Second Order Effect
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<p>Second Order Effects is hosted by Jason Shum, the CEO and founder of Closer, and John Wu, a multi-time startup Chief of Staff at Patreon and Sift, and former early stage venture investor at FirstMark Capital.</p><p></p><p>Advancements in AI are rapidly changing how we work and upending the existing best practices and first principles. Second Order Effects explores stories about operators who are pushing the boundary in how they think about and engage with AI in their day to day workflows.</p><p>They have been communicating complex technology concepts to management and customers for the last decade. They bring you this show to explain to you what AI is going to bring and change in the business world</p>
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Recent Episodes
May 14, 2025
Episode 1: How computer-use agents will takeover everything we do (with Ang Li, CEO of Simular, ex-Deepmind)
<p>Episode 1: How computer-use agents will takeover everything we do (with Ang Li, CEO of Simular, ex-Deepmind)</p><p></p><p><strong>Second Order Effects </strong>is a podcast where we explore the rapid changes in AI tools, and how experts are integrating them into their workflows.</p><p>Our episode 1 guest, Ang Li, is the co-founder and CEO of Simular, an autonomous computer startup. Join us as we discuss how his time at Google Deepmind inspired his work into AGI and Simular. During our conversation, Ang shares very insightful comments about the differences between agents and assistants, and his long-term predictions about adoption and AGI.</p><p></p><p>Some references:</p><ul><li>Try out Simular today by downloading on their <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.simular.ai/?utm_source=player&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=secondorder-ep1">Page</a></li><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://os-world.github.io/">OS World Benchmark</a></li><li>Link to <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/angli_ai">Ang’s X</a>, where he often comments about latest developments in AI</li><li>Link to Youtube video of Simular demo</li></ul><p>Some of our links:</p><ul><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@SecondOrderEffects">Youtube</a></li><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/second-order-effect/id1811825486">Apple Podcast home</a></li><li><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5IYqoncrGbdv3ZxQTM4Co1?si=72a1855559554c00">Spotify Podcast Home</a></li></ul>
May 1, 2025
Episode 0: Intros and our Vision for the Pod
<ul><li>Quick intro of both John and Jason</li><li>Respective motivations for doing this podcast, and our goals for doing this podcast</li></ul><p></p><p>Thank you to all!</p>
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- What is Second Order Effect?
<p>Second Order Effects is hosted by Jason Shum, the CEO and founder of Closer, and John Wu, a multi-time startup Chief of Staff at Patreon and Sift, and former early stage venture investor at FirstMark Capital.</p><p></p><p>Advancements in AI are rapidly changing how we work and upending the existing best practices and first principles. Second Order Effects explores stories about operators who are pushing the boundary in how they think about and engage with AI in their day to day workflows.</p><p>They have been communicating complex technology concepts to management and customers for the last decade. They bring you this show to explain to you what AI is going to bring and change in the business world</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates daily.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.
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