Lissette Alvarez Holland (aka Dr. Lisa,) has been helping women enjoy the human experience of their curvier hustle and divine design for over two decades. After her move into peer leadership and relational development she is bringing her body intelligence and ecological economy frameworks front and center. Listen in to a variety of ways allied health pros, health adjacent care services and civics will become the new infrastructure of community health. Listen in to prepare now for taking advantage of even more opportunities being created in women's health, safer AI, and community care and avoid recreating the bottleneck mistakes of sick care centered medicine.
Owning HER Health podcast
Claim This Podcastby Dr Lisa Holland DPT, AT, WHNC, CAP
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Lissette Alvarez Holland (aka Dr. Lisa,) has been helping women enjoy the human experience of their curvier hustle and divine design for over two decades. After her move into peer leadership and relational development she is bringing her body intelligence and ecological economy frameworks front and center. Listen in to a variety of ways allied health pros, health adjacent care services and civics will become the new infrastructure of community health. Listen in to prepare now for taking advantage of even more opportunities being created in women's health, safer AI, and community care and avoid recreating the bottleneck mistakes of sick care centered medicine.
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June 8, 2026
They Ignored HER Body
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Is AI Intelligent or Conscious and What About The Humans?</h3> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">Thank you for tuning in!</p> <p data-pm-slice="1 1 []">The more I study this AI conversation, the more I am so damn happy I have studied humans for over 30 years and spent 20 of those years bridgebuilding a tradtional Raja/ Jnana yogic wisdom into the human condition. I have been writing on everything from the Pope and cyborgs to AI bias in diagnostics, right back to my core values and human consciousness when thinking about AI ethics. As I listen to the many AI spaces being held, the more I realize I am in such a rare position. My curvy path getting from being a typical pre med reasoning student 30 years ago, to ending up a bit of an game changer on how care was delivered to then feeling that time inside the arena as a provider was complete has always been walked from the role of an avant- guard observer. That is likely why it feels like wanting to be on the side of the humans, the ones taking on the most risks of liabilities inside the AI healthcare conversations, feels like the yoga I have always been doing.</p> <p><img src= "//assets.libsyn.com/show/88874/They_ignored_HER_Body_OHH.jpg" alt= "Thumbnail Dr Lisa Owning HER Health " width="720" height= "480" /></p> <p>Instead of using a frame of spirituality, In this podcast/ Substack share, I rather speak in the paradigm of consciousness. This is because STEM conversations can relate to that now so as I take a topic from the public podcast to more depth over on my Substack, I see the language will be more consistent.</p> <p>In today's podcast I stick to the body and what Owning HER health has become inside all these ongoing "Intelligence" conversations. In my show and the tangent Substack I am writing, I discuss how intelligence relates to wisdom and consciousness because women embody all three in a way we need to begin to reclaim. </p> <p>As I suggest in this episode, none of the science right now is technically new. We did not discover much after antibiotics and a deeper genome understanding. What we did gather and discover was more information. We have the data. With AI we have more and more data and we have the computational speeds and advantage of large amounts of pattern recognition. We see the patterns and created the knowledge systems and made those knowledge systems into the sciences, engineering, technology development and medicine but those 4 realms of STEM are rooted in the humanities, and the arts which keep them anchored in truth and that will always be sustaining.</p> <p>Listen in on how I am creating a link between our wombs, hearts and heads on this as well as how we can begin to become ecologically engaged and intuitively knowing enough to keep wondering. Women need a Lifeschool for after we are just completely done from being extracted from but not done with contributing. That is what Menopause was supposed to usher in. Discover what I call a tripart Biospiritual Ecology of Owning our health via the acceptance and resolution between the Head, Heart and Gut Intelligence. If you want to dive in deeper, Subscribe and support the Substack. </p>
May 21, 2026
Bypassing Human Friction for Artificial Control
<h3 data-pm-slice="1 1 []"><strong>Key Points Overview</strong></h3> <ul> <li> <p><strong>The Refusal of Evolutionary Integration:</strong> Evolutionary dead-ends historically occurred when hominids prioritized dominance and self-deification over ecological partnership. Silicon Valley is repeating this trajectory by attempting to engineer a technology that bypasses our biological and spiritual ecology.</p> </li> <li> <p><strong>The Pathology of Friction Removal:</strong> Technological evolution over the last two decades has been an ongoing effort to codify and institutionalize individual social discomfort. Major platforms were explicitly built to redefine human connection into controllable, digital interfaces to avoid the friction of real psychological maturity.</p> </li> <li> <p><strong>The Linguistic Shift from Humans to Agents:</strong> The evolution of the digital landscape has deliberately shifted vocabulary from organic concepts like "friends" to artificial entities like "agents." This vocabulary tracks a corresponding removal of relational intelligence and authentic human presence.</p> </li> <li> <p><strong>Fabricated Demand and Psych-Ops Economics:</strong> By merging technical logic with hyper-capitalism, tech monopolies abandoned the traditional parameters of supply and demand. Instead, they weaponized psychological operations and advertising playbooks to fabricate human deficits, scaling extraction under the banner of "innovation."</p> </li> <li> <p><strong>The Myth of Exhausted Human Intelligence:</strong> The tech elite operates on the arrogant assumption that humanity has exhausted its understanding of its own internal technologies (intuition, somatic integration, ancient wisdom). This premise justifies the reckless rollout of uncontrolled artificial systems before our own psychological and governance models have matured. </p> </li> </ul> <p>Own a health clinic or care business and confused about this AI in Human risks and Healthcare talk???</p> <p>I write a Substack and have another podcast focused on exploring the future of healthcare work, human sustainability, and how health leaders get to redesign and redefine community health in the AI era. Subscribe <a href= "https://curvyhustle.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-natural-exhausted-intelligence" target="_blank" rel="noopener">HERE</a>. </p> <h3> </h3>
May 21, 2026
We Didn't Forget to Design the System. They Just Never Designed It For Us.
<h3 class="text-text-100 mt-3 -mb-1 text-[1.125rem] font-bold">Full Summary (with Timestamps where available)</h3> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:00:00 – 00:00:25) — Opening and Reframe: AI Care and the Systems We Forgot to Design</strong> Dr. Lisa opens as founder of MindBody Enterprises and situates the episode's focus: AI care and what happens when AI is being layered onto systems that were never properly built in the first place. She names this as the central problem — not AI itself, but the broken infrastructure it is being inserted into.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:00:25 – 00:02:10) — Who She Is and Why She Pivoted: From Clinician to Systems Architect</strong> She reintroduces herself for new listeners: a clinician who moved into leadership development after seeing that the root problem wasn't individual patient outcomes — it was the systemic conditions preventing women in the care economy from doing their work sustainably. She closes the Belly Guru chapter and opens MindBody Enterprises specifically because she saw the design gap: not in what women were building, but in the fact that the larger system was never building for them.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:02:10 – 00:04:15) — Third Wave Feminism and the Design Gap</strong> This is one of the episode's most pointed passages. She speaks directly to Gen X women who fought their way into institutions — got the career, got the paycheck, got the seat at the table — and then discovered it wasn't working. Not because they failed, but because they were trying to operate within a system designed around a different body, a different cycle, a different set of values. The system wasn't designed for them. Third-wave feminism got women in the room. Nobody redesigned the room.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:04:15 – 00:06:30) — The Care Economy Was Always Being Designed — Just Not By the People in Charge</strong> She pushes back on the narrative that the care economy was forgotten or neglected by design. It wasn't forgotten — it was deliberately excluded. Women, community health workers, doulas, midwives, yoga therapists, peer providers: they have been designing and running systems of care for decades. The oligarchs of the 1920s — and their contemporary equivalents — were never building for those systems. They were building against them. She names the current political administration's nostalgia for the gilded age and the extractive economics of the 1800s as the most visible expression of this dynamic.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:06:30 – 00:08:00) — What "Scaling" Actually Means for Women in Care</strong> She redefines scale for her audience. Scaling is not building a multi-million dollar enterprise. Scaling is optimizing your household, your small clinic, your nonprofit, your community. Women have been doing this for generations — in grandmothering, in volunteer work, in the horizontal networks of care that hold communities together. The problem is not that they haven't been scaling. The problem is that the larger system refuses to assign that work economic value. And they are now trying to plug AI into that same undervalued infrastructure and call it innovation.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:08:00 – 00:10:30) — Bio-Spiritual Ecology, Ecological Economics, and the Curvy Hustle</strong> She names her frameworks explicitly: Bio-Spiritual Ecology, Ecological Economics, and the Curvy Hustle. These are not abstract concepts — they are the operational and philosophical architecture for building community health infrastructure that is regenerative rather than extractive. She traces the lineage from the Belly Guru's yoga for MS patients, to the Mind Over Body Pain work, to the Goddess Mastermind, to MindBody Enterprises — each iteration deepening her understanding of what it takes to build economic models that don't require women to choose between their values and their survival.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:10:30 – 00:13:00) — Where She Works Now: The Intersection of Human Design, Community Health, and Technology Integration</strong> She names her current positioning clearly: her work sits at the intersection of human design, community health infrastructure, and what it actually takes to integrate technology without degrading people in the process. She gives the Oracle layoff — 20,000–30,000 employees waking up to a termination email at 6 AM — as the starkest current example of what happens when institutions treat technology as a replacement for human systems rather than an enhancement of them. That is not efficiency. That is extraction wearing the costume of innovation.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:13:00 – 00:15:30) — The EMR Parallel: We Have Seen This Exact Playbook Before</strong> This section is clinically precise and historically grounded. She takes listeners back to 2011, sitting in a lunch meeting being trained on how to get five-star patient experience ratings using the Disney method — while drowning in paper charts, underfunded, and being told there was no budget for expanding maternal care access to the maternity floor. The EMR rollout was being sold as an efficiency tool while simultaneously adding documentation burden to clinicians who were already out of time. AI is being sold the same way today. The playbook is identical. The people implementing it still don't understand what was already broken underneath.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:15:30 – 00:18:00) — What AI Actually Creates for Women in Allied Health</strong> She pivots to possibility. AI will create new roles. It will not simply replace jobs — it will restructure them in ways that are particularly well-suited to systems thinkers, community-embedded practitioners, and maternal-minded providers. The person at the front desk who is extraordinary at human connection can stop doing intake paperwork and start doing what they are actually gifted at. The clinician who was forced to spend half their session on documentation can now return to the relational work that produces outcomes. This is not utopian. It is a structural redesign opportunity — but only if the human systems underneath are properly mapped and protected first.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:18:00 – 00:20:30) — The Maternal Authority Framework: Redefining What Leadership Looks Like</strong> She draws a clear distinction between paternal authority as it has been distorted (winner-takes-all, king-is-fine, domination) and maternal authority as a legitimate leadership model — one that centralizes care, protects the most vulnerable, and designs for collective flourishing rather than personal accumulation. She is explicit that this is not about femininity or gender identity — it is about a set of values and a design orientation. The only people who can reclaim what healthy paternal authority could be are the people already exercising maternal authority in their institutions and communities.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:20:30 – 00:23:00) — The Silo Problem and Why We Must Stop Working in Isolation</strong> She names the structural problem that keeps purpose-driven practitioners from building lasting community infrastructure: silos. Individual practitioners who have done their identity work, know their values, and are running regenerative models — but operating entirely alone. The moment they cannot build coalition, they hit a ceiling. The institutions that could support them (hospitals, healthcare systems, insurance companies) are not structurally designed to recognize or fund them. And the legal and financial capacity to challenge that exclusion is absent at the community level while the large players break rules until told to stop.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:23:00 – 00:26:00) — What Human Systems Integration Actually Looks Like in Practice</strong> This is the service offering, stated plainly. Most organizations approach AI as a tool implementation problem — where do we plug this in? What she offers is a Human Systems Integration assessment: what platforms are you already on, where are the deficits, where was the technology never meeting the human interface in the first place, and how do we optimize the existing structure before layering anything new on top of it. She distinguishes between rearranging a broken system and replacing it — and positions the role of the Human Systems Integrator as the practitioner who can tell the difference.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:26:00 – 00:28:30) — The Real Problem in Women's Health Practices: It Was Never the Tools</strong> She speaks directly to pelvic health and women's health practitioners. The problem in most of these practices is not that they need a better AI scheduling system or a smarter billing automation. The problem is workflows that already depended on overextension — too many patients, too few visits covered by insurance, too little time for the relational and diagnostic depth the work requires. Plugging AI into that system without fixing the underlying design just automates the burnout. The solution she offers: use AI to free up the relational capacity that was always the product, and restructure the economics around that.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:28:30 – 00:31:00) — The Historical Pattern: Extraction, Collapse, Reconstruction</strong> She names the current political and economic moment as part of a recognizable historical arc — the gilded age extraction, the 1920s crash, Reconstruction and the burning of Black Wall Street, the rewriting of history, and the intergenerational transmission of that knowledge through voice when the written record was suppressed. She draws a direct line from those historical moments to now: the same families, the same extractive logic, the same cronies — now operating on an international scale with AI as the latest instrument. The pattern is not hidden. The question is whether we wait for the collapse or design the alternative now.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:31:00 – 00:34:00) — Community-Embedded Care as the Model: The Belly Guru as Proof of Concept</strong> Before AI entered the conversation, Dr. Lisa was already running the model she is now proposing at scale: group-based wellness, community-embedded delivery, horizontal access, early technology integration for reach rather than replacement. The Belly Guru was not just a brand. It was a proof of concept for what care economics can look like when the human systems are centered. That model — updated, AI-augmented, and connected to a broader network of practitioners doing the same work — is what she is now building through MindBody Enterprises and the Owning HER Health platform.</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <strong>(00:34:00 – end) — The Invitation: Substack, Round Tables, Founding Sponsorship</strong> The Owning HER Health Afterglow Substack is where the deeper work lives — private podcast, round tables, the operational specifics of applying this framework to real practices and organizations. She offers a proposal intake (not a sales funnel — a diagnostic conversation), founding sponsorship at a monthly or annual level, and a commitment that nobody who shows up for this work gets left behind. </p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> If you own a small consierge practice or boutique clinic that relies on trust, integrity and quality, and are ready to slow down on AI conversations and include some governance conversations,</p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> <a href="https://forms.gle/8XWpAh8jg8WqwYui8" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Fill out an advisory form </a>to book some time to attack that. </p> <p class= "font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal leading-[1.7]"> You will leave the call having the resources for building the infrastructure that serves you, your staff and the community.</p>
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