Negotiating the Ocean

About Negotiating the Ocean

Negotiating the Ocean, an Ocean Equity podcast by ANCORS, peeks below the surface of international ocean governance. We take you behind the scenes of global talks on biodiversity, fisheries and deep-sea mining and ask the big questions around equity and social justice. This podcast enables a more inclusive understanding for those who can’t attend international meetings and provides vital information for new diplomats, NGOs and ocean researchers. This is your audio guide to navigate these high seas negotiations, brought to you by the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security.

Publisher

ANCORS

Category

news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

18 Mar 2025

Latest episode

16 Mar 2026

Latest episodes

18 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   16 Mar 2026

   4) Navigating the Voyage Ahead: Treaty Implementation

   Episode 4 covers practical considerations on how the Part on Marine Genetic Resources of the BBNJ Agreement can be implemented. Experts share experiences from ratification processes in their countries, considerations in relation to Intellectual Property Rights for the transfer of Marine Technology, an update on current discussions around the standardised batch identifier, ideas how to enhance interoperability of databases and systems, and the role of the Committees under the BBNJ agreement to deal with issues of Access and Benefit Sharing, as well as Capacity Building and the Transfer of Marine Technology. Guests Fran Humphries is an Associate Professor at Griffith University, Australia, specialising in biodiversity law, law of the sea and intellectual property. She has led large projects on governance of genetic resources, digital sequence information and associated traditional knowledge for governments, NGOs and United Nations organisations. She was on the International Council of Environmental Law delegation during the BBNJ treaty intergovernmental conferences and preparatory commission meetings. She recently led an open access practical guide and commentary on the BBNJ Agreement's marine genetic resource obligations (see further ready below). Abbe Brown is Professor of Intellectual Property Law at the University of Aberdeen, specializing in IP’s intersection with other legal fields to address societal challenges. She served as BILETA Chair (2021–2024) and NERC Senior Expert (2021–2023), and was elected Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh (2025). With nearly 10 years in legal practice (London, Melbourne, Edinburgh), Abbe maintains strong professional and industry ties. She contributes to BBNJ negotiations with Chemistry colleagues and the IUCN, co-developed Song of the Ocean, and led intergenerational public engagement events (e.g., Tall Ships Aberdeen, 2025). Abbe has participated in UNFCCC COP26, the WIPO Diplomatic Conference on Genetic Resources (2024), and serves on the UN Regular Process Expert Pool for the World Ocean Assessment and the WMU MGR Scientific Advisory Committee. Lowri Mai Griffiths is a senior legal and policy leader with over 20 years’ experience shaping the UK’s international approach to ocean governance. As Head of the Ocean Policy Unit at the Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, she led the UK’s implementation of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and served as Head of Delegation for the negotiation of the BBNJ Agreement. Lowri works at the intersection of law, science, policy and international cooperation, with a long‑standing commitment to evidence‑based policymaking and sustainable ocean governance. Richard Tur de la Concepcion serves as a Cuban delegate to the BBNJ process. Among his notable achievements is his role as coordinator of the Group of 77 and China in the Fifth Committee during 2023, under Cuba’s presidency of the Group. During that period, he was recognized for his leadership and initiatives aimed at enhancing the efficiency and impact of the United Nations. Co-production Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki - Postdoctoral research Fellow, ANCORS Jennifer Macey⁠ - Journalist & PhD Candidate, University of Wollongong Fran Humphries - Associate Professor in Environmental Law, Griffith University Law School Amelia Westmoreland - Scientific Researcher for 3Bio & Engagement Strategist Marcel Jaspars - Professor of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen Abbe Brown - Professor in Intellectual Property Law, University of Aberdeen Editing Bettina Otterbeck - Freelance Video Editor Communications Sunnefa Yeatman - PhD Candidate, ANCORS Further reading See Chapters 9, 10, 12, and 13 in Humphries, F. (ed.) (2025), Decoding Marine Genetic Resource Governance under the BBNJ Agreement (Springer) https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7

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   9 Mar 2026

   3) Anchoring the Framework: Interaction between Treaty Systems

   Episode 3 of the mini-series explores the role and future design of the treaty’s Clearing-House Mechanism (CHM). The episode examines why this mechanism is needed and what will be required to establish it effectively. Discussion focuses on how the CHM could connect with existing gene banks, repositories, databases to facilitate information sharing on marine genetic resources. The conversation also highlights the potential role of the CHM as a “match-maker” between capacity needs and capacity-building opportunities. In addition, the episode considers how traditional knowledge of Indigenous Peoples and local communities may be recognised and protected within the system, and reflects on related debates in other international fora where access and benefit sharing remains a central governance issue. Guests Marcel Jaspars is Professor of Organic Chemistry at the University of Aberdeen where he leads the Marine Biodiscovery Centre which focuses on marine resources for novel pharmaceuticals, and to investigate fundamental questions in marine chemical ecology and biosynthesis. Marcel has been active at national and international levels to develop the science, its applications/industrial uptake and associated policy involved in marine biodiscovery and biotechnology. He provides scientific advice to the UK, EU and UN for global policy processes on ocean conservation and digital sequence information via reports, papers and taking part in discussion meetings. Amber Hartman Scholz is a microbiologist and Head of the Science Policy & Internationalization Department at the Leibniz Institute DSMZ in Braunschweig, Germany. She leads international science policy research with an emphasis on access and benefit sharing and digital sequence information. She co-founded the DSI Scientific Network and the German Nagoya Protocol Hub and is engaged leads Observer delegations under the Convention on Biological Diversity, the World Health Organization, the High Seas Treaty and the FAO Plant Treaty. She held previous science policy posts in the California State Senate and the White House Office of Science & Technology Policy during the Obama administration. She holds a PhD in Biology from the Johns Hopkins University. Julia Schutz Veiga is a consultant in ocean governance and the law of the sea, with recognised expertise in the BBNJ Agreement and marine technology transfer. Her research examines how international legal architectures distribute power, access, and benefits in the global ocean, with particular attention to equity-oriented implementation and the interface between legal design and practice. Vanessa Paloma Lopes is an early career scientist and recent graduate of Boston University, with a Master of Science degree in Marine Biology. Vanessa is a member of the Deep Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction working group. Her research interests include a focus on enabling capacity building for early career scientists in SIDS and identifying challenges and options for sustainable development and conservation of the Oceans in Cabo Verde. Co-producers Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki - Postdoctoral Research Fellow, ANCORS Jennifer Macey - Journalist & PhD Candidate, University of Wollongong Fran Humphries - Associate Professor in Environmental Law, Griffith University Law School Amelia Westmoreland - Scientific Researcher for 3Bio & Engagement Strategist Marcel Jaspars - Professor of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen Abbe Brown - Professor in Intellectual Property Law, University of Aberdeen Editing: Bettina Otterbeck - Freelance Video Editor Communications: Sunnefa Yeatman - PhD Candidate, ANCORS Further readingHumphries, F. (ed.) (2025). Decoding Marine Genetic Resource Governance under the BBNJ Agreement (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7#toc) (Springer): Chapter 8 (on TK) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_8) Chapter 9 (on Intellectual Property Rights) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_9) Chapter 11 (Interlinkages with other bodies) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_11) BBNJ Agreement & Official Website (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/bbnj-agreement/text-bbnj-agreement)

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   2 Mar 2026

   2) The Ship has Reached the Shore’: Sharing Ocean Heritage & Wealth

   Episode 2 goes from the negotiation room into the text of the treaty – to unpick what access and benefit sharing of Marine Genetic Resources really means. We explore what the treaty means in practice for scientists and commercial end users, what the provisions hold for Indigenous Peoples and local communities, and the relevance for future generations. Guests Thomas Vanagt holds a PhD in Science from the University of Ghent and is the founder of ABSint, now part of 3BIO, a multidisciplinary company specialising in the valorisation of biotechnology R&D. With over two decades of experience at the interface of marine science, policy, and innovation, he has advised multinational companies as well as leading research institutes such as KU Leuven and VIB. Vanagt provides high-level policy guidance to the European Commission (DG ENV, DG MARE) and to several States and regional groups in the United Nations negotiations on BBNJ. His work focuses on access and benefit-sharing, marine genetic resources, and enabling practical pathways for equitable and sustainable research.” Angelique Pouponneau is a Seychellois lawyer and ocean advocate who serves as Lead Negotiator for the Alliance of Small Island States on ocean issues. She has been engaged in the BBNJ negotiations since 2018, representing both Seychelles and AOSIS. With a PhD and LLM in Environmental Law and more than a decade of experience as a practitioner across small island developing States in the Caribbean, Pacific, and Indian Ocean, she brings deep expertise in ocean governance and climate action. Previously, Angelique served as CEO of the Seychelles Conservation and Climate Adaptation Trust and as Chief of Staff to the UN Secretary-General's Climate Action Team. Elisa Morgera is Professor of International Law and Sustainability at the University of Durham, UK and Professor of International and EU Environmental Law at the University of Eastern Finland. She is the UN Special Rapporteur on Climate Change and Human Rights. Zakieh Taghizadeh is a legal scholar specializing in international environmental law, ocean governance, intellectual property, and human rights. She actively participated in the Intergovernmental Conference (IGC) PrepCom negotiations that led to the adoption of the BBNJ Agreement. Her direct involvement in the BBNJ process as a legal researcher and practitioner, has shaped her research on the conservation of marine genetic resources, asymmetries in intergenerational and intra-generational equity, law of the sea and intellectual property treaty-making processes, and the normative evolution of global environmental governance. Co-Producers Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki - Postdoctoral research Fellow, ANCORS Jennifer Macey⁠ - Journalist & PhD Candidate, University of Wollongong Fran Humphries - Associate Professor in Environmental Law, Griffith University Law School Amelia Westmoreland - Scientific Researcher for 3Bio & Engagement Strategist Marcel Jaspars - Professor of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen Abbe Brown - Professor in Intellectual Property Law, University of Aberdeen Editing Bettina Otterbeck - Freelance Video Editor Communications Sunnefa Yeatman - PhD Candidate, ANCORS Further readingHumphries, F. (ed.) (2025). Decoding Marine Genetic Resource Governance under the BBNJ Agreement (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7#toc) (Springer) Chapter 5 (BBNJ Notification System) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_5) Chapter 6 (Monetary & Non-monetary benefits) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_6) Chapter 7 (Monitoring & Transparency) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_7) Chapter 8 (TK) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_8) Chapter 14 (Scientists & Commercial End Users) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_14) Chapter 15 (Equity) (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_15) BBNJ Agreement & Official Website (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/bbnj-agreement/text-bbnj-agreement)

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   24 Feb 2026

   1 ) Setting Sail: Negotiating the Treaty

   About the podcast mini-seriesThis four-part podcast mini-series explores the governance of marine genetic resources (MGRs) under the BBNJ Agreement, moving beyond implementation challenges to unpack the treaty’s groundbreaking provisions for areas beyond national jurisdiction (ABNJ). Drawing on insights from legal experts, scientists, treaty negotiators, Indigenous knowledge holders, policymakers, and commercial users, the series highlights diverse perspectives on equity, data governance, intellectual property, and institutional design. Episode 1 introduces how MGRs became a central and contested issue in the BBNJ Agreement negotiations. It explains the key political compromises reached, the balance between access and benefit-sharing, and why these provisions are pivotal for the Agreement’s implementation. Guests Luciana Fernandes Coelho, international consultant in law of the sea and ocean governance and Visiting Fellow of the Ocean Voices Programme, University of Edinburgh, UK. She holds a PhD in Maritime Affairs from the World Maritime University. She has experience as a Research Fellow at the Stockholm Environmental Institute, Programme Coordinator for the DOALOS/Norad Programmes of Assistance, and advocacy analyst for Oceana, Brazil. She served as legal adviser for DOSI and the Brazilian delegations in the BBNJ negotiations. Daniel Kachelriess is an expert on oceans, fisheries, wildlife law and policy and followed the negotiations of the BBNJ Agreement as part of the High Seas Alliance and as a member of the IUCN World Commission on Environmental Law. He serves as High Seas Alliance cross-cutting coordinator. His previous roles include Executive Director of a non-profit law firm, and the Marine Species Officer of the CITES Secretariat. Konrad Marciniak is a Judge of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea. He represented Poland in numerous international fora and was closely involved in all stages of the negotiations of the BBNJ Agreement, serving as Head of the Polish delegation, member of the EU negotiating team on marine genetic resources, and member of the IGC Bureau. He holds a Ph.D. on the legal status of marine genetic resources. Joan Yang has been working on UN and Multilateral oceans issues since 2006 - which has included following the BBNJ process in all its iterations since 2006 and through the IGC she served as the PSIDS coordinator on cross-cutting issues. Joan was also part of the Pacific team which secured the SDG on the Ocean as well as the KMGBF, including target 3. She is currently an advisor to the Vanuatu Mission in the UN who is the PSIDS coordinator on the Clearinghouse Mechanism. Tamara Thomas is Executive Director of Ocean Ties and Ocean Advisor to the IUCN, with over 15 years of experience across major ocean and climate fora, including the CBD, the UNFCCC, and the BBNJ process. She has previously served as Director of International Ocean Policy at Conservation International, Ocean Policy Advisor at The Nature Conservancy, and Advisor to the Chair of the UN Preparatory Committee for BBNJ. Co-producers: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki) - Postdoctoral research Fellow, ANCORS Jennifer Macey (https://jennifermacey.pressfolios.com/) - Journalist & PhD Candidate, University of Wollongong Fran Humphries - Associate Professor in Environmental Law, Griffith University Law School Amelia Westmoreland - Chemist and Market Researcher at 3Bio Marcel Jaspars - Professor of Chemistry, University of Aberdeen Abbe Brown - Professor in Intellectual Property Law, University of Aberdeen Editing: Bettina Otterbeck - Freelance Video Editor Communications: Sunnefa Yeatman (https://oceanequityresearch.org/people/sunnefa-yeatman/) - PhD Candidate, ANCORS Further readingHumphries, F. (2025). Decoding Marine Genetic Resource Governance Under the BBNJ Agreement (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7) (1st ed. 2025.). Cham, Switzerland: Springer. Chapter 1 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_1) Chapter 2 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_2) Chapter 3 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_3) Chapter 4 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_4) BBNJ Agreement Text & Official BBNJ Website (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/bbnj-agreement/text-bbnj-agreement)

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   6 Feb 2026

   Episode 13 - Capacity Building and the Transfer of Marine Technology

   A new Ocean Agreement has entered into force to conserve and sustainably use the ocean globally. Given the imbalance of scientific, technical and financial capacity across countries to use the world’s ocean, conduct marine scientific research in the deep sea and engage in maritime activities in areas beyond national jurisdiction, the new agreement seeks to change the status quo. With a dedicated part on Capacity building and the Transfer of Marine Technology, the imbalance is supposed to be addressed, and global implementation of the agreement’s objectives be facilitated. What falls under Capacity building in the context of the BBNJ Agreement? What is meant by the transfer of marine technology? How is this part crucial for the implementation of the new treaty? We hear from different “Ocean Voices” from Fellows of the Ocean Voices Program of the University of Edinburgh and dive deep into their different research and ocean equity aspects in the framework of the BBNJ Agreement. Guests: Harriet Harden-Davies Julia Schuetz-Veiga* Renee Lewinilovo Benit Mbiakolo Beatriz Naranjo Elizondo Maila Guilhon Hosts: ⁠Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki) & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠ (https://jennifermacey.com/) Sound design and editing: ⁠⁠Emily Perkins⁠⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: ⁠Sunnefa Yeatman⁠ (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sunnefa-Omarsdottir) For comments & feedback please contact: ⁠inatvw@uow.edu.au⁠ (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page ⁠https://oceanequityresearch.org/⁠ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong ⁠https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/⁠ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) Ocean Voices Program: https://ocean-voices.ed.ac.uk/ (https://ocean-voices.ed.ac.uk/) You can find capacity building initiatives and technical assistance for the BBNJ process on the United Nations Website: https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/capacity-building-and-technical-assistance/overview (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/capacity-building-and-technical-assistance/overview) Read on Capacity Building and the Transfer of Marine Technology Etuk Johnson, A., Harden-Davies, H. (2025). Capacity Building and Transfer of Marine Technology under the BBNJ Agreement: Key considerations for SIDS. Report for the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, University of Wollongong. https://oceanequityresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arianne-Etuk_Capacity-Building-and-Transfer-of-Marine-Technology-under-the-BBNJ-Agreement.pdf (https://oceanequityresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arianne-Etuk_Capacity-Building-and-Transfer-of-Marine-Technology-under-the-BBNJ-Agreement.pdf) Harden-Davies, H., Lopes, V.F., Coelho, L.F. et al. First to finish, what comes next? Putting Capacity Building and the Transfer of Marine Technology under the BBNJ Agreement into practice. npj Ocean Sustain 3, 3 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s44183-023-00039-1 (https://doi.org/10.1038/s44183-023-00039-1) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., Bateh, F., Gobin, J., Harden-Davies, H., Kyeremeh, K., & Schutz-Veiga, J. (2024). Next steps to implement the BBNJ Agreement through capacity building and technology transfer. Maripoldata. https://www.maripoldata.eu/next-steps-to-implement-the-bbnj-agreement-through-capacity-building-andtechnology-transfer/ (https://www.maripoldata.eu/next-steps-to-implement-the-bbnj-agreement-through-capacity-building-andtechnology-transfer/) Johannes, R. E. (1981). Words of the lagoon: fishingand marine lore in the Palau district of Micronesia. Univ of California Press. Know more & Research of the Ocean Voices Fellows Costa Rica Desconocida: https://costaricadesconocida.com/ (https://costaricadesconocida.com/) Guilhon, M, Xavier, LY, von Pogrell, L, Singh, P,Christiansen, S & Turra, A 2023, ‘Ecosystem-based Management through thelenses of International Seabed Authority stakeholders: current status,implications, and opportunities for the deep-sea mining regime in theArea’, Frontiers in Marine Science, vol. 10. Naranjo-Elizondo, B & Cortés, J 2018, ‘Observations ofLitter Deposited in the Deep Waters of Isla del Coco National Park, EasternTropical Pacific’, Frontiers in Marine Science, vol. 5. Harden-Davies, Harriet, and Júlia Schütz Veiga, 'PartV: Capacity-Building and the Transfer of Marine Technology', in Joanna Mossop, and David Freestone (eds), The Agreement on Marine Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction: Commentary and Analysis (2025; online edn, Oxford Law , https://doi.org/10.1093/law/9780198918578.003.0008 (https://doi.org/10.1093/law/9780198918578.003.0008), Meet Renee Lewenilovo (https://www.spc.int/updates/blog/dynamic-story/2025/09/early-career-ocean-professional-renee-the-ocean-voice-of) Meet Benit Mbiakolo (https://ocean-voices.ed.ac.uk/news/new-ocean-voices-fellow-benit-dorcas-davina-mbiakolo) * Julia Schuetz-Veiga is currently a Visiting Fellow at the Ocean Voices Program

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   1 Nov 2025

   Episode 12 - Ocean Cooperation: BBNJ & other IFBs

   Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki, Bianca Haas, and Jennifer Macey interview Darius Campbell, Dominic Pattinson, Bruno Pozzi, and Joe Appiott about ocean governance, exploring cooperation between organizations and lessons from existing frameworks like NEAFC, OSPAR, ISA, and CBD.

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   30 Sept 2025

   Episode 11 - Children & Youth

   Co-hosts Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki and Jennifer Macey interview Charley Peebler, Chloe McKenna, Armon Alex, and Ishwarya Kandasamy about youth involvement in international ocean negotiations and opportunities for younger generations to shape ocean governance.

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   4 Aug 2025

   Episode 10 - Human Rights at Sea

   Rizky Octaviana, Bubba Cook, and Marcelo Hidalgo discuss human rights violations within the fishing industry, focusing on improving working conditions for crew on fishing vessels in this interview episode.

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   9 Jul 2025

   Episode 9 - Deep-Sea Mining

   Aline Jaeckel and Pradeep Singh discuss deep-sea mining regulations, the International Seabed Authority's role, and equitable benefit sharing in this interview with Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki and Jennifer Macey.

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    8 Jun 2025

    Episode 8 – The United Nations Ocean Conference

    Hosts Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki and Jennifer Macey discuss the United Nations Ocean Conference with guests Minna Epps, Fabienne McLennan, Pradeep Singh, and Maila Guilhon, exploring the ocean's importance and challenges.

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    13 May 2025

    Episode 7 - Tuna Fisheries II (Indian Ocean)

    Looking beyond the can - the importance of tuna fisheries Part 2: The Indian Ocean The Indian Ocean Tuna Commission manages the second most lucrative tuna fishery in the world. More than half of the tuna catches in the Indian Ocean come from small-scale fisheries, which are often characterised by a lack of data and information. Overall, the Indian Ocean faces many complex and unique challenges. In this episode, we talk to four experts from the region who have been actively engaged in shaping the Indian Ocean tuna fisheries. Guests: Adam Ziyad – Chair of the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission Dr Paul de Bruyn – Executive Secretary of the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission Umair Shahid – Indian Ocean Tuna manager for WWF Doreen Simiyu – Coordinator of the Indian Ocean Tuna Forum (SWIOTUNA) Hosts: Bianca Haas & Jennifer Macey Sound design and editing: Emily Perkins Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman For comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) Indian Ocean Tuna Commission Website https://iotc.org/ (https://iotc.org/) WWF Website https://www.wwf-swio.org/ (https://www.wwf-swio.org/) SWIOTUNA Website https://www.swiotuuna.org/ (https://www.swiotuuna.org/) Blog on the 29th IOTC meeting: https://oceanequityresearch.org/fisheries-governance-publications/insights-into-the-29th-annual-meeting-of-the-indian-ocean-tuna-commission/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/fisheries-governance-publications/insights-into-the-29th-annual-meeting-of-the-indian-ocean-tuna-commission/) Research on the Indian Ocean Tuna Commission by ANCORS researchers: Rambourg, C., Haas, B., & Colléter, M. (2025). The quiet voices of French territories in tuna fisheries management. Environmental Development, 55, 101162. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.envdev.2025.101162 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.envdev.2025.101162) Haas, B., Goodman, C., Sinan, H., Davis, R. (2023). Fact or fiction? Unpacking the terminologies used in fisheries allocation discussions. Marine Policy, 152, 105630. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105630 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105630) Davis, R., Hanich, Q., Haas, B., Cisneros-Montemayor, A., Azmi, K., Seto, K.L., et al. (2022). Who Gets the Catch? How Conventional Catch Attribution Frameworks Undermine Equity in Transboundary Fisheries. Frontiers in Marine Science. 9. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2022.831868 (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2022.831868)

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    30 Apr 2025

    Episode 6 - Tuna Fisheries (Western and Central Pacific Ocean)

    Looking beyond the can - the importance of tuna fisheries Part 1: The Western and Central Pacific Ocean The management of the tuna species is important for the livelihoods and food security of millions of people. This is especially true for the tuna caught in the Western and Central Pacific Ocean, which accounts for more than half of the global tuna catch. In this episode, we will hear from four experts who have dedicated their lives to ensuring that tuna fisheries in the Western and Central Pacific are managed sustainably. Guests: Professor Transform Aqorau – Vice Chancellor of the Solomon Islands National University Francisco Blaha – Fisheries Consultant Dr Josie Tamate – Chair of the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission Dr Rhea Moss-Christian – Executive Director of the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission Hosts: Bianca Haas & Jennifer Macey Sound design and editing: Emily Perkins Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman For comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission Website https://www.wcpfc.int/ (https://www.wcpfc.int/) Francisco Blaha’s Website https://www.franciscoblaha.info/ (https://www.franciscoblaha.info/) Parties of the Nauru Agreement (PNA) Website: https://www.pnatuna.com/ (https://www.pnatuna.com/) Research on the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission by ANCORS researchers: Haas, B., Azmi, K., & Davis, R. (2024). Pacific tuna update: 20th Meeting of the Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission. Marine Policy, 168, 106320. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2024.106320 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2024.106320) Goodman C., Davis, R., Azmi, K., Bell, J., Galland, G.R. Gilman, E., et al. (2022). Enhancing cooperative responses by regional fisheries management organisations to climate-driven redistribution of tropical Pacific tuna stocks. Frontiers in Marine Science, 9. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2022.1046018 (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2022.1046018) Azmi, K., & Hanich, Q. (2021). Mapping interests in the tuna fisheries of the Western and Central Pacific Ocean. Ocean & Coastal Management. 212, 105779. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ocecoaman.2021.105779 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ocecoaman.2021.105779) Hanich, Q., Jung, M., McDonald, A., Oh, S., Moon, S., An, J., & Yoon, M. (2021). Tuna Fisheries Conservation and Management in the Pacific Islands Region: Implications for Korean Distant Water Fisheries. Asia-Pacific Journal of Ocean Law and Policy. 6, 192-220. https://doi.org/10.1163/24519391-06020003 (https://doi.org/10.1163/24519391-06020003) Haas, B. (2020). Tuna management in action: assessing the contribution of the WCPFC to the SDGs. Australian Journal of Maritime & Ocean Affairs. 12, 42-47. https://doi.org/10.1080/18366503.2020.1726261 (https://doi.org/10.1080/18366503.2020.1726261)

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    21 Apr 2025

    Episode 5 - Marine Genetic Resources & Benefit Sharing

    Episode 5- Access and Benefit Sharing of Marine Genetic Resources Series on Stakeholders in BBNJ: PART 3 Scientist We don’t yet know what the deep sea holds – but what we know is that benefits need to be shared fairly and equitably. A new Ocean Treaty changes the status quo of access and benefit sharing of marine genetic resources (MGRs) of areas beyond national jurisdiction. Yet, many questions remain about the nitty-gritty details of implementation. What are marine genetic resources and their digital sequence information? How can benefits be shared fairly and equitably? What are the most urgent issues to negotiate in upcoming meetings of the United Nations? In this episode we meet Fran Humphries, Associate Professor at Griffith University, an expert on Access and Benefit Sharing of Marine Genetic resources. She guides us through ocean equity issues about sharing the genetic material of the deepest parts of the ocean. Guest: Associate Professor Fran Humphries Hosts: ⁠Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki) & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠ (https://jennifermacey.com/) Sound design and editing: ⁠⁠EmilyPerkins⁠⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: ⁠Sunnefa Yeatman⁠ (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sunnefa-Omarsdottir) For comments & feedback please contact: ⁠inatvw@uow.edu.au⁠ (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page ⁠https://oceanequityresearch.org/⁠ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong ⁠https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/⁠ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) You can find official documents in preparation for the First Preparatory Commission Meeting on the United Nations Website: ⁠https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session⁠ (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session) Research on Marine Genetic Resources: Humphries, F. (2025). Decoding Marine GeneticResource Governance Under the BBNJ Agreement (1st ed. 2025.). Springer Nature Switzerland. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7) Humphries, F. (2025). Marine Genetic Resources Beyond National Jurisdiction: The Expansive Scope of the BBNJ Agreement. In: Humphries, F. (eds) Decoding Marine Genetic Resource Governance Under the BBNJ Agreement. Sustainable Development Goals Series. Springer, Cham. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_3 (https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-72100-7_3) Research on the BBNJ process by ANCORS researchers: Kraabel, K. (2022). Institutional arrangements in a BBNJ treaty: Implications for Arctic marine science. Marine Policy, 142,103807-. ⁠https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2019.103807⁠ (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2019.103807) Lothian, S. (2023b). The BBNJ Agreement: Through the Prismof Deep-Sea Vulnerable Marine Ecosystems. Ocean Development and International Law, 54(4), 469–499. ⁠https://doi.org/10.1080/00908320.2023.2296400⁠ (https://doi.org/10.1080/00908320.2023.2296400) Lothian, S. (2022). Marine conservation and international law: legal instruments for biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2024).Pathways of scientific input into intergovernmental negotiations: a new agreement on marine biodiversity. International Environmental Agreements : Politics, Law and Economics, 24(2–3), 325–348. ⁠https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0⁠ (https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I. (2023). Science-policy interfaces for ocean protection: The case of the international negotiations for the conservation and sustainable use of marine biodiversity of areas beyond national jurisdiction (BBNJ). Doctoral Thesis. ⁠https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693⁠ (https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2022).Governing a Divided Ocean: The Transformative Power of Ecological Connectivity in the BBNJ Negotiations. Politics and Governance, 10(3), 14–28. ⁠https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428⁠ (https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2020). The Voice of Science on Marine Biodiversity Negotiations: A Systematic Literature Review. Frontiers in Marine Science, 7. ⁠https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282⁠ (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282) Vadrot, A. B. M., Langlet, A., & Tessnow-von Wysocki, I.(2021). Who owns marine biodiversity? Contesting the world order through the ‘common heritage of humankind’ principle. Environmental Politics, 31(2),226–250. https://doi.org/10.1080/09644016.2021.1911442 (https://doi.org/10.1080/09644016.2021.1911442)

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    14 Apr 2025

    Episode 4 - Civil Society

    Episode 4 – Civil Society Series on Stakeholders in BBNJ: PART 2 Civil Society It’s not just government delegations that participate in ocean negotiations. There are countless non-governmental organisations (NGOs) who observe and advise in the negotiations and support implementation.  These NGOs have real concerns about protecting marine biodiversity and increasingly campaign about ocean equity. What is the role of civil society in the BBNJ negotiations? Which new bodies will be established under the new agreement? How does the design of the committees carry implications for ocean equity? In this episode, we talk to civil society and meet Rebecca Hubbard, the director of the High Seas Alliance – a global Alliance of more than 60 NGOs and the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN). Guest: Rebecca Hubbard Hosts: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki) & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠ (https://jennifermacey.com/) Sound design and editing: ⁠Emily Perkins⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sunnefa-Omarsdottir) For comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) You can find official documents in preparation for the First Preparatory Commission Meeting on the United Nations Website: https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session) High Seas Alliance Website: https://highseasalliance.org/ (https://highseasalliance.org/) Research on the BBNJ process by ANCORS researchers: Lothian, S. (2023). The BBNJ preamble: More than just window dressing. Marine Policy, 153, 105642-. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642) Lothian, S. L. (2022). Marine conservation and international law: legal instruments for biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2024).Pathways of scientific input into intergovernmental negotiations: a new agreement on marine biodiversity. International Environmental Agreements : Politics, Law and Economics, 24(2–3),325–348. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0 (https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I. (2023). Science-policy interfaces for ocean protection: The case of the international negotiations for the conservation and sustainable use of marine biodiversity of areas beyond national jurisdiction (BBNJ). Doctoral Thesis. https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693 (https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2022). Governing a Divided Ocean: The Transformative Power of Ecological Connectivity in the BBNJ Negotiations. Politics and Governance, 10(3), 14–28. https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428 (https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2020). The Voice of Science on Marine Biodiversity Negotiations: A Systematic Literature Review. Frontiers in Marine Science, 7. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282 (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282)

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    11 Apr 2025

    Episode 3 - Small Island States

    Episode 3 – Small Island States Series on Stakeholders in BBNJ PART 1 : Small Island States Small Island States may be small when it comes to land – but are often big ocean states. They are particularly vulnerable, as they depend on the ocean for their livelihoods and are among the most affected by climate change. In the negotiations, they often form negotiating blocs to speak in one voice. Outcomes of negotiations for the new Ocean Treaty affect us all – but the direct impact of the treaty is especially felt in the case of Small Island States. What are challenges for Small Island States in the negotiations and implementation of the treaty? How will be ensured that they can shape new High Seas institutions in the long-term? And will the new ocean treaty shift power imbalances in ocean governance? In this episode we hear from Angelique Pouponneau, the lead negotiator of the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS) what ocean equity means for Small Island States. Guest: Angelique Pouponneau Hosts: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki and Jennifer Macey Sound design and editing: ⁠Emily Perkins⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sunnefa-Omarsdottir) For comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) You can find official documents in preparation for the First Preparatory Commission Meeting on the United Nations Website: https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session) Website of the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS): https://www.aosis.org/ (https://www.aosis.org/) Research on the BBNJ process by ANCORS researchers: Lothian, S. (2023). The BBNJ preamble: More than justwindow dressing. Marine Policy, 153, 105642-. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642) Lothian, S. L. (2022). Marine conservation and international law: legal instruments for biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2024).Pathways of scientific input into intergovernmental negotiations: a new agreement on marine biodiversity. International Environmental Agreements : Politics, Law and Economics, 24(2–3),325–348. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0 (https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I. (2023). Science-policy interfaces for ocean protection: The case of the international negotiations for the conservation and sustainable use of marine biodiversity of areas beyond national jurisdiction (BBNJ). Doctoral Thesis. https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693 (https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2022).Governing a Divided Ocean: The Transformative Power of Ecological Connectivity in the BBNJ Negotiations. Politics and Governance, 10(3), 14–28. https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428 (https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2020).The Voice of Science on Marine Biodiversity Negotiations: A Systematic Literature Review. Frontiers in Marine Science, 7. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282 (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282)

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    5 Apr 2025

    Episode 2 - A new Ocean Treaty

    After decades of negotiations and a 36 hour-long meeting at the United Nations in New York, countries from around the world agreed to a new Ocean treaty in 2023. The landmark treaty governs Biodiversity of Areas Beyond National Jurisdiction – what we call, BBNJ.  A big task: It does not only protect marine life in the High Seas, but also ensures that benefits are shared fairly and equitably amongst all. The high seas, beyond national borders, cover two-thirds of the surface and nearly 95 percent of the volume of the entire ocean. But the treaty has not yet been ratified into domestic law by the 60+ countries needed to make it legally binding. This episode explores what happens next and how decisions now have real implications for ocean equity. What is still left to negotiate after the treaty has been adopted? How can all voices be heard for decisions about international areas? And what needs to happen now for this Agreement to come into life? Join us and special guests Janine Felson and Adam McCarthy, the co-chairs of the Preparatory Commission for the entry into force of the BBNJ agreement. The episode is published ahead of the First Preparatory Commission meeting April 14-25, 2025, in New York. Guests: Janine Felson & Adam McCarthy Hosts: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki) & Jennifer Macey (https://jennifermacey.com/) Sound design and editing: ⁠Emily Perkins⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sunnefa-Omarsdottir) For comments & feedback please contact: inatvw@uow.edu.au (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au) Find out more: ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) You can find official documents in preparation for the First Preparatory Commission Meeting on the United Nations Website: https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session (https://www.un.org/bbnjagreement/en/meetings/preparatory-commission/documents/first-session) Research on the BBNJ process by ANCORS researchers: Dalaker, K. (2024). ‘A Commentary on the BBNJ Agreement Using the History of the Making of UNCLOS and Its Implementation Agreements’. Ocean Yearbook Online, vol. 38, no. 1, pp. 125-60. Kraabel, K. (2022). Institutional arrangements in a BBNJ treaty: Implications for Arctic marine science. Marine Policy, 142, 103807-. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2019.103807 (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2019.103807) Lothian, S. (2023a). The BBNJ preamble: More than just window dressing. Marine Policy, 153, 105642-. ⁠https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642⁠ (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2023.105642) Lothian, S. (2023b). The BBNJ Agreement: Through the Prism of Deep-Sea Vulnerable Marine Ecosystems. Ocean Development and International Law, 54(4), 469–499. https://doi.org/10.1080/00908320.2023.2296400 (https://doi.org/10.1080/00908320.2023.2296400) Lothian, S. (2022). Marine conservation and international law: legal instruments for biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction. Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group. Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2024). Pathways of scientific input into intergovernmental negotiations: a new agreement on marine biodiversity. International Environmental Agreements : Politics, Law and Economics, 24(2–3), 325–348. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0 (https://doi.org/10.1007/s10784-024-09642-0) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I. (2023). Science-policy interfaces for ocean protection: The case of the international negotiations for the conservation and sustainable use of marine biodiversity of areas beyond national jurisdiction (BBNJ). Doctoral Thesis. https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693 (https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1978693) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2022). Governing a Divided Ocean: The Transformative Power of Ecological Connectivity in the BBNJ Negotiations. Politics and Governance, 10(3), 14–28. https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428 (https://doi.org/10.17645/pag.v10i3.5428) Tessnow-von Wysocki, I., & Vadrot, A. B. M. (2020). The Voice of Science on Marine Biodiversity Negotiations: A Systematic Literature Review. Frontiers in Marine Science, 7. https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282 (https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2020.614282)

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    27 Mar 2025

    Episode 1 - Ocean Equity

    70 % of the Earth’s surface is Ocean. Beneath the surface lies a complex web of global governance. Who decides how to manage the ocean in a way that is fair and equitable to both the marine environment and humans who rely on the sea for their livelihoods? Episode 1 of ‘Negotiating the Ocean’ explores the idea of Ocean Equity and how it can be applied to the high-level international talks governing and managing the ocean and its resources. We meet ANCORS researchers who work on different aspects of Ocean Equity, including fisheries, climate change, pollution, deep sea mining, renewable energy, and more. We ask the big questions: Who gets to fish, where, and how much? How is climate change being factored into decision-making? How are responsibility and costs for environmental protection shared between developed and developing countries? How can benefits from minerals and genetic material be shared equitably? Who gets a seat at the decision-making table and is a diversity of voices being heard? And, what is the role of future generations and planetary health? Join us for this first episode of negotiating the ocean and meet a collective of ANCORS experts passionate about reshaping the way global society relates to and looks after the Ocean. ⁠Quentin Hanich⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/quentin-hanich), Professor at ANCORS, leading the Fisheries Governance Program ⁠Aline Jaeckel⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/aline-jaeckel), Associate Professor at ANCORS ⁠Michelle Voyer⁠⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/michelle-voyer), Assoc.-Professor at ANCORS, leading the Blue Futures Program ⁠Freya Croft⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/freya-croft), Post-doctoral Researcher, ANCORS ⁠Kamal Azmi⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/kamal-azmi), Senior Research Fellow, ANCORS & Coordinator of the Graduate Certificate in Fisheries Management and Development ⁠Randa Sacedon⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/randa-salama), ANCORS Research Fellow ⁠Makrita Solitei⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/makrita-solitei), Associate Research Fellow, ANCORS Hosts: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki⁠, (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki)Bianca Haas⁠ (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/bianca-haas) & ⁠Jennifer Macey⁠ (https://jennifermacey.com/) Sound design and editing: ⁠Emily Perkins⁠ (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication: Sunnefa Yeatman For questions & comments please contact: Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki (inatvw@uow.edu.au⁠ (mailto:inatvw@uow.edu.au)) The Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security (ANCORS), based at the University of Wollongong (UOW), is the only multidisciplinary university-based centre of its type in the Southern Hemisphere dedicated to delivering specialised research, advisory services, education and training in ocean law and policy, maritime security, and marine resources management. ANCORS Ocean Equity page https://oceanequityresearch.org/ (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) ANCORS at the University of Wollongong https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/ (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/)

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    18 Mar 2025

    Negotiating the Ocean - Trailer

    The ANCORS Ocean Equity (https://oceanequityresearch.org/) Podcast Negotiating the Ocean peeks below the surface of international ocean governance. We take you behind the scenes of ocean negotiations on biodiversity, fisheries and deep-sea mining and ask the big questions around equity and social justice. Marine biodiversity, fisheries, deep-sea mining, climate change, and pollution are all inherently international issues and require cooperation at multiple levels. Negotiating the Ocean from ANCORS is your audio guide to navigate these high seas negotiations. Each episode we’ll talk to experts around the world about the challenges facing the ocean and how the global community is trying to address them. Above all, we’ll look at these issues through the lens of equity, which means the process needs to be inclusive of different voices –because outcomes of the negotiations affect us all. So, whether you live by the ocean or far away, plan to attend the upcoming negotiations as part of a delegation or are an ocean enthusiast – this podcast is for you. Podcast Team Hosts Jennifer Macey (https://jennifermacey.com/) , Podcast Producer & Journalist Ina Tessnow-von Wysocki (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/ina-tessnowvonwysocki), Ocean Nexus Postdoctoral Research Fellow, ANCORS Bianca Haas (https://scholars.uow.edu.au/bianca-haas), ANCORS Research Fellow Editing Emily Perkins (https://emilyperkinsmedia.wordpress.com/) Communication Sunnefa Yeatman Find out more at ANCORS (https://www.uow.edu.au/ancors/) and Ocean Equity Research (https://oceanequityresearch.org/).

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• Darius Campbell
• Dominic Pattinson
• Bruno Pozzi
• Joe Appiott
• Charley Peebler

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