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Norms Lab
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Sharing insights and ideas for normative shift and development impact...
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Recent Episodes

May 8, 2026
When Care Hides Harm: Questioning The Norms Behind Girls’ Domestic Work | Norms Lab Podcast Episode 26
<p><br /></p><p>When a girl is sent from her village to the city, the arrangement often arrives through someone trusted, an auntie, a grandmother, a neighbour who knows a family in Lagos. Her parents say “Nagode, Allah”, thank you, God and try to believe that school, safety and a better life are waiting on the other end of the journey.</p><p>But for many girls, that hope quietly rearranges itself. She wakes before everyone and sleeps after everyone. </p><p>School becomes “soon”, then “later”, then nothing at all. And when she asks why, she’s told be grateful for the roof over her head.</p><p>Because this happens within families, it is rarely called harm. It is called help, assistance, or care.</p><p>In this episode of The Norms Lab Podcast, Anjola Ayodele sits with Masturah Baba to unpack a practice woven so deeply into Nigerian household life that most of us grew up alongside it without naming what we were seeing.</p><p>The conversation moves through:</p><ul><li><p>Why families agree to these arrangements and what they are really being promised</p></li><li><p>How the promise of education becomes a pathway into full time labour</p></li><li><p>Why girls often remain silent, and why the adults around them hesitate to intervene</p></li><li><p>What agency looks like for a girl living inside someone else’s home</p></li><li><p>What prevention, accountability, and real care look like in practice</p></li></ul><p>Help can become harm when it hardens into a norm we stop questioning. This is a conversation about seeing clearly, before another girl boards another bus.</p><p>🎧 Watch on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/mzg-nLrzZv8</p><p><br /></p>

March 25, 2026
When Care Becomes Complicated: Gender, Norms, and Immunization Dropout in Nigeria | Norms Lab Podcast Episode 25
<p>3 million Nigerian children begin their vaccination journey every year. Many don’t finish it. Most of the dropouts happens at the 9-month mark, right when the measles vaccine is due.</p><p>In this episode of <strong>The Norms Lab Podcast</strong>, Anjola Ayodele sits with public health researchers Ernest Ezeogu and Mary Kuforiji to explore why children and crucially, what’s already working to change it. </p><p>This isn’t a conversation about mothers who don’t care. It’s about a mother who trekked kilometres under the sun, only to be told the vaccine was out of stock. A mother who had to lie to her husband to vaccinate her own child. And a community where husbands started riding their wives to the clinic and everything changed.</p><p> In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li><p>Why the 6-month gap between the 14-week and 9-month vaccines is where children fall through the cracks</p></li><li><p>How caregiving norms, household authority, and “let peace reign” culture shape who gets vaccinated</p></li><li><p>What happened when vaccines were brought to places of worship</p></li><li><p>How mothers who served as peer researchers became change-makers</p></li></ul><p>Immunization dropout is not a parenting failure. It’s a systems and norms challenge, and the people closest to the problem are already designing the solutions.</p><p><br><strong>ttps://youtu.be/40m8rxltJAI</strong><br></p>

February 19, 2026
Nigeria’s New Education Curriculum: How Gender Shapes Skills Choices in Nigerian Schools | Norms Lab Podcast Epsiode 24
<p>Nigeria’s new Basic Education Curriculum now requires every student to graduate with at least one practical or trade-related skill, a significant step toward expanding learning pathways and economic opportunity for students across the country. </p><p>As this reform takes root, one important question emerges: when girls choose a skill, what shapes how free that choice really feels, especially when it goes against social expectations?</p><p>In many Nigerian schools:</p><p>- Some skills quietly feel “appropriate” for girls</p><p>- Others are seen astoo masculine or out of place</p><p>- Parents, teachers, and unspoken social norms shape decisions before a girl even speaks.</p><p>In this episode of The Norms Lab Podcast, Anjola Ayodele speaks with educationist and Safe Schools expert Blessing Tarfa Mam about:</p><p>- What this curriculum reform is working to achieve</p><p>- How gender norms shape students’ realities inside classrooms</p><p>- What it would actually take for skills education to expand agency for girls</p><p>- What gives Blessing hope that things are changing.</p><p>Join us as we reimagine what the freedom of choice truly means amongst gender-biased social norms, as the new education curriculum is implemented.</p><p><br></p><p>#GenderAndEducation #NormsLabPodcast #educationreform #gendernorms #socialnorms #UBEC #NewEducationCurriculum #nigeria #NigerianSchools #nigerianstudents #education</p>
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