by Ozzie Pullin & Craig Bingham
NOW THEN! A podcast that discusses commercial and creative filmmaking. Our guests lay bare the ups and downs of finding a voice within an ever-changing and, at times, unforgiving industry. This podcast is hosted by Ozzie Pullin and Craig Bingham, fellow directors and close friends.
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October 30, 2025
<p>In this episode, we chat with writer and director <strong>Rosie May Bird Smith</strong> about comedy, creativity, and carving out your own path. From agency life to filmmaking, Rosie talks about finding her voice and the story behind her new short, Egg Timer. Hope you enjoy. </p><p><strong>ROSIE may bird smith is a British comedy writer & director with a strong, unique style and ability to blend humour with heart.’</strong></p><p>In 2025 Bird Smith was named <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://adage.com/events-awards/a-list-creativity/aa-rosie-may-bird-smith-biscuit-director-to-watch-creativity-awards-2025/">Director to Watch</a> by Ad Age’s Creativity Awards, following her earlier recognition by the British Arrows for Best Young and Emerging Talent, <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.creativecircle.co.uk/">Creative Circle’s</a> Best New Director, Cannes <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youngdirectoraward.awardsengine.com/">Young Director Award</a> and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/future-leaders-2022-rosie-may-bird-smith/1755133">Campaign Magazine</a> as one of the industry’s Rising Stars.</p><p>Rosie began her career as a <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rosiemaybirdsmith.co.uk/writing">creative writer</a>, quickly gaining attention for her sharp wit and clever storytelling working on a range of high-profile films for some of the world’s largest and most influential brands. Upon shifting to the director’s chair, her <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lbbonline.com/news/asda-turns-bar-codes-into-bra-codes-in-breast-cancer-awareness-drive-offering-a-real-self-checkout">first commercial project</a> for supermarket giant Asda, received four British Arrow nominations, earned her a Silver Young Director Award and raised £5.9 million for charity. She has since gone on to direct work for many large household names including Müller Light, Andrex and Ginsters. Her work on Andrex, which encourages Brits to bust free from toilet taboos, went on to win Silver at <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://biscuitfilmworks.com/uk/news/cannes-2025">Cannes Lions this year</a>.</p><p>Rosie is represented by <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://biscuitfilmworks.com/us/commercial/rosie-may-bird-smith/">Biscuit Filmworks</a> in the UK & US and <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://tpfilm.de/directors/rosie-may-bird-smith/">Tony Petersen Films</a> in Germany.</p>
May 15, 2025
<p>In this episode, we speak with editor and director Saar Klein. He’s known for editing films such as Almost Famous, The Thin Red Line, and The Bourne Identity, to name a few. He also directed the feature film After the Fall.</p><p>In our conversation, we discussed how he broke into the industry, his approach to storytelling, managing egos, and the importance of opening yourself up to the creative process.</p><p>This episode is sponsored by The Gate+ and produced by Jack Kirkwood.</p><p>Hosted by directors Craig Bingham and Ozzie Pullin.</p><p></p><p><strong>Saar Klein - Biography</strong></p><p>Film editor Saar Klein is a two-time Oscar nominee for his work on Terrence Malick’s The Thin Red Line and Cameron Crowe’s Almost Famous. The Thin Red Line was Klein’s second credit as editor, and alongside his Oscar nomination, Klein also received nominations from the ACE, ACCA, and OFTA Awards. For Almost Famous, Klein won the ACE Award for his editing and was similarly nominated for an ACCA and OFTA Award.</p><p>Klein’s collaborative relationship with director Doug Liman began with The Bourne Identity for Universal Pictures, where the two relative newcomers introduced a new realism and energy to action that influenced the genre for years to come. Their partnership continued with films including Jumper for 20th Century Fox, Locked Down for Warner Bros., Fair Game, American Made, and most recently The Instigators for Apple TV, starring Matt Damon and Casey Affleck. </p><p> Klein also works frequently with director Terrence Malick, their first collaboration being the documentary Endurance, which premiered at Venice Film Festival. Their relationship flourished with The Thin Red Line, The New World, and Klein’s uncredited work on The Tree of Life, and the two continue to collaborate to this day. Other credits include Jean-Stéphane Sauvaire’s Asphalt City, which was nominated for the Palme d’Or at Cannes Film Festival, Andrew Heckler’s Burden, which was nominated for the Sundance Grand Jury Prize, Antonin Baudry’s The Wolf’s Call for Netflix, and Dito Montiel’s Fighting for Universal Pictures. </p><p>More recently, Klein worked on the Apple TV series Masters of the Air, directed by Cary Fukunaga and starring Austin Butler. Previously, Klein wrote, directed and edited his own film, After the Fall, winner of the 40th Anniversary Award at the Deauville American Film Festival. The film also premiered at Berlin International Film Festival and was nominated for an Audience Award at SXSW Film Festival.</p><p>Originally from Jerusalem, Klein eventually moved to the United States and received his bachelor’s degree in psychology from Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, New York. On his first job, he assisted editors Joe Hutshing, Pietro Scalia, and Hank Corwin on Oliver Stone’s JFK, then later returned to co-edit Stone’s U-Turn. Klein’s versatility across various genres and experience with big-budget studio films and European and independent cinema are a testament to his diverse interest and expertise in storytelling that he continues to hone with each new project.</p>
May 1, 2025
<p>In this conversation we speak to director, Margot Bowman. We discuss her love for animation, her approach to documentary and why club culture sits at the heart of everything she does.</p><p>This episode is sponsored by the Gate+ and produced by Jack Kirkwood </p><p>Hosted by directors, Craig Bingham and Ozzie Pullin.</p><p></p><p>Born and raised in London, Margot Bowman uses the medium of film in all its forms, as a creative vehicle for telling powerful human stories, centred on emotional truths.</p><p>Margot’s visually striking work is textured with thoughtful animation, CGI or archive that’s woven amongst her poetic live-action. This medium-agnostic approach to storytelling creates a rich visual language that reframes the familiar so that audiences connect with the story at hand in new and original ways.</p><p>Growing up in Camden, Margot is consistently inspired by her home city’s legacy of club culture, creativity, freedom of expression and community. Formerly the Creative Director of Boiler Room, she has since directed commercials for major clients including Nike, Dr Martens, Carhartt, Space NK and Byredo, with narrative and documentary commissions from the likes of Channel 4, The Tate, Dazed and NOWNESS.</p><p>Most recently, she co-directed Amazon Prime’s highly anticipated documentary feature The Tour, a 90-minute film about the relaunch of Victoria’s Secret’s iconic fashion show, reimagined through the lens of 20 diverse female artists from around the world.</p><p>Her documentary Coming Home premiered at SXSW 2022, was awarded Best Short at the prestigious Palestine Cinema Days, and was shortlisted for the International Documentary Association’s films of the year. These powerful experiences in documentary are built off her natural ability to connect with people and bring their stories to screen with intimacy and style.</p><p>Moving forward, Margot is intent on creating storytelling-driven work that sits at the heart of the cultural conversation. Her diverse creative background and innate understanding of the zeitgeist, accelerates her lyrical storytelling to create work that is contemporary, informative and delivered to audiences in a rich visual world that resonates in pop culture and beyond.</p>
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NOW THEN! A podcast that discusses commercial and creative filmmaking. Our guests lay bare the ups and downs of finding a voice within an ever-changing and, at times, unforgiving industry.
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