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SAI: The Security and AI Podcast

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by Natalie Pistunovich & Ivan Kwiatkowski

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Welcome to the SAI podcast, where intellectual curiosity and technical expertise meet. Natalie is an OpenAI Developer Ambassador and Ivan is a Senior Security Researcher at Kaspersky. Together we ask questions and learn, each one bringing their expertise. We're covering the different cross sections: how can AI be used in cybersecurity, how can AI be more secure, what attacks can be done, how to prepare, etc. All the topics are introduced at a high level and occasionally we dive deeper in.

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October 1, 2023

Episode 7 - OpenAI cybersecurity grant program

<p>In this episode, Natalie and Ivan, in a conference call with members of GenAI, discuss OpenAI&#39;s cybersecurity grant program, and go over the suggestions made to applicants by the company on its webpage.</p>

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July 21, 2023

Episode 6: OWASP's Top 10 Vulnerability Classes For LLMs

<p>In this episode, we go through OWASP&#39;s recently released <a href="https://owasp.org/www-project-top-10-for-large-language-model-applications/descriptions/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">list of vulnerability classes for LLMs</a>. The list includes:</p> <ul> <li>Prompt injections</li> <li>Data leakage</li> <li>Inadequate sandboxing</li> <li>Unauthorized code execution</li> <li>SSRF vulnerabilities</li> <li>Overreliance on LLM-generated content</li> <li>Inadequate AI alignment</li> <li>Insufficient access controls</li> <li>Improper error handling</li> <li>Training data poisoning</li> </ul> <p>We note that while some of the items on this list are definitely worth mentioning, others feel a bit more disconnected from the topic of cybersecurity and likely can&#39;t be solved through technical means.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Reference: Rich Harang&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/rharang/status/1661473877623713793" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">twitter thread on the subject</a>.</p>

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June 22, 2023

Episode 5: AI and Social-Engineering

<p>This episode focuses on whether social engineering techniques, traditionally used against humans, could be leveraged against language models.</p> <p>Natalie and Ivan start by discussing the use of LLMs in capture the flag competitions, and mention the emergence of new types of challenges revolving around <a href="https://www.aicrowd.com/challenges/hackaprompt-2023" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">prompt hacking</a>. This leads the discussion towards the <a href="https://www.jailbreakchat.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">various ways</a> that can be used to circumvent a model&#39;s fine tuning. The hosts discuss the challenges and scoring systems in such competitions, as well as the potential ethical concerns in exploring the capabilities and limitations of AI language models. </p> <p>They draw parallels between AI prompt crafting and social engineering, speculating on how techniques used in human social engineering could potentially be adapted for AI prompt hacking. Overall, the conversation explores the evolving relationship between security, AI, and the ethical considerations surrounding the use of language models in hacking competitions.</p>

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What is SAI: The Security and AI Podcast?

Welcome to the SAI podcast, where intellectual curiosity and technical expertise meet.

Natalie is an OpenAI Developer Ambassador and Ivan is a Senior Security Researcher at Kaspersky.

Together we ask questions and learn, each one bringing their expertise. We're covering the different cross sections: how can AI be used in cybersecurity, how can AI be more secure, what attacks can be done, how to prepare, etc.

All the topics are introduced at a high level and occasionally we dive deeper in.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

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