Out of Practice is a podcast about the human side of veterinary medicine from inside and outside the clinic.
Hosted by Dr. Addie Reinhard and Dr. Ginger Templeton, two veterinarians who’ve stepped out of full-time clinical practice but remain deeply rooted in the profession, the show explores what it means to build a sustainable, meaningful, and well-lived life in veterinary medicine today.
Through candid conversations about work, identity, wellbeing, boundaries, leadership, relationships, parenthood, creativity, and everything in between, Addie and Ginger bring honesty, nuance, and a refreshing sense of curiosity to the experiences veterinarians rarely talk about out loud.
E19 | Volunteering: Giving Back Without Burning Out
Exploring the realities of volunteerism, fundraising, and what it truly looks like to give back without burning out. Addie and Ginger share personal stories—from youth literacy tutoring and music to homelessness advocacy and community boards—alongside practical insights on aligning your service with your core values and energy levels.
We discuss:
How stepping outside the clinic and volunteering can help navigate professional burnout
Aligning your core values with the right volunteer mechanism (tutoring, board service, grassroots outreach)
Practical strategies for setting firm boundaries, managing mental bandwidth, and avoiding over commitment
26 Aug 2026
E18 | Navigating Vices
In this episode, Ginger and Addie explore the concept of vices, how they serve as coping mechanisms, and the importance of mindfulness and self-awareness in managing them. They share personal stories and practical insights on navigating discomfort without relying on substances or habits that numb feelings.
We discuss:
Vices as coping mechanisms
Mindfulness and self-awareness
Managing discomfort without substances
Personal stories of changing habits
12 Aug 2026
E17 | Staying Human in an AI World
Join us for an engaging conversation with Dr. Aaron Massecar, a philosopher and veterinary industry expert, as we explore the ethical, philosophical, and practical implications of AI in veterinary medicine and beyond.
We discuss:
Philosophical perspectives on AI and humanity
Navigating Human Connection and AI
AI Use in Veterinary Medicine
Risks of AI use
Resources
Aaron Massecar's Substack - https://aaronmassecar.substack.com/ (https://aaronmassecar.substack.com/)
29 Jul 2026
E16 | The Hidden Power of Boredom: Unlock Creativity and Self-Discovery
Exploring the nature of boredom, its cultural implications, and how embracing it can foster creativity and self-awareness. Addie and Ginger share personal insights and practical tips for managing boredom healthily.
We discuss:
The role of boredom in creativity and problem-solving
Cultural and societal influences on boredom and consumption
Practical strategies for managing boredom and emotional discomfort
15 Jul 2026
E15 | ADHD in Vet Med: A Conversation with Dr. Daniel Krenzer (Part 2)
In this episode of Out of Practice, Ginger continues her conversation with school psychologist and researcher Dr. Daniel Krenzer, digging deeper into the realities of navigating neurodivergence in the veterinary clinic.
When a team member shares a suspected or formal diagnosis, it can leave managers unsure of how to respond. We explore how minor operational tweaks, rather than massive overhauls, can unlock massive changes in team morale and performance.
We discuss:
- Moving beyond the scope of a manager to focus on process and dialogue
- The "both/and" approach: Balancing individual treatment with organizational support
- Practical, low-cost accommodations—from sensory adjustments to linear checklists
1 Jul 2026
E14 | ADHD in Vet Med: A Conversation with Dr. Daniel Krenzer (Part 1)
In this episode of Out of Practice, we shift our focus to neurodivergence in veterinary medicine, specifically exploring how ADHD presents in the workplace and the lecture hall.
From the subtle ways executive dysfunction masks itself as "laziness" to the unique challenges faced by high-achieving women in the profession, navigating a neurotypical career path with a neuroatypical brain is a hidden mental load for many.
We discuss:
How ADHD presentation differs significantly between genders
The direct intersection between unmanaged ADHD and veterinary burnout
Practical workplace strategies, including the power of sincere peer acknowledgment
This episode begins a two-part conversation with school psychologist and researcher Dr. Daniel Krenzer, opening the door to how we can build more supportive, inclusive veterinary team cultures.
17 Jun 2026
E13 | Vacation and the Difficulty of Disconnecting
In this episode of Out of Practice, we explore the realities of taking time away in veterinary medicine.
From unfinished work to the quiet anxiety of what might be waiting when we return, stepping away from work is rarely as simple as booking a trip.
We discuss:
The guilt that can accompany time off
Productivity culture and constant availability
The mental load of ownership and leadership
Why modeling healthy time off matters for teams
This episode builds on our recent conversation about downtime and expands the lens to longer breaks from work.
4 Jun 2026
E12 | The Discomfort of Doing Nothing
In this episode of Out of Practice, we explore the concept of downtime in veterinary medicine and why slowing down can feel surprisingly uncomfortable.
From packed schedules and emotional intensity to the identity many of us build around being needed, veterinary culture often rewards constant motion. But what happens when there is a pause? When the shift ends? When the to-do list is complete?
In this episode, we discuss:
Our experiences with downtime
High-achiever discomfort with stillness
How learning to tolerate downtime supports long-term sustainability
This conversation invites reflection on how we relate to time, productivity, and worth in a demanding profession.
Because sometimes the hardest thing to do is nothing at all.
20 May 2026
E11 | Stress, Trauma, and Therapy: A Conversation with Lori D'Alessandro, LCSW, CCTP (Part 2)
In Part 2 of our series, we demystify the actual process of seeking therapy for ongoing workplace stress and trauma. Recognizing the need for help is a crucial first step—but knowing what to expect can make taking action much easier.
We pull back the curtain on the therapeutic process, breaking down common modalities and providing a practical roadmap to help you find the right provider without the overwhelm.
We discuss:
What frameworks like CBT (for thought patterns) and EMDR (for processing trauma) actually look like in practice.
Step-by-step guidance on how to look for a therapist.
Disclaimer: The content of this episode is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or mental health treatment. Always seek the advice of a qualified health provider with any questions regarding a mental health condition.
6 May 2026
E10 | Stress, Trauma, and Therapy: A Conversation with Lori D'Alessandro, LCSW, CCTP (Part 1)
In this episode of Out of Practice, we observe Mental Health Awareness Month by diving into the essential, yet often daunting, process of seeking professional support.
While the veterinary profession is increasingly open about mental health challenges, the practical steps of finding help can feel overwhelming when you’re already operating at capacity. We move beyond the "why" and focus on the "how"—navigating the search for a therapist who truly understands the unique pressures of the clinic.
We discuss:
Practical techniques for vetting providers and finding a therapist.
How chronic stress and acute trauma physically manifest in the veterinary workplace.
Understanding how personal history and professional stressors intertwine.
The importance of reaching out for support and the role of clinical debriefing after difficult cases.
This episode continues our commitment to professional well-being, moving from the concept of self-care into the tangible action of clinical support. Whether you’re looking for a therapist for the first time or seeking better ways to support your team, this conversation offers a roadmap for the journey.
29 Apr 2026
E9 | Authenticity, Identity, and the Masks We Wear
We all wear masks.
In veterinary medicine, and in life, different situations call for different versions of us. The calm clinician. The decisive leader. The supportive colleague. The steady presence clients rely on.
These roles aren’t inherently inauthentic. Often, they help us navigate complex environments and care for others well.
But over time, it can become harder to tell where the role ends and the person begins.
In this episode, we explore identity, authenticity, and the masks we wear, not with the goal of removing them entirely, but with the intention of understanding them.
15 Apr 2026
E8 | A Search for Balance as a Veterinary Leader: A Conversation with Dr. Ben Donati - Part 2
What does it take to slow down when your mind is wired to keep going?
In Part 2 of this conversation, Ginger continues her discussion with emergency veterinarian and practice owner Dr. Ben Donati, co-owner of APEX Vets, shifting the focus to the challenge of creating space outside of work.
Dr. Donati reflects candidly on the difficulty of turning off work-related thoughts and the practices he has begun exploring to create moments of quiet.
Together, they discuss:
The drive that often fuels veterinary leaders
Why slowing down can feel unexpectedly difficult
Early efforts to create mental space and recovery
This episode continues the Out of Practice exploration of identity, sustainability, and the ongoing process of building a veterinary career with intention.
This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation.
1 Apr 2026
E7 | A Search for Balance as a Veterinary Leader: A Conversation with Dr. Ben Donati - Part 1
In this first of a two-part conversation, Ginger is joined by emergency veterinarian and practice owner Dr. Ben Donati, co-owner of APEX Vets, to explore how mentorship has shaped his professional journey and leadership approach.
Together, they discuss:
The difference between mentorship and coaching
The role of peer mentorship in veterinary medicine
Why connection and guidance matter at every career stage
This conversation continues the Out of Practice exploration of identity, belonging, and the relationships that help veterinary professionals grow and stay connected to the work.
This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation.
18 Mar 2026
E6 | The Lies We Tell Ourselves in Veterinary Medicine
In veterinary medicine, certain narratives get repeated so often that they begin to feel like truth. But what if some of the stories shaping our profession aren’t entirely accurate?
In this episode, we examine three commonly held beliefs in veterinary medicine related to generational stereotypes, practice ownership, and mental health. Together, we explore where these narratives originated, why they persist, and how they may be influencing the future of the profession.
Join us for a thoughtful conversation that challenges assumptions, encourages critical reflection, and invites listeners to consider a more nuanced — and hopeful — perspective on veterinary medicine.
This conversation briefly references mental health and suicide. If this feels like a sensitive topic for you, we encourage you to listen with care and reach out for support if needed. You’ll find resources in the show notes.
Resources
Independent Veterinary Practitioners Association (IVPA) – https://ivpa.org/ (https://ivpa.org/)
Independent Animal Hospital Association (IAHA) - https://iahavet.com/ (https://iahavet.com/)
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (U.S.): Call or text 988 — available 24/7 for anyone in emotional distress, crisis, or suicidal thoughts.
4 Mar 2026
E5 | Finding Your Community
In Episode 5, we talk about the role of community in veterinary medicine and why so many veterinarians struggle to find it early in their careers. We discuss how isolation, burnout, and siloed clinic environments can make connection feel difficult, especially when moving to a new state, starting a first job, or transitioning into a new role.
We share practical ways to build authentic professional relationships, including networking without an agenda, leveraging LinkedIn, joining state VMAs, attending conferences, connecting through affinity groups, and exploring virtual communities.
Whether you’re exploring nonclinical roles, craving mentorship, or simply tired of feeling alone in veterinary medicine, this episode offers both hope and a roadmap for finding your people.
Resources
AVMA Veterinary Leadership Conference - https://www.avma.org/events/veterinary-leadership-conference (https://www.avma.org/events/veterinary-leadership-conference)
Veterinary Innovation Summit - https://veterinaryinnovationcouncil.com/veterinary-innovation-summit/ (https://veterinaryinnovationcouncil.com/veterinary-innovation-summit/)
Organizations
Pawsibilities Vet Med - https://pawsibilitiesvetmed.com/ (https://pawsibilitiesvetmed.com/)
Pride VMC - https://pridevmc.org/ (https://pridevmc.org/)
Multicultural Vet Med - https://mcvma.org/ (https://mcvma.org/)
LatinX Vet Med - https://latinxvma.org/ (https://latinxvma.org/)
Canadian VIBE - https://www.facebook.com/CanadianVIBENetwork/ (https://www.facebook.com/CanadianVIBENetwork/)
National Association for Black Veterinarians - https://nabvonline.org/ (https://nabvonline.org/)
Association of Asian Veterinary Medical Professionals - https://www.aavmp.org/ (https://www.aavmp.org/)
American Association of Veterinarians Indian Origin - https://aavio.org/ (https://aavio.org/)
BlackDVM Network - https://www.blackdvmnetwork.com/ (https://www.blackdvmnetwork.com/)
Chapter VIII - https://www.chapterviii.org/about-us/ (https://www.chapterviii.org/about-us/)
Native American Veterinary Association (NAVA) - https://www.facebook.com/groups/753809451452278/about/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/753809451452278/about/)
Veterinarians as One Inclusive Community for Empowerment (VOICE) - https://vetvoicenational.wordpress.com/ (https://vetvoicenational.wordpress.com/)
Women's Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative (WVLDI) - https://wvldi.org/ (https://wvldi.org/)
18 Feb 2026
E4 | Rethinking “Family” and Community in Vet Med
In this episode, we unpack the phrase “we’re a family at work” a common sentiment in veterinary medicine that can feel comforting to some and uncomfortable or even triggering to others. We explore both the positive intentions behind the language and the ways it can create pressure, blur boundaries, or feel exclusionary depending on personal history and workplace culture.
We talk about why “community” may be a more inclusive and accurate term, and why belonging, engagement, and shared purpose matter more than labels. We also discuss how leaders can cultivate authentic community by asking their teams what they want and involving them in shaping the culture, rather than relying on activities alone.
Finally, we reflect on finding community outside of work and how building those circles often requires vulnerability and a willingness to “do it scared.”
2 Feb 2026
E3 | Let's Talk Family
In Episode 3, we talk about family, the joyful, complicated, and evolving relationships that shape our lives both inside and outside of veterinary medicine.
We explore how family life intersects with veterinary careers across different seasons, from raising young kids while practicing full-time to embracing hobbies and traditions in the empty-nest phase. Along the way, we share personal stories, holiday rituals, and practical strategies for maintaining autonomy, managing expectations, and taking care of yourself around the people you love.
2 Feb 2026
E2 | Leaving Work at Work
In Episode 2, we talk about the discipline and skill of stepping away from veterinary work — whether from a clinical shift, the inbox, a leadership role, or an ambitious well-being project.
We explore why detaching is easier in some roles than others, what helped us learn to “leave work at work,” and how hobbies, intentional boundaries, and supportive mentors play a surprising role in disconnecting.
Leaving work at work is often the first step toward enjoying life both inside and outside of veterinary medicine.
2 Feb 2026
E1 | Reclaiming Identity Beyond the Clinic
In our first episode, we explore what it means to have a life outside of veterinary medicine and why that matters for wellbeing, identity, and longevity in the profession.
We talk about how easy it is to lose yourself in vet school, internships, and early career practice, and how rebuilding an identity outside of the profession can feel intimidating, especially for perfectionistic, high-achieving veterinarians. We share personal stories about burnout, losing (and rediscovering) hobbies, and the stigma around creative pursuits in adulthood.
This episode focuses on creative outlets as a form of wellbeing. Addie dives into how music has become a major part of her life. Ginger reflects on returning to artistic pursuits after years of separating “serious” professional identity from “play.” We discuss adult hobbies, the fear of being “mediocre,” and why embracing imperfection (“make crappy art!”) may be essential for wellbeing.
Listen to Addie and Cole's "the Middle" on Streaming Services -
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/73MKLAMMHT07TxUsw6fC2j?si=SNBrHLmBRDavIB2qLNVA2g (https://open.spotify.com/album/73MKLAMMHT07TxUsw6fC2j?si=SNBrHLmBRDavIB2qLNVA2g)
Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-middle/1848064482 (https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-middle/1848064482)
Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/artist/addie-and-cole/the-middle/ALwl9nnbptqK5h4?part=ug-desktop&corr=122720892970105710 (https://www.pandora.com/artist/addie-and-cole/the-middle/ALwl9nnbptqK5h4?part=ug-desktop&corr=122720892970105710)
Youtube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSGey-oLGZD66iywijlAG5-ISQHyrH0vU&si=WifEkcUPwg_Q8OiZ (https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSGey-oLGZD66iywijlAG5-ISQHyrH0vU&si=WifEkcUPwg_Q8OiZ)
Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/albums/B0FXG4DWMN?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_JkiSKAavi690NYUB4AVDtCi03 (https://music.amazon.com/albums/B0FXG4DWMN?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_JkiSKAavi690NYUB4AVDtCi03)
Amie McNee - We Need Your Art: Stop Messing Around and Make Something - https://www.amazon.com/We-Need-Your-Art-Something/dp/0593833007 (https://www.amazon.com/We-Need-Your-Art-Something/dp/0593833007)
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