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Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief

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Welcome to the “Second in Command” Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief. Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. COO Alliance is the world's leading network for the Second in Command. Cameron Herold is a top business consultant, best-selling author, and speaker. He’s the mastermind behind hundreds of companies’ exponential growth and he’s touched thousands of businesses indirectly through his work.

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July 28, 2026

Ep. 600 - Jarrett Companies COO Mike Wood - The $1M Mistake That Made His Team Stronger

Ever wonder what happens when the COO who scaled a company to $100 million realizes he was the problem?In this episode, Cameron sits down with Mike Wood, COO of Jarrett Companies, who joined a $2 million Nashville construction firm and helped grow it into seven companies doing over $100 million.They get into the machinery behind that growth: meetings from 6 to 9 a.m., five days a week, a double check on everybody in the building, and profit sharing that turns leaders into owners. Then it goes deeper. Mike opens up about learning to read at 25, the misery that followed his biggest turnaround, and the million-dollar flood where taking full ownership changed his entire team.If the noise in your head is louder than the problems on your desk, this conversation is your way out. Listen now.Sponsored by:STS Capital – A global M&A advisory firm helping entrepreneurs achieve maximum value when selling their business, with a focus on strategic buyers and life-changing exits.Learn more: <a href="https://stscapital.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stscapital.com</a><h2>Timestamped Highlights</h2>05:30 - Two million to one hundred million: why Mike had to keep replacing himself, over and over07:38 - Meetings from 6 to 9 a.m., five days a week: the double check habit that ended repeat mistakes13:16 - The six out of ten rule: why waiting two months on a problem employee costs you everything15:51 - How to create safety before a hard conversation, so people can actually hear you18:41 - The science of angry leadership: cortisol, the default mode network, and why exploding makes you dumber23:26 - More money, happy family, great job, and the most miserable he had ever been: the fish tank moment24:30 - Learning to read at 25: how a rare form of dyslexia wrote the negative script in Mike's head30:28 - "This flood is my fault": the $1 million claim that became a masterclass in taking ownership34:32 - What owners do when nobody is watching, and why every person in the building needs a double check42:10 - Inside Learn to Love Being You: removing identities, forgiveness, and rewriting the stories that haunt us<h2>About the Guest</h2>Mike Wood is the COO of Jarrett Companies, a Nashville-based commercial construction group spanning site work, paving, concrete, fire protection, and mechanical services. Since joining as an estimator and project manager, he has helped grow the business from $2 million to more than $100 million in revenue across seven companies, including a fire protection company later sold to a private equity firm. Mike is also the founder of Learn to Love Being You, a 10-week program that helps people quiet anxiety and self-doubt through the same inner work that transformed his own leadership.🔗 <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-wood-209b2629/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://jarrettcompaniesinc.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Website</a><h2>Mentioned Resources</h2><ul><li><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/jason-jarrett-7bbab912" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Jarrett</a>, CEO of Jarrett Companies</li><li><a href="https://www.learntolovebeingyou.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Learn to Love Being You</a></li><li><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250183866/extremeownership/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin</a></li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.ca/9780060839246/the-e-myth-revisited/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber</a></li><li><a href="https://www.smartsheet.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Smartsheet</a></li><li><a href="https://www.1800gotjunk.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">1-800-GOT-JUNK?</a></li></ul> <h2>Important Links</h2><ul><li>Connect with Cameron: <a href="https://rebrand.ly/6873ad" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Website</a> | <a href="https://rebrand.ly/2dcd84" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Explore the <a href="https://rebrand.ly/2c1d81" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">COO Alliance</a> - The World's Leading Community for Seconds in Command</li><li>Get Cameron's book: <a href="https://rebrand.ly/719f95" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO Book</a></li><li>Take his course: <a href="https://rebrand.ly/invest-in-your-leaders-PYB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Invest In Your Leaders Online Course</a> (Use promo code PODCAST10 before the end of the month for 10% off)</li><li>Chat or video call with AI Cameron via <a href="https://rebrand.ly/cameron-herold-7e9120" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Delphi</a></li></ul> The Second in Command Podcast is an original production hosted by Cameron Herold. Brought to you by COO Alliance. Production and editing by <a href="http://rebrand.ly/pybch2026" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast Your Brand</a>.Sponsored by:STS Capital – A global M&A advisory firm helping entrepreneurs achieve maximum value when selling their business, with a focus on strategic buyers and life-changing exits.Learn more: <a href="https://stscapital.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://stscapital.com</a>

July 23, 2026

Ep. 599 - Calix COO John Durocher - Why Your Best People May Be in the Wrong Seat

Lindsay Smith interviews Calix COO John Durocher about disrupting your company and placing your best people in the right roles for transformative growth.

July 21, 2026

Ep. 598 - What's the point of a COO?

Cameron Herold explores the essential role and ideal fit of a COO, sharing lessons on building effective systems and empowering teams for business leverage.

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What is Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief?: Welcome to the “Second in Command” Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief.

Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. COO Alliance is the world's leading network for the Second in Command.

Cameron Herold is a top business consultant, best-selling author, and speaker. He’s the mastermind behind hundreds of companies’ exponential growth and he’s touched thousands of businesses indirectly through his work.
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