
Palliatively Speaking
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<p>In this podcast, host Toby Campbell dives into the inspiring journeys of clinicians from all corners of palliative care. You’ll hear from palliative care physicians, nurses, social workers, scientists, and chaplains who are making a profound impact through their groundbreaking research, advocacy work, innovative tools, and, of course, by being there for patients and families in their most vulnerable moments. </p> <p>We’ll explore what drives them, how they got started, the challenges they've faced, and those moments of clarity that changed everything. Stick around; you’re about to be inspired and transformed.</p>
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March 17, 2026
Palliatively Speaking Ep 14 - Teaching the World Palliative Care
In this episode of "Palliatively Speaking" host Toby Campbell interviews Dr. Judith Paice, the director of the Cancer Pain Program at Northwestern Memorial Hospital and co-chair of the 2023 American Society of Clinical Oncology guideline on opioid use for cancer pain. The conversation explores Dr. Paice's 25-year involvement with the End-of-Life Nursing Education Consortium (ELNEC), a train-the-trainer program that has reached millions of healthcare professionals worldwide. Dr. Paice discusses how ELNEC started with five planned courses, and then expanded to over 300 courses translated into multiple languages. The curriculum has been adapted for various audiences, including pediatric nurses, advanced practice nurses, and faculty. Using personal stories and anecdotes, Dr. Paice gives a closer look at the critical challenges in pain management, particularly the tension between managing cancer pain and the opioid epidemic. She emphasizes that oncology clinicians face unique pressures as they navigate both cancer pain management and opioid safety concerns. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the importance of primary palliative care education for all oncology providers, not just specialist palliative care teams. Later in the episode, Dr. Paice is joined by Sarah Lowery, a nurse practitioner at OHSU and ELNEC international trainer, and a mentee of Dr. Paice. Both speakers reflect on mentorship as essential to professional development and organizational sustainability. Dr. Paice advises emerging leaders to recognize their unique contributions, overcome imposter syndrome, and offers tips for identifying potential mentees for a successful collaborative relationship.

February 25, 2026
Palliatively Speaking Ep 13 - Saving Hospice
In this special episode, Toby Campbell sits down with palliative care legend Dr. Ira Byock for a candid, far-reaching conversation about the field's origins, its current challenges, and the path forward. Joined by the CEO of the Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC), Brynn Bowman, Byock reflects on his early days as a rural family medicine resident drawn to patients "put down the hall" and forgotten—a pull that would lead him to become one of hospice and palliative care's most influential voices. Forty years later, Byock pulls no punches in assessing the field he helped build. He calls out the "epidemic" of fraudulent hospice programs, the unacceptable variability in quality, and what he sees as palliative care's timidity in advocating for itself. According to Dr. Byock, the solution to these challenges lies in establishing clear clinical and programmatic standards and a willingness to embrace, rather than hide from, healthcare's capitalist reality. Brynn Bowman offers a generational counterpoint, acknowledging the field's growing pains while finding reasons for optimism: culture change, an undeniable value proposition, and emerging work on quality standards that could finally separate excellent care from the merely mediocre. In this special episode, Toby Campbell sits down with palliative care legend Dr. Ira Byock for a candid, far-reaching conversation about the field's origins, its current challenges, and the path forward. Joined by the CEO of the Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC), Brynn Bowman, Byock reflects on his early days as a rural family medicine resident drawn to patients "put down the hall" and forgotten—a pull that would lead him to become one of hospice and palliative care's most influential voices. Forty years later, Byock pulls no punches in assessing the field he helped build. He calls out the "epidemic" of fraudulent hospice programs, the unacceptable variability in quality, and what he sees as palliative care's timidity in advocating for itself. According to Dr. Byock, the solution to these challenges lies in establishing clear clinical and programmatic standards and a willingness to embrace, rather than hide from, healthcare's capitalist reality. Brynn Bowman offers a generational counterpoint, acknowledging the field's growing pains while finding reasons for optimism: culture change, an undeniable value proposition, and emerging work on quality standards that could finally separate excellent care from the merely mediocre. This episode is a master class in leadership, honesty, and the courage to speak truth—even to the field you love.

January 13, 2026
Palliatively Speaking Ep 12 - Empowering All The Caregivers
In this thoughtful and engaging episode, geriatric and palliative care nurse scientist Dr. AB Brody shatters illusions about dementia care with hard-won wisdom. Having witnessed his own grandparents suffer through a system that prioritized medical protocols over human dignity, Brody now leads a quiet revolution in how we support caregivers. The most important revelation? In the marathon of supporting caregivers, we've been asking the wrong question. Not "What's wrong?" but "What's going right?". This simple flip was honed through years of house calls and hospice work. It uncovers hidden reservoirs of strength in both patients and caregivers. Through his nonprofit Oliviato Health, Brody bridges the dangerous gap between research and reality, developing tools and resources that reach caregivers where they are and help healthcare systems adopt evidence-based practices that would elevate hospice care. Dr. Brody recounts how hospice teams, when properly supported, can transform from crisis managers to guardians of quality life. Dr. Brody is joined by the community leader, Elder Denise Lawson. His community engagement work with Elder Denise proves that true change happens not in ivory towers, but in church basements and living rooms where caregivers gather. We're failing dementia families not from lack of science, but lack of imagination. The solution lies in listening to caregivers' wisdom, to patients' unspoken needs, and to those fleeting moments of connection that make the unbearable bearable. As Brody puts it: "Caregiving isn't a problem to solve. It's a relationship to honor."
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- What is Palliatively Speaking?
<p>In this podcast, host Toby Campbell dives into the inspiring journeys of clinicians from all corners of palliative care. You’ll hear from palliative care physicians, nurses, social workers, scientists, and chaplains who are making a profound impact through their groundbreaking research, advocacy work, innovative tools, and, of course, by being there for patients and families in their most vulnerable moments. </p> <p>We’ll explore what drives them, how they got started, the challenges they've faced, and those moments of clarity that changed everything. Stick around; you’re about to be inspired and transformed.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates daily.
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This podcast is available on 7 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.
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