Join us each week on Not 4 Credit as we hear from the extraordinary professors that teach advertising, public relations, social media, media production, journalism, sports media, sport management, and game design at High Point University's Nido R. Qubein School of Communication. Hosted by Heather Vaughn and John Mims, each episode dives into the personal and professional journeys of the people you see in the halls, classrooms, and boardrooms. Thoughtful, candid, and occasionally surprising, Not 4 Credit is where the real stories happen—the ones you won’t find in a syllabus.
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Join us each week on Not 4 Credit as we hear from the extraordinary professors that teach advertising, public relations, social media, media production, journalism, sports media, sport management, and game design at High Point University's Nido R. Qubein School of Communication. Hosted by Heather Vaughn and John Mims, each episode dives into the personal and professional journeys of the people you see in the halls, classrooms, and boardrooms. Thoughtful, candid, and occasionally surprising, Not 4 Credit is where the real stories happen—the ones you won’t find in a syllabus.
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April 28, 2026
Episode 9: HPU Head Men's Basketball Coach Flynn Clayman and HPU Women's Assistant Basketball Coach Katie Clayman
<p>In this season finale of Not For Credit, we’re bringing you a true “twofer” with High Point University basketball power couple Flynn and Katie Clayman. From the electric moment of HPU’s first-ever NCAA Tournament win to the quieter, deeply personal moments that define their journey, this episode blends high-stakes competition with heartfelt reflection.</p><p>Flynn and Katie take us courtside during that historic win—sharing what it felt like as coaches, as competitors, and as a family experiencing a dream realized in real time. From Katie’s emotional reaction holding their son Quinn to Flynn reliving the chaos and clarity of a game-winning moment, it’s a behind-the-scenes look at a milestone that meant more than just a win.</p><p>But this episode isn’t just about basketball. The Claymans rewind to their own origin story—meeting in a small athletic department in Utah, building careers side-by-side, and eventually making their way to High Point. Their dynamic as both spouses and coaches offers a unique lens into balancing ambition, competition, and partnership, all while raising a growing family (with baby #2 on the way).</p><p>Of course, the conversation also dives into the evolving world of college athletics. Flynn and Katie provide an insider perspective on NIL, the transfer portal, and what it really means to coach in what they call a “professionalized” college sports environment. It’s thoughtful, honest, and refreshingly grounded in both experience and perspective.</p><p>As the episode winds down, the Claymans share what’s next—on the court, at home, and in a season of life that’s about to get even busier. And in true Not For Credit fashion, their show-and-tell items—a championship ring and a “wedding basketball”—perfectly capture the blend of legacy and love that defines their story.</p><p>It’s the perfect way to close out the season: meaningful, fun, and full of moments you won’t want to miss. And yes… keep listening for those hidden song lyrics . 👀</p>
April 21, 2026
Episode 8: Dr. Jenny Lukow, Associate Professor of Sport Management
<p>In this episode of Not For Credit, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer “Jenny” Lukow, Associate Professor of Sport Management, to explore a career shaped by resilience, passion, and a lifelong love of sports.</p><p>Jenny shares the remarkable story of how Hurricane Katrina unexpectedly redirected her path—from teaching in New Orleans to finding a long-term home at High Point University. Her firsthand account of evacuation, uncertainty, and rebuilding offers a powerful look at how moments of crisis can redefine both personal and professional trajectories. Along the way, she tells the unforgettable story of adopting a stray cat in the aftermath of the storm—proof that even in chaos, meaningful connections can emerge.</p><p>We also dive into her deep-rooted passion for sports, from childhood days spent at Orioles games to her unwavering loyalty to Baltimore teams. That passion fuels her work in the classroom, where she helps students understand the business side of sports—the people, strategy, and operations behind every game-day experience.</p><p>Jenny reflects on building the sport management program at HPU from the ground up, transforming it from a one-person operation into a thriving, student-driven program with hundreds of majors and alumni working across the sports industry. From NIL opportunities to careers that don’t even exist yet, she highlights the ever-evolving nature of sport—and why the possibilities for students are truly endless.</p><p>It’s a conversation about adaptability, mentorship, and finding your lane—plus a few hidden song lyrics if you’re paying close attention.</p>
April 14, 2026
Episode 7: Dr. Kristina Bell, Associate Professor of Game Design
<p>In this episode of Not for Credit, we visit with Dr. Kristina Bell, Associate Professor of Game Design at High Point University, for a fun and insightful conversation about games, creativity, and the evolving role of interactive media.</p><p>Dr. Bell shares her unique journey—from a childhood filled with video games (including a hilarious journal entry defending Nintendo as a full-time activity) to studying film, working in sound editing, and ultimately finding her way back to games through the rise of indie game development. Along the way, she offers a compelling perspective on why games are such a powerful medium—one where players and designers co-create meaningful experiences.</p><p>We also dive into her teaching, including courses like Games and Identity, where students tackle real-world issues such as accessibility, representation, and social challenges through game design. Dr. Bell highlights how games can foster problem-solving, storytelling, and even empathy in ways other media can’t.</p><p>Of course, it wouldn’t be Not for Credit without a peek into the personal side. From her love of narrative-driven games like The Stanley Parable to her background as a punk rocker in high school and multi-instrumentalist, Dr. Bell brings a creative and unexpected energy to everything she does.</p><p>Whether you’re a gamer, a creative, or just curious about how games shape the way we think and connect, this episode will definitely change the way you see the world of game design.</p>
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