The Puny Mortal Podcast is brought to you by the DEAD GOOD sisters, Katy and Lindsey Vigurs (Vigurs rhymes with tigers). We think that talking about all things death, dying and grief is important, so join us for episodes that delve into these topics and more.
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The Puny Mortal Podcast is brought to you by the DEAD GOOD sisters, Katy and Lindsey Vigurs (Vigurs rhymes with tigers). We think that talking about all things death, dying and grief is important, so join us for episodes that delve into these topics and more.
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September 27, 2024
Death Futures
<p><strong>Intro</strong></p> <p>In this episode, we discuss the concept of death futures and the potential technologies and experiences that could shape the end of life. </p> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Episode summary</strong></p> <p>We explore topics such as AI replicas of dead loved ones, holograms, virtual reality experiences, and the use of technology to enhance end-of-life care. We also touch on the ethical considerations of death tech and the intersection of technology and nostalgia. </p> <p>And for the last time in Season 1 of the Puny Mortal Podcast, we encourage you to 'get mortal' with us as we make our final choices (for now) for our own future funerals.</p> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <p><strong>01:02 </strong>Episode introduction</p> <p><strong>03:00 </strong>What 'death futures' conjured for KV</p> <p><strong>03:23 </strong>Black Mirror episode 'Be Right Back'</p> <p><strong>05:00 </strong>LV says some episodes of Black Mirror are now 'death-present'</p> <p><strong>05:22 </strong>Dad Bot</p> <p><strong>06:52 </strong>Abba Voyage Tour</p> <p><strong>07:27 </strong>Hollogram bands we'd like to see</p> <p><strong>08:13 </strong>Story about Emma Satchell's friend, Paula Fowler, who invested in death tech before she died in 2024, and hollogram app</p> <p><strong>11:00 </strong>San Junipero - Death Futures Black Mirror episode</p> <p><strong>14:57 </strong>Second Life</p> <p><strong>17:58 </strong>Psilocybin & end of life care</p> <p><strong>18:58 </strong>How could augmented reality have helped Dad in his final weeks?</p> <p><strong>19:54 </strong>Finding a version of Dad playing Adagio for Strings from 1969 in the garage</p> <p><strong>22:49 </strong>Tech for revisiting and replaying memories</p> <p><strong>24:49 </strong>LV tries to force KV to watch San Junipero</p> <p><strong>25:25 </strong>KV's lost owl collection</p> <p><strong>26:52 </strong>Ethical considerations</p> <p><strong>28:00 </strong>Positively Peter Vigurs - Dad's living tribute FB group that we set up the year before he died</p> <p><strong>31:59 </strong>MY FAREWELL funeral planning zine: memorial marker choices and special requests</p> <p><br></p> <p>Huge thanks to Flamingo Heights Podcast Studio in Ouseburn (Newcastle-upon-Tyne) for their help with Season 1. </p> <p>Let us know if you've got any thoughts about Season 2.</p> <p>LOVE YOU BYE</p>
September 19, 2024
Natural Burial & Decay
<p><strong>Intro</strong></p> <p>In this episode, we discuss natural burial (sometimes referred to as green burial or an eco burial) and the concept of bodily decay. </p> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Summary</strong></p> <p>We explore our own journeys in choosing future natural burials and how our feelings toward decay have evolved. We also discuss the environmental impact of cremation and the options available for eco-friendly funerals. The conversation touches on the different types of natural burial sites in the UK, the use of shrouds and eco-coffins, and the potential for community spaces in natural burial grounds.</p> <p>We end by 'getting mortal' with you and sharing a few more of our own funeral choices. We also reflect on the importance of revisiting and re-evaluating funeral choices over time.</p> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Points of clarification and links</strong></p> <ul> <li>Our death education work sees us popping up in lots of public places and events. We've had our DEAD GOOD stall at a range of markets. We could write a book about the conversations we've had with people!</li> <li>KV completed Carbon Literacy training in June 2024 with <a href="https://carbonliteracy.com/about-us/trustees/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">The Carbon Literacy Trust</a>.</li> <li>Currently the operational carbon cost of one gas-fired cremation is between <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230821-how-to-plan-a-sustainable-funeral#:~:text=A%20typical%20cremation%20in%20the,at%20208kg%20(459lb)%20CO2e." target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">126kgs CO2e</a> and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jul/09/greener-way-to-go-eco-friendly-way-dispose-of-body-burial-cremation" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">400kgs CO2e</a>. THAT IS A LOT.</li> <li>The operational carbon cost of one natural burial is between <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230821-how-to-plan-a-sustainable-funeral#:~:text=This%20involves%20burying%20a%20body,sustainability%20certification%20company%20Planet%20Mark." target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">zero kgs CO2e</a> and 11kgs CO2e.</li> <li>You can read an excellent recent research report about the carbon footprints of different funeral options <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=natural+death+cremation+carbon+footprint+uk&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB993GB994&oq=natural+death+cremation&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgDECEYnwUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRifBTIHCAQQIRifBdIBCTEwMDg3ajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here</a>.</li> <li>You can ask to be there when the coffin goes into the cremator. It's called <a href="https://www.poppysfunerals.co.uk/blog/what-really-happens-during-cremation/#:~:text=The%20'charging'%20is%20when%20the,special%20slot%20ahead%20of%20time." target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">witnessing the charge</a>. Sometimes it costs a bit more to do this.</li> </ul> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <p><strong>01:02 </strong>Intro to episode</p> <p><strong>02:00 </strong>Common initial response to burial (fear of worms and claustrophobia</p> <p><strong>03:00 </strong>Cremation facts</p> <p><strong>05:17 </strong>What is a natural burial?</p> <p><strong>09:02 </strong>How did we come to choose natural burial for ourselves?</p> <p><strong>11:47 </strong>The story of Dad changing his mind from cremation to a woodland burial</p> <p><strong>17:10 </strong>The move to shrouds instead of coffins</p> <p><strong>17:49 </strong>"I welcome the worms now" KV</p> <p><strong>18:20 </strong>LV's interest in cardboard coffins as affordable option with arty decoration possibilities</p> <p><strong>20:50 </strong>The option of making your own shroud from fabrics/textiles you already own</p> <p><strong>21:48 </strong>The carbon costs of visiting a grave</p> <p><strong>25:00 </strong>The tale of Grandleberry Jam </p> <p><strong>26:00 </strong>The Wood School burial story</p> <p><strong>29:30 </strong>Our Get Mortal funeral planning using our My Farewell zine kit. We discuss the categories and our choices for 'Donations' and 'Resting Places'.</p> <p><br></p> <p>We'd love you to leave us a comment to tell us the ways in which this episode resonated with you. </p> <p><br></p> <p>Go on. Get in touch. We dare you.</p> <p><br></p> <p>LOVE YOU BYEEEEEE</p>
September 13, 2024
The Horror Genre & Death
<p><strong>Intro</strong></p> <p>In this episode of the Puny Mortal podcast, we discuss our relationship with horror films and how it connects to our experiences and emotions around death and mortality. </p> <p><br></p> <p><strong>Summary</strong></p> <p>We explore the influence of our dead dad on our interest (particularly LV's) in horror, our childhood memories of watching horror films, and the impact of horror on our perception of death and dying. </p> <p>We also discuss the different ways in which we currently engage with horror films, with KV being unable to watch them nowadays due to an extreme reaction to a zombie film in the early 2000s, and LV continuing to enjoy them as a form of escapism and thrill. </p> <p>SPOILER ALERTS IN THE NOTES & CHAPTERS BELOW.</p> <p>Listen out for LV's audio zombie impression at 15:40.</p> <p>We also discuss the connection between horror and neurodivergence, particularly in terms of disability and neurodivergent characters being portrayed as monsters or villains. We also briefly touch on the idea of creating new narratives and stories that challenge these stereotypes. </p> <p>By the way, KV drops a swear word at 17:56 and LV trumps this by uttering a worse swear word at 34:46. FFS.</p> <p>As always, we move on to discuss our own funeral plans, in the hope that it might inspire you to think about your own. Today we discuss our thoughts on 'funeral readings' and our choices for 'coffin toppers' and/or farewell flowers. You can <a href="https://www.deadgood.org/shop/resources" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">buy your funeral planning zine</a> from our webshop. Choose from a downloadable PDF you can print at home OR a riso printed kit on recycled coloured paper stock that we post to your house.</p> <p><strong>Links and points of clarification</strong></p> <ul> <li>LV and Dad bonded over their love of horror action films like the Aliens franchise, Starship Troopers, Total Recall, Silence of the Lambs, Jaws and more. </li> <li>They would often converse in everyday life via horror film quotes alone. </li> <li>Jaws <em>was </em>rated PG when we watched it in the 80s. </li> <li>LV says Jaws is in her top 10 horror films. We must find out the other 9.</li> <li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Troll </a>was the first horror film we watched (1986). We were 9 and 7. Troll is rated 15. We borrowed it by ourselves on VHS videotape from a local corner shop in Wolverhampton.</li> <li><a href="https://www.crazyaboutmagazines.com/ourshop/prod_4044465-Look-In-magazine-AHa-cover-25-January-1986.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Look In magazine</a> of the 1980s was where we got ALL our pre-teen knowledge of pop music and film stars.</li> <li>SPOILER ALERTS for the film <a href="https://youtu.be/FcDhdb6J3rM?si=afEPkh4rJ9whDXJa" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">28 Days Later</a> (see chapter timestamp below if you want to skip it). KV mentions this <a href="https://youtu.be/XZBLC0ORlS4?si=JoJ3bmx0TAeFNymU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">upsetting scene involving a crow</a>. </li> <li>KV didn't watch another horror film between 2002 and 2017 when she attempted to watch <a href="https://youtu.be/k10ETZ41q5o?si=v5HZz7ccNFCFlAn2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">The Conjuring</a> on Netflix. That didn't go well. </li> <li>LV mentions <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jenanmatari?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Jenan Matari</a> when talking about some of the underlying problematic politics of the horror genre. Watch the video <a href=" https://www.facebook.com/share/r/2dw4RyDGtLNRphXP/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here.</a></li> <li>LV hates the 'torture porn' sub-genre (not actual porn)</li> <li>She loves supernatural films. "What I'm after is make believe. I love spooky. Give me scary fairies. A grown-up version of <a href="https://youtu.be/O2yd4em1I6M?si=U7hqBWeu93FFIk4M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Labyrinth</a>."</li> <li>We briefly mention the children's book <a href="https://www.wordsandpics.org/2024/06/travels-in-time-fun-in-outback.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Bottersnikes and Gumbles</a>, which has a great chapter on the fake death and funeral of the King of the Bottersnikes. </li> <li>When LV drops the F bomb at 34:46, she does so in relation to a <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Philip Larkin poem</a>.</li> <li>LV mentions the <a href="https://www.farewellflowers.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Farewell Flowers Directory </a>- a network of UK eco flower farmers & florists.</li> </ul> <p><strong>Chapters</strong></p> <p><strong>01:00-01:45 </strong>Introduction to Episode 4</p> <p><strong>01:46-03:10 </strong>LV & our dad bonding over horror action</p> <p><strong>03:11-04:30 </strong>LV's gateway horror film on VHS</p> <p><strong>04:31-07:00 </strong>Childhood fear of Freddie Kruger</p> <p><strong>07:01-08:15 </strong>How horror films made us feel about death</p> <p><strong>08:16-09:15 </strong>Key horror films from our childhood</p> <p><strong>09:16-10:30 </strong>Why did we watch horror as children?</p> <p><strong>10:31-13:51 </strong>Pet Sematary & Stephen King</p> <p><strong>13:52-14:20 </strong> Our current relationships with horror films</p> <p><strong>14:21-19:04 </strong>28 Days Later & KV saying byeeeee to horror</p> <p><strong>19:05-20:50 </strong>Becoming a parent & horror films</p> <p><strong>20:51-24:30 </strong>From escapism to critiquing the genre</p> <p><strong>24:31-26:04 </strong>Films even LV can't watch</p> <p><strong>26:05-27:20 </strong>LV favourite horror genre</p> <p><strong>27:21-27:53 </strong>Horror as a form of memento mori?</p> <p><strong>27:54-32:25 </strong>Horror, neurodivergence & disability</p> <p><strong>32:26-37:24 </strong>KV & LV's 'get mortal' funeral plans</p>
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