.
The idea Bradley keeps circling is bracing in its generosity: you can't want someone's growth more than they want it themselves. It can sound like defeat. He treats it as the real skill — learning to tell the person who is only waiting for someone to convince her she's ready from the person who genuinely doesn't want the next thing, and offering the first not a shove but the nerve to step. He and Howard get into why the technician who excels rarely becomes the manager who thrives, why transparency beats the false comfort of certainty, and how a finance officer taught himself to stop scripting his presentations and start trusting the room.
It's a short conversation caught almost by accident at the WACUBO Annual Meeting, hours after a momentous morning in Bradley's own life. Its through-line outlasts any single career move: change is emotional long before it is operational, and you can't project-manage your way through the unknown. You can only know your own values, leave room, and find the nerve to begin.
Links & Notes
WACUBO Mentoring Program (https://www.wacubo.org/mentoring-program) — the year-long program Bradley mentored in, for aspiring CBOs and CFOs in higher ed
What Got You Here Won’t Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith (https://www.marshallgoldsmith.com/books) — the book Bradley credits for the technician-to-manager reframe
“Higher Ed’s New Crisis Managers,” Lee Gardner, (https://www.chronicle.com/article/higher-eds-new-crisis-managers)The Chronicle of Higher Education — the piece on the rise of interim CFOs that Howard references
Toastmasters International (https://www.toastmasters.org/) — where Bradley found his footing as a speaker before starting a club at his institution
Bradley Olin on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradleyolin/) — guest
24 Jun 2026
A Safe Place to Grow and Take Risks: Robyn Pennington and Lori Seager on Volunteer Leadership at WACUBO
Robyn Pennington and Lori Seager discuss volunteer leadership at WACUBO with Howard Teibel, reframing succession and highlighting a community for growth and risk-taking.
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