<b>The Other Pod is the latest venture from acclaimed visual artist Chloe Aftel. With a long career of pushing boundaries and exposing all the messy in-betweens of society, Chloe now takes her lens to a deeper level through The Other Pod. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Join Chloe for monthly inquisitions into the lives of famed creatives, activists, philosophers, writers, scholars, and more. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>From rapper/activist Killer Mike to feminist philosopher Serene Khader, Chloe’s uniquely curious and empathetic way of connecting with guests furthers the throughline of all her work: how gender, identity, and sexuality create works of meaning. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>With each new episode profiling unique identities and careers, Chloe bravely looks at the way self-expression can lead to freedom, how being an outsider is more universal than may appear, and what tangible strategies we can invoke in pursuit of something greater than the status quo.</b><br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support</a>.

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<b>The Other Pod is the latest venture from acclaimed visual artist Chloe Aftel. With a long career of pushing boundaries and exposing all the messy in-betweens of society, Chloe now takes her lens to a deeper level through The Other Pod. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Join Chloe for monthly inquisitions into the lives of famed creatives, activists, philosophers, writers, scholars, and more. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>From rapper/activist Killer Mike to feminist philosopher Serene Khader, Chloe’s uniquely curious and empathetic way of connecting with guests furthers the throughline of all her work: how gender, identity, and sexuality create works of meaning. </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>With each new episode profiling unique identities and careers, Chloe bravely looks at the way self-expression can lead to freedom, how being an outsider is more universal than may appear, and what tangible strategies we can invoke in pursuit of something greater than the status quo.</b><br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support</a>.
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Recent Episodes

July 1, 2026
Episode 41 — Emily Harrington on Climbing, Overcoming Fear, and Navigating Motherhood
Five time national sports climbing champion, and revered mountaineer, Emily Harrington talks with Chloe Aftel about how competitive climbing has shaped her perspective on life, the world, and her personal truths. Inseparable from her multiple titles that include the phrase, “first woman to,” Harrington discusses her journey in the sport, from starting as a young girl scaling man-made walls to finding herself in life or death moments atop the world’s highest peaks. Along with a superhero-like physicality, Harrington describes how important problem solving, risk-analysis, and intelligent decision making is for the successful climber, and how she has integrated these skills into her adult life. She speaks glowingly of the climbing community, spotlighting camaraderie, an appreciation for the natural world, and a zeal for exploration as key to the life of an adventurer. Unique to Harrington, and developed by a career of taking risks and conquering them, she shares her philosophy on fear, and how this philosophy has changed since starting her family. Through it all, Harrington’s awe-inspiring accomplishments combined with her belief in the value of facing challenges head-on will certainly leave a lasting impression on anyone hesitant to take their next seismic leap.<br /><br />Moments to look forward to in the episode: <br /><ul><li>Harrington shares the personal struggles she faced as a woman being in a weight to strength dependent sport and the perspective shift that helped her overcome them </li><li>She dives into the process of competitive climbing, emphasizing what fuels her passion for the sport while clarifying the difference between technical and dynamic climbing styles </li><li>She discusses how her priorities and relationship to high risk climbing has changed following having a child, and how she navigates being a mother and an adventurer</li></ul><br />Emily Harrington is an American professional rock climber and mountaineer born in Boulder, Colorado in 1986. As a youngster, Harrington was ripe with competitive drive, leading her to develop her skills as a climber at a young age. Finding competitive success in the sport, she started as a member of the USA Junior Climbing Team in 1998. At age 16, Harrington won her first of four USA Climbing Adult National Championship in sport climbing. In 2003, she began her studies at the University of Colorado, Boulder, where she graduated with a degree in International Affairs with an emphasis on Sub-Saharan Africa. In between her studies, in 2005, Harrington placed second at the IFSC World Championships. Upon graduating in 2008, Harrington transitioned into professional outdoor climbing, where she has since cemented herself in the world of mountaineering, having achieved the first individual free climb of the American Way route on Pik Slesova in Kyrgyzstan, among other accomplishments. Now, Harrington lives in Tahoe with her husband Adrian Ballinger and their four year old child. She is currently working with <a href="https://zgirls.org/girlclimber" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Zgirls</a> as a co-leader for a program that empowers middle school girls at the intersection of rock climbing and mental health. <br /><br /><a href="https://www.chloeaftel.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chloe Aftel</a> has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19's impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel's...

June 1, 2026
Episode 40 — Lucinda Williams on The Act of Creation, Success, and The Political Landscape
Three time Grammy award-winning singer songwriter, and creator of over a dozen acclaimed albums, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/60ht0hWRy1yjUDfNsLuHuP?si=vr9NUSCgTmSXqxVyQbNhMQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lucinda Williams</a> sits down with Chloe Aftel to chronicle her journey in music, from being emotionally taken by the folk music of the 1960s, to creating her most recent album,<i> <a href="https://www.lucindawilliams.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">“World’s Gone Wrong,”</a></i> which responds directly to the current American political landscape. Shining through Williams’ anecdotes is an artistic integrity and self-honesty that has simultaneously created friction in her career, and pushed her to take her own gravel road to pioneer the Americana genre. From being inspired to write meaningful songs by Bob Dylan, to now performing with him on the world’s grandest stages, Williams meditates on how she maintains a healthy dynamic between her art, ego, and success. With passion, she makes it clear that politics and real life are never separate from her music, and makes a call for the necessity of civic engagement to counteract the growing trend towards apathy. It is this gusto and Williams’ buoyant spirit that reminds us that although there will never be a world without tears, we are all on Earth together. <br /><br />Highlights: <br /><ul><li>Williams discusses the impact her parents had on her music, and how the rebel spirit she learned from them continues to persist in her today </li><li>She pinpoints the enduring themes of her work, and the critiques she received from the industry for being an artist that grapples with sorrow </li><li>She reflects on the most difficult parts of performing, and how she’s improved as a singer songwriter with a growing audience </li><li>She discusses her relationship to her guitar, and the hurdles she’s had to overcome now that she performs without it </li></ul>Biographies: <br /><br /><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/60ht0hWRy1yjUDfNsLuHuP?si=vr9NUSCgTmSXqxVyQbNhMQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lucinda Williams</a> is a Grammy award-winning American singer-songwriter with over 700,000 monthly listeners on music streaming services. Born in 1953 in Lake Charles, Louisiana to a father who wrote poetry and taught creative writing and a mother who spent long hours at the piano, Williams developed her love for writing and music as a young girl. By 1980 she had released two albums, <i>“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/3HzbLgbtdRrFRyujsDZrmj?si=k52OypZuSOeLbvri1FpSnA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ramblin on My Mind”</a></i><a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/3HzbLgbtdRrFRyujsDZrmj?si=k52OypZuSOeLbvri1FpSnA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a>(1979) and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/2jxxEF2IMr312jmiY9B8eb?si=qbQnBruARz-ck4I3lajhGQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i>“Happy Woman Blues” </i></a>(1980) to some critical buzz. However, it was the release of her third album, titled <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/4BEDvBtVumNz9YaFQaNXDa?si=5fM1RJMTTB-Ce9KEfFYm5Q" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i>“Lucinda Williams”</i></a> in 1988 that brought her tender heart into the national spotlight. In 1998, Williams broke through commercially with the release of <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/3iC6dJobZulVXp0F4Bojig?si=0dunnQXaQmiICsCs1yq43A" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i>“Car Wheels on a Gravel Road,</i></a>” a genre bending album that carved out her unique style—one she says can be found in the crack between rock and country—and earned her a Grammy for Best Contemporary Folk Album. Her most recent album,<a href="https://www.lucindawilliams.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i> “World’s Gone Wrong,” </i></a>(2026) was created in response to the chaotic socio-political landscape of contemporary America. The album, once again, proves Williams’...

May 1, 2026
Episode 39 - Historian Ashley Farmer on Black power, remarkable women & the legacy of America
Ashley has spent her career researching and considering the Black revolutionary women of the last century. Her most recent tome is <i>Queen Mother</i> about Audley Moore. With Chloe, she goes in depth about not only who these women were and how they navigated the times during which they existed, but at what cost was their activism and how their lives inform our present world. Moving through the challenges of motherhood, the tools of white control, and possibilities of Black sovereignty, Ashley broadens our understanding of historical context and explains her style of writing usable history. <br />Highlights <br /><ul><li>How to understand possibility of America being a failed experiment for Black people</li><li>How to create meaningful, painstakingly accurate biographies of marginalized leaders</li><li>What it means to think in the <i>longue durée </i><i></i></li></ul><br />Dr. Ashley D. Farmer is an Associate Professor in the Department of History and African and African Diaspora Studies at the University of Texas at Austin. Numerous schools and foundations, including the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University, the National Endowment for the Humanities, and the Whiting Foundation, have supported her research. Farmer is also a co-editor of the <a href="https://www.blackpowerseries.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Black Power Series</a> published with NYU Press and the <a href="https://uncpress.org/black-womens-history-series-incubator/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Black Women’s History Series</a>, published with UNC Press. Dr. Farmer earned a BA from Spelman College, an MA in History, and a PhD in African American Studies from Harvard University. <br /><a href="https://www.chloeaftel.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chloe Aftel</a> has spent her career working in commercial photography, photojournalism, and film. She’s an established name in modern photography with work featured in The New York Times, Mother Jones, Playboy, Dazed & Confused, Vogue Germany, The Hollywood Reporter, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue Italia, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, and more. Aftel has photographed victims of sexual violence, reported on COVID 19’s impact on the trans community, and gained access as the first reporter in COVID wards of the West Coast’s hardest-hit hospitals. She has covered underground abortion providers, the impact of gender pronouns on daily life, and clergy abuse. Aftel’s first book, <a href="https://www.chloeaftel.com/outside-inbetween" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Outside & In Between</a>, is an award-winning anthology covering gender non-conforming people across the United States.<br /><br />Become a supporter of this podcast: <a href="https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss">https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-other-pod-with-chloe-aftel--6567483/support</a>.
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