About Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints
Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, ""No damn cat and no damn cradle...There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you've got to be kind!"
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Max Goller
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religion & spirituality · science · society & culture
Phillip Mutebi: Secular Saint of Diversity Awareness and Human Rights
In this episode, we speak with Phillip Mutebi, the founder and executive director of HUREED (Human Rights and Economic Empowerment Development) and delve into their critical work in Uganda. As a grassroots organization dedicated to supporting people chased away from their homes, conducting prison visits, assisting with economic empowerment, and promoting community awareness, HUREED have faced the challenges of Uganda’s anti-homosexuality act head on.
11 Aug 2026
Melissa Crick: A Secular Saint of Education
Melissa Crick shares her inspiring journey of community rebuilding after the 2018 Paradise Campfire, highlighting innovative solutions, community resilience, and international collaborations with Ukraine.
14 Jul 2026
John Russell: A Secular Saint of Education
In this conversation, Max Goller interviews John Russell, a high school English teacher and debate coach, about his journey in education and debate coaching. John shares his passion for debate, the structure of speech and debate competitions, and the pathway for students to reach national levels. He discusses the importance of challenging societal norms, particularly patriarchy, and emphasizes the need for diverse representation in literature and education. The conversation highlights the transformative power of debate and literature in shaping students' perspectives and understanding of the world. In this conversation, John discusses the importance of diverse literature in American high school education, emphasizing the need for representation of various authors, including those from marginalized backgrounds. The discussion then shifts to John's time in the Peace Corps, where he reflects on the challenges and rewards of serving in Mongolia, and the cultural experiences he encountered. Overall, the conversation underscores the significance of literature and cultural exchange in shaping perspectives and fostering understanding.
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