The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger. Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you. In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet. Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists. PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
Post-Growth Australia Podcast
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The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger. Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you. In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet. Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists. PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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July 6, 2026
How Do We Plan For Albany’s Growth - Live at the Albany Public Library
<p>After a two-month break, PGAP returns with a live recording of the Albany community forum: “How do We Plan for Albany's Growth: Perspectives on Degrowth and eco-friendly design.”</p> <p>This event was coordinated by the Albany Community Environment Centre (ACEC) to address the ‘big picture issues’ impacting many of the single-issue conservation campaigns impacting one of Australia’s fastest growing regional cities.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/D-_mbbFO.jpg" alt="ACEC event"></p> <p>PGAP host Michael Bayliss was one of three panelists at the event, including Julie de Jong, director of H+H Architects, and Paul Kotsoglo, town planner.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/zT-Z8H4F.jpg" alt="Michael and Julie"><br> Michael Bayliss and Julie de Jong</p> <p>The three panellists spoke to the following forum questions:</p> <ul> <li>Is it possible to plan for Albany’s future growth so that the lessons learnt from the Yakamia experience are not repeated?</li> <li>Is future growth possible without impacting further on our natural environment or social amenities?</li> <li>If not, is it time we rethink Albany’s growth altogether?</li> </ul> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/jxuY4Jjr.jpg" alt="PaulKotsoglo"><br> Paul Kotsoglo</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/ZMFROVD5.jpg" alt="Lynn Maclaren"><br> Lynn MacLaren, MC</p> <p>Response and feedback from forum attendees demonstrated an appetite for broader discussions on questioning growth, including Degrowth principes and population policy.</p> <p>All three presentation were recorded live at the event, now on PGAP for posterity. We are also pleased to provide a link to Michael’s <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/articles/michael-bayliss-speech-notes-to-albany-growth-forum" rel="nofollow noopener">speech script</a> and <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/articles/paul-kotsoglo-slides" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul’s slides</a>, both available from the<a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/articles" rel="nofollow noopener"> PGAP blog.</a></p> <p>In other news, PGAP now sits comfortably within the top 5% of global podcasts and has reached a new milestone of 40,000 downloads. This is thanks to our wonderful community of listeners and supporters, who are active in sharing this podcast through word of mouth. If you would like to help us reach the top 1% of global podcasts, you can help us out greatly by:</p> <ul> <li>Sharing this episode with your networks</li> <li>Leaving a rating and/or review on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow noopener">Apple Podcast</a></li> <li>Reaching out to PGAP via our <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow noopener">contact form</a> with your feedback, thoughts and suggestions</li> </ul> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/9YZvbCm5.png" alt="ListenNotes"></p> <p>Many thanks to <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow noopener">Sustainable Population Australia</a>, who provide the perfect mix of support for this podcast, while allowing us the space to work independently. We really appreciate SPA’s new campaign theme: ‘Live Within Limits’. Did you know that SPA has a <a href="https://population.org.au/sign-the-spa-position-statement/" rel="nofollow noopener">position statement</a>, calling for an end to population growth in Australia? At time of writing, they are 20 signatures short of achieving a milestone of 20,000. If you resonate with the position statement, we warmly welcome your assistance in helping SPA reach this magic number.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/_0UrbsFa.jpg" alt="livewithinlimits"></p> <p>Time stamp:</p> <p>Start to 00:05:50 - Introduction<br> 00:05:50 to 00:32:38 – MC Lynn MacLaren and first speaker, Julie de Jong<br> 00:32:38 to 00:34:36 – First intermission<br> 00:34:36 to 00:56:26 – Second speaker, Paul Kotsoglo<br> 00:56:26 to 00:58:36 - Second intermission<br> 00:58:36 to End – Third speaker, Michael Bayliss</p>
April 20, 2026
Citizen Assemblies for a Democratic, Post-Growth Future with Peter Tait
<p>In this episode of PGAP, host Michael Bayliss welcomes special guest Peter Tait, convenor of the <a href="https://canberra-alliance.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Canberra Alliance for Participatory Democracy</a>. Peter discusses the critical importance of citizen participation in the democratic process and how citizen assemblies have great potential in building momentum on issues such as planned Degrowth and population policy.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/VoYqYhmz.jpg" alt="petertait"></p> <p>Peter Tait has been a General Practitioner for over 40 years, 30 of them in Aboriginal health in Central Australia. He was 2007 RACGP General Practitioner of the Year and 2017 Public Health Association Australia Sidney Sax medalist. He teaches Population Health at ANU.</p> <p>You can find out more about the Canberra Alliance for Participatory Democracy <a href="https://canberra-alliance.org.au/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. Peter represented CAPaD at the New Economy Network Australia (NENA) conference in 2025. </p> <p>Did you like this episode and want to explore more PGAP episodes? We recommend the premiere episode for this season with <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/marcuschamp" rel="nofollow">Marcus Champ</a>, representing Public Money, Public Good, who also presented at the NENA conference. Or listen to the NENA conference coordinator, Tiyana Jovanovic, <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/voicesneweconomy" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. For a slightly older episode, our interview with <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/pathsustainableciv" rel="nofollow">Mark Diesendorf</a> explored issues referred to in this episode such as state capture of government policy.</p> <p>For further reading, you may be interested in Michael’s blog article for <a href="https://www.populationmedia.org/the-latest/population-growth-and-wealth-inequality" rel="nofollow">Population Media Centre</a>, which argues why large and rapidly growing populations can dilute democracy. This is explored further in my article on The Overpopulation Project: “<a href="https://overpopulation-project.com/the-planet-cannot-hold-the-weight-of-8-2-billion-narratives-heres-why/" rel="nofollow">The Planet Cannot Hold the Weight of 8.2 billion Narratives</a>.” During the interview, Peter explains the concept of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocracy" rel="nofollow">Sociocracy</a> and its capacity to achieve consensus even with large and disperse populations.</p> <p>In the episode introduction, Michael reflects on his recent presentation on Degrowth at Perth’s Curtin University. Aiming to engage students emotionally with Degrowth as a moral imperative, the feedback was hugely encouraging, as the below photo hopefully attests.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/t1qlQe6O.jpg" alt="michaelclass"><br> Michael at back centre</p> <p>PGAP will be on a break over the next couple of months. In the meantime, Michael is offering a free Sustainable Population Mug, for every review of PGAP on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>. All you need to do – after writing the review – is contact PGAP on our <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">CONTACT FORM</a> and Michael will respond on his return. In the down time, we also encourage you to engage at least one person on the issue of Degrowth, please write to us and let us know how your conversation went.</p> <p>All views, opinions and past legacies of PGAP guests are exclusively theirs and do not necessarily reflect those of PGAP or <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Peter Tait.</p>
March 26, 2026
Meet the host of new NENA podcast -Tiyana Jovanovic
<p>This year, the New Economy Network Australia (NENA), launched a new podcast, ‘Voices of the New Economy’ hosted by Dr Tiyana Jovanovic. For this very special episode of PGAP, we catch up with Tiyana to tell us more about this new exciting podcast series, and how podcasting is an important storytelling tool to encourage and facilitate change.</p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/oQLBCl-Z.jpg" alt="vers2tjcoverart"></p> <p>Also in this episode:</p> <p>Tiyana explores her journey within <a href="https://www.neweconomy.org.au/" rel="nofollow">NENA </a>over the past three years, including her coordination roles on the board of directors, strategic direction group, coordination hub, and storytelling hub. She also shares her work and advocacy beyond NENA, as founder of the of <a href="https://humanitarianchangemakers.com/" rel="nofollow">Humanitarian Changemakers Network</a> and host of the <a href="https://changingtimesnews.org/podcasts/changemaker-qa/" rel="nofollow">Changemaker QandA podcast</a>.</p> <p>Tiyana discusses her recent PHD work, in which she redefined concepts such as ‘empowerment’, ‘resilience’ ‘adaptability’ and ‘sustainability’. She describes how her work with women and communities in rural India informed her research. We discuss how the broader post-growth movement can benefit from a deeper understanding on the dynamics of empowerment and resilience.</p> <p>Finally, Tiyana shares with us her personal vision for a day in the life in a new economy, post-growth world.</p> <p><strong>Did you know</strong> - PGAP host Michael Bayliss was also a recent guest on the ‘<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/12-urban-planning-ecology-and-michael-bayliss-on-post/id1866029148?i=1000756013358" rel="nofollow">Voices of the New Economy</a>’ podcast. You can even watch the conversation on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGlR9JaCZ_I" rel="nofollow">YouTube.</a></p> <p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/VgLDTk4i.png" alt="myinterview"></p> <p>In this episode, I invite listeners to hold one face to face conversation with at least one other person who is new to degrowth. Please <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">CONTACT U</a>S on PGAP if you would like any tips before your conversation. Otherwise, let us know how your conversation went. It is very important that we all do what we can to make post-growth a mainstream issue, as the world is on brink of disaster. If you can, we would appreciate you taking the time to share this and other episodes of PGAP with your networks, or rate and review us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.</p> <p>*Links for further exploration: *</p> <ul> <li><p>Tiyana’s non-linear approach to change/growth is discussed in the context of rethinking sustainability at the Australian Earth Laws Alliance conference last year: <a href="https://youtu.be/9XvAJyn0Gc0?si=KNiVxCwgLdRLwY8T" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/9XvAJyn0Gc0?si=KNiVxCwgLdRLwY8T</a></p></li> <li><p>Tiyana’s empowerment framework (which can be applied to how we think about the role of an economy): <a href="https://youtu.be/4z1e6EM2GOk?si=qXI4TXPOP0uqk9Mb" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/4z1e6EM2GOk?si=qXI4TXPOP0uqk9Mb</a> </p></li> </ul> <p>You may be interested in the past NENA themed PGAP episodes:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/4" rel="nofollow">Reimagine a Earth Centered Economy with Michelle Maloney </a></li> <li><a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/nena2023" rel="nofollow">PGAP live at the NENA conference: Life After Capitalism</a></li> </ul> <p>PGAP is made possible through the support of <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>. All perspectives, views and legacies of PGAP guests are exclusively theirs and do not always reflect those of PGAP or SPA.</p> <p><strong>Timestamp:</strong><br> Intro: Start – 05:10<br> Interview part 1: 05:10 – 32:47<br> Intermission: 32:47 – 35:05<br> Interview part 1: 35:05 – 56:46</p><p>Special Guest: Tiyana Jovanovic.</p>
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