The Official Podcast of NALSC, the National Association of Legal Search Consultants

Recruiter Stories
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The Official Podcast of NALSC, the National Association of Legal Search Consultants
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Recent Episodes

June 16, 2026
NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 36: Jae Um; interview by Jordan Abshire
<p>NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 36: Jae Um; interview by Jordan Abshire</p> <p>Jae Um, Chief Growth Officer and Head of Knowledge at Lumio, shares her perspective on the future of the legal industry, drawing on her experience in law firm strategy, pricing, innovation, and business development. She argues that today's legal market is becoming increasingly <strong data-start="380" data-end= "406"><span style="font-weight: normal;">fragmented and dynamic</span></strong><strong>,</strong> with firms differentiating themselves through more focused growth strategies rather than simply adding lawyers, offices, and practices.</p> <p>Jae discusses how the rise of lateral hiring, evolving partnership expectations, and rapid advances in AI are reshaping both law firm competition and lawyer careers. She emphasizes that the most successful lawyers will combine <strong data-start="772" data-end="820"><span style="font-weight: normal;">self-awareness, collaboration, and curiosity</span></strong><strong>,</strong> recognizing that modern legal practice is increasingly a team sport requiring adaptability and continuous learning.</p> <p data-start="939" data-end="1144">We also explore how recruiters can better evaluate both candidates and firms, focusing on alignment, culture, and long-term compatibility.</p> <p data-start="1146" data-end="1467" data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">Finally, Jae offers a measured view of AI's impact on the profession, suggesting that while technology will change how legal services are delivered, the relationship-driven nature of high-end legal practice—and the need to develop future generations of lawyers—will remain essential.</p>

May 19, 2026
NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 35: Tiffany Ambrose; interview by Jordan Abshire
<p data-start="113" data-end="396">Episode 35: Tiffany Ambrose; interview by Jordan Abshire. Tiffany Ambrose, Principal at Principal Recruiting and a new NALSC board member, reflects on her transition from practicing family law into legal recruiting, explaining how her desire to help people through difficult transitions naturally carried over into the recruiting profession.</p> <p data-start="398" data-end="672">She discusses how recruiting provided both a rewarding career path and greater flexibility as a mother of three, while also allowing her to build deeper professional relationships and grow her personal brand through initiatives like her "Recruiter Real Talk" webinar series.</p> <p data-start="674" data-end="914">Tiffany also shares lessons learned from the emotional highs and lows of recruiting, emphasizing the importance of resilience, networking, and putting yourself outside your comfort zone to build meaningful connections and long-term success.</p> <p data-start="916" data-end="1172" data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">Finally, she reflects on her decision to join the NALSC board, highlighting the organization's strong sense of community, ethics, and collaboration, while encouraging newer recruiters to get involved, share ideas, and actively contribute to the profession.</p>

April 17, 2026
NALSC Podcast Recruiter Stories Episode 34: Victoria Gamble
<p>Episode 34: Victoria Gamble, new NALSC Board Member; interview by Jordan Abshire. </p> <p>Victoria Gamble, founder of Gamble Partner Search and a new NALSC board member, reflects on her path into legal recruiting and the lessons that shape her partner-level work. Drawing on her experience as a Division I rower at Penn, she emphasizes <strong data-start="427" data-end="478"><span style= "font-weight: normal;">alignment, consistency, and team-first thinking</span></strong><strong>,</strong> noting that successful placements require both sides to move in sync.</p> <p data-start="551" data-end="774">She discusses her transition from in-house recruiting to launching her own firm, highlighting the importance of <strong data-start="663" data-end= "715"><span style="font-weight: normal;">self-awareness when considering entrepreneurship</span></strong> and the added demands of building and managing a business.</p> <p data-start="776" data-end="979">Victoria also underscores that partner recruiting is <strong data-start="829" data-end= "888"><span style="font-weight: normal;">long-cycle, relationship-driven, and inherently complex</span></strong><strong>,</strong> requiring persistence, trust, and problem-solving to navigate challenges and close deals.</p> <p data-start="981" data-end="1154">Finally, she reflects on the value of NALSC, emphasizing <strong data-start="1038" data-end= "1093"><span style="font-weight: normal;">community, collaboration, and relationship-building</span></strong> as essential advantages in an otherwise solitary profession.</p>
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