Hosted by CFTE Co-Director Jenn Turner, LMHC, On Trauma and Power explores the profound relationship of trauma and healing through the lens of embodied practices and the complex dynamics of power. Featuring survivors, experts, educators, authors, and practitioners of varying disciplines, this podcast dives into how trauma and power intersect in diverse ways in our lives. Join us for trauma-informed conversations that inspire, educate, and empower.
Building Mindfulness Into Schools From the Inside Out | Featuring: Ben Painter & Sid Babla
Ben Painter and Sid Babla of Whole School Mindfulness join Jenn Turner for a conversation about what it actually looks like to build a mindfulness program in a school — not as an add-on intervention, not airdropped from the outside, but grown from whoever is already there, already practicing, already a little bit doing it off the side of their desk.
Sid opens with the Three Doorways to the Present Moment: a practice moving through sound, breath, and interoceptive sensation that sets the tone for a conversation full of genuine curiosity about how and where these practices actually land. From there, Ben and Sid share their own paths to this work — Ben through a high school in Concord, Massachusetts with a full-time mindfulness director on staff; Sid through growing up in India, working in finance, going to graduate school in Belgium, and arriving at Dartmouth during a pandemic — before walking through how Whole School's model has evolved over seven years of learning from what didn't work.
They get into the principle of proximity, the shift away from prescriptive programming toward community-led experimentation, what the two-year mindfulness director cohort actually looks like week to week, and why the biggest thing Whole School does is often just getting out of the way so directors can learn from each other. Jenn shares her own story — training as an opera singer in rural Maine, being told she wasn't in her body, and following that thread into yoga, therapy, and everything that came after.
Available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
25 Aug 2026
Doing This Work Without Causing Harm | Featuring Dr. Jordan Ashley, PhD, MA
Dr. Jordan Ashley is the founder of Souljourn Yoga Foundation, a 501(c)(3) that creates yoga retreats and teacher training programs to fund girls' education worldwide. She holds a PhD in sociology — her doctoral fieldwork was with adolescent girls at a boarding school in Morocco, and her research sits at the intersection of embodied methodologies, feminist and decolonial frameworks, and girlhood studies. She is also a survivor of violence, and she does not foreground that fact, which tells you something about how she moves through this work. Jordan joins Jenn Turner for a conversation about what trauma-informed work looks like when you cross international borders, work with indigenous communities, and carry significant privilege into spaces that are not yours.
She opens with a short breathing and grounding practice — hands to heart and belly, filling the breath in four stages — and from there the conversation covers a lot of ground: placeworld as a research framework, the Pickle story (which is exactly what it sounds like), damage-centered research and why Eve Tuck's critique matters, the Amazigh girls of Morocco and what the 2023 earthquake changed about Jordan's role, and the Rwandan Genocide Against the Tutsi survivor community she was invited into through the Savota organization. They also talk about how Souljourn's retreat model changes the donor-recipient relationship, what a one-week yoga teacher training in Rwanda looks like when a 200-hour training is neither accessible nor appropriate, and what the yoga camp Jordan just ran in Watts and Compton showed her about the power of rest as a practice.
Available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
11 Aug 2026
Grief is Not Something You Get Over | Featuring Edy Nathan, MA, LCSW, CSAT-S
Edy Nathan is a licensed psychotherapist, AASECT certified sex therapist, and internationally recognized expert on grief, trauma, and sexual healing. She's spent more than 25 years in private practice in New York City, and she's been thinking about grief — really thinking about it — since childhood, when she couldn't understand why she wasn't supposed to bury the goldfish.
In this conversation with Jenn Turner, Edy opens with a practice she calls embodied curiosity: a few minutes of soft attention to the breath, a swallow, and the warmth of hands placed on the neck or shoulders — an invitation to be with yourself rather than to calm yourself down. From there, she and Jenn move through Edy's definition of grief (not just the loss of a loved one, but anything we're hungry for that can't be sated), her eleven phases of grief, why she replaced the word "closure" with "grace," and what the Timex watch she still carries tells her about integration.
They talk about the hero's journey of grief, the role of emotional armor, the cardinal/mutable/fixed personality framework from her book It's Grief, and the people who've had to perform sadness when what they actually felt was relief. Jenn shares her own experience losing her father — the grief of letting go of hope, and the unexpected liberation that came after. Edy names it: the dance of differentiation. Holding on to yourself without needing the other person to change.
This is part one of what became a two-part conversation. Available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
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