Join host Mike Budden as he chats to key figures in the field of pronunciation in English Language Teaching.
This special anniversary podcast series celebrates 40 years of PronSIG—the IATEFL Pronunciation Special Interest Group. PronSIG has been at the forefront of the practice and theory of pronunciation teaching since 1986.
Mark Hancock on publishing, creativity, listening and accent diversity
In this episode, I, Mike Budden, chat to Mark Hancock.
Mark and I start off talking about artistic creativity in art and materials design and we cover topics such as the facilitating learning through experimentation in the classroom; English as a global language and its different role to languages such as Italian, understanding learners goals, his published materials such as Pronunciation Games, micro listening and his shifting focus from pronunciation to listening.
It was such a pleasure chatting to him on this episode, the author of such respected publications for pronunciation teaching materials such as Pronunciation Games and the more recently PronPack series.
I hope you enjoy the episode.
17 Sept 2026
Catarina Pontes on pronunciation, teacher development and English in Brazil
In this episode, Mike talks to Catarina Pontes, teacher educator, former PronSIG coordinator and Vice President of BRAZ-TESOL, about her career in English language teaching and her long-standing passion for pronunciation.
Catarina reflects on how her interest in phonology began, how her approach to pronunciation and teacher education has developed over the years, and the changing landscape of English language education in Brazil.
Topics include:
Catarina’s first encounters with phonology and pronunciation teaching
Her involvement with PronSIG and its influence on her professional development
Moving from language teaching into teacher education
How pronunciation teacher training has changed over the past decade
Using learners’ first languages to develop pronunciation awareness
Connected speech, intelligibility and exposure to different varieties of English
Using voice recordings to help learners notice their own pronunciation
English language teaching and the growth of bilingual education in Brazil
BRAZ-TESOL and international collaboration
Preparing teachers and learners for the future through critical thinking, media literacy and other future-ready skills
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13 Aug 2026
Adrian Underhill reflects on pronunciation, the joy of learning, and a lifetime in teacher development.
In this wide-ranging conversation, Mike Budden speaks with Adrian Underhill about his life and career, from his early experiences of languages and teaching to the development of his influential phonemic chart and Sound Foundations.
Adrian discusses pronunciation as a physical skill, the limitations of “listen and repeat,” and the importance of helping learners explore sounds through muscular awareness. He also reflects on mindful practice, connected speech, performance, improvisation and the role of joy in learning.
The conversation also explores Adrian’s involvement in the early development of IATEFL’s Special Interest Groups, including the Teacher Development SIG and PronSIG, as well as the influence of Caleb Gattegno and the Silent Way on his approach to teaching.
29 Jun 2026
12 Mini Interviews from IATEFL Brighton 2026
At the recent 2026 IATEFL conference in Brighton, host Mike Budden had the opportunity to chat to speakers, researchers and teacher trainers for a series of short conversations about pronunciation teaching.
Across these mini interviews, we explore questions such as:
What are the biggest misconceptions about pronunciation teaching?
How can teachers help learners become more confident speakers?
What role do rhythm, stress and connected speech play?
Which classroom techniques have had the biggest impact?
Where is pronunciation teaching heading next?
Rather than in-depth interviews, these are concise conversations designed to introduce a wide range of perspectives from across the pronunciation teaching community.
Whether you're an experienced pronunciation specialist or simply looking to incorporate more pronunciation into your teaching, there's plenty here to spark new ideas.
The interviewees in the order they appear in the podcast episode are:
Jason Levine
Małgorzata Baran-Łucarz
Frank Bardol
Barbora Müller Dočkalová
Kristýna Červinková Poesová
Meagan Gaskell
Marisol Hernández
Tetiana Lesyk
Ioana Cretu
Ana Paula Biazon Rocha
Adrian Underhill
21 May 2026
Heather Hansen on Accent Bias, Pronunciation and Linguistic Privilege
In this episode of the PronSIG Podcast, host Mike Budden speaks with Heather Hansen, a communications trainer, author and speaker based in Singapore, who has become one of the leading voices in the fight against accent bias. Heather is the founder of Global Speech Academy, author of the award-winning book Unmuted, and is currently completing a PhD on accent bias in the workplace.
Heather reflects on her journey from speech and debate competitor in the United States to training Singapore Airlines pilots, discovering the Lingua Franca Core, and building a career working with senior professionals in multinational organisations across Asia and beyond.
The conversation explores what pronunciation coaching really looks like at executive level, why the goal of intelligibility and the reality of accent stigma often pull in opposite directions, and why telling a non-native speaker not to change their accent can itself be a form of privilege.
They also discuss the challenges of training listeners as well as speakers, the surprising complexity of working with intonation and stress patterns across different language backgrounds, and Heather's work with NASA on accent bias in the workplace.
Heather also shares her thoughts on the rapid rise of AI language tools, including accent translation technology and voice cloning apps, and why she believes these risk reproducing the same language hierarchies they claim to disrupt.
9 Apr 2026
Robin Walker reflects on accent, ELT, intelligibility, and four decades of teaching and writing about pronunciation.
In this episode of the PronSIG Podcast, host Mike Budden speaks with Robin Walker, a teacher, writer and pronunciation specialist with decades of experience teaching English in Spain and training teachers across Europe. Robin is co-author, alongside Gemma Archer, of Teaching English Pronunciation for a Global World, published by Oxford University Press, and served for many years as editor of Speak Out, the journal of PronSIG.
Robin reflects on his journey into pronunciation teaching, from arriving in Spain with a chemistry degree to becoming a key voice in the field of English as a Lingua Franca. The conversation explores what Jennifer Jenkins' Lingua Franca Core means in practice for classroom teachers, and why the assumption that native speaker accents are automatically intelligible deserves to be challenged.
They also discuss the critical distinction between accent and intelligibility, drawing on the research of Tracy Derwing and Murray Monroe, the surprising connection between pronunciation knowledge and reading comprehension via the phonological loop, and what teachers should prioritise when working with learners in international contexts.
Robin also shares reflections on his years as editor of Speak Out, including the making of the landmark 50th issue, the psychological damage that school language learning can leave on adult learners' self-esteem, and his thoughts on what human teachers offer that artificial intelligence cannot replicate.
11 Mar 2026
Jane Setter reflects on pronunciation teaching, accents, and the evolution of PronSIG.
In this episode of the PronSIG Podcast, host Mike Budden speaks with Professor Jane Setter, a leading phonetician at the University of Reading and co-editor of the Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary.
Jane reflects on her journey into pronunciation teaching, from teaching at summer language schools in the 1980s to becoming a prominent voice in the field of phonetics and pronunciation research. The conversation explores how pronunciation teaching has evolved over the past four decades — from a focus on “correct” accents to a greater emphasis on intelligibility and communication in global English.
They also discuss analytical listening skills, the legacy of Received Pronunciation, the impact of English as a Lingua Franca research, and what teachers should prioritise when helping learners develop clear and effective spoken English.
Jane also shares insights from her research on speech rhythm in Hong Kong English, her work on phonetic symbols and pronunciation dictionaries, and the social meanings attached to accent and voice.
18 Feb 2026
Jonathan Marks reflects on the early days of PronSIG, authoring coursebooks and more.
In this episode of the PronSIG Podcast, host Mike Budden talks with Jonathan Marks, founding member and former coordinator of PronSIG and author of English Pronunciation in Use (Elementary).
Jonathan reflects on his early career in the 1980s at International House Hastings and the people and experiences that led to the creation of PronSIG. He discusses how a community of teachers interested in pronunciation developed through newsletters, workshops, and conferences at a time when pronunciation was often given limited attention.
The conversation also touches on Jonathan’s personal interest in pronunciation, early encounters with phonology in teacher training, changes in pronunciation teaching over time, and wider reflections on English spelling, accent variation, and professional development in ELT.
10 Dec 2025
Gemma Archer and Adam Scott talk about PronSIG and their journey in pronunciation teaching.
PronSIG coordinators Gemma Archer and Adam Scott talk about pronunciation teaching, teacher confidence, accent diversity, and how PronSIG provides resources and community for anyone wanting to grow in this area.
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