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Real Spirituality for Modern Life. Spirituality affects everything -- our relationships, our careers, our health -- so it should be integrated into every area of life. This is the podcast for authentic, messy, fabulous, sexy spiritual people.

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May 7, 2021

The Voice of Intuition

<div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">The Voice of Intuition</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Sexy Spirituality Episode #42</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Host</span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">: Lezli Goodwin</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span><span data-contrast="auto">Rev. Beverley Strutt, Assistant Minister at CSL East Hawaii</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Rev. </span><span data-contrast="auto">Nan Bankston, ancient lightworker and modern-day minister</span><span data-contrast="auto"> at CSL Grants Pass</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Small Talk</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <p><span data-contrast="auto">Lezli, Rev. Bev and Rev. Nan share their stories about mothering in honor of Mother’s Day.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">The Voice of Intuition</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">I’m delighted to have to lovely friends with me today, both of whom live from their deep well of intuition.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Our topic today is “The Voice of Intuition”</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Beverley, can you start us off with your personal definition of intuition?</span><span data-contrast= "auto">: </span><span data-contrast="auto"> First thing that rises up is “did I make the right choice”; however today, it is the voice I hear inside that is literally a constant guide.  I don’t even question it.  I listen and just do.  In hindsight I recognize it as that internal guidance of the Divine.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Nan:  Shows up for me as a deep knowingness without </span><span data-contrast= "auto">question</span><span data-contrast="auto"> that I’m making the right turn or decision.  There is ease.  I just know I am always guided and directed and it is always life affirming.</span><span data-contrast= "auto">  </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Life Affirming:  moving us in a positive direction, never cruel, never takes.  A giving and a guiding.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Nan:  Anything that looks smells or sounds like fear is not intuitive.  Life affirming for me  is</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">also based in loving action for myself and others</span><span data-contrast="auto">; not </span><span data-contrast="auto">a knee jerk response.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Bev:  Over time listening to </span><span data-contrast= "auto">intuition,</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">we allow the opening so when we hear it we tend to choose it.  Then there’s no doing anymore, we are just flowing.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Nan:  Intuition is always flowing down stream and it’s easy.  If </span><span data-contrast="auto">I’m</span><span data-contrast="auto"> trying to fight my way upstream that is not intuitive insight.  It’s always easy and </span><span data-contrast="auto">down stream</span><span data-contrast= "auto">.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Lezli:  I’m hearing Karen Drucker</span><span data-contrast="auto">’s “Let go of the Shore”</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">How would you advise people to nurture their intuition? Nan:  </span><span data-contrast= "auto">There must be a </span><span data-contrast= "auto">connection</span><span data-contrast="auto"> to source.  The more time in communion with that presence, the more I developed the relationship that supported me to be able to receive the wisdom.  So, be </span><span data-contrast= "auto">still.  Be with yourself, your source energy and be open to receive.  This will develop a sense of confidence.  It takes consistency persistent and patien</span><span data-contrast= "auto">ce.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Bev:  It’s about reflection and connecting the dots</span><span data-contrast="auto"> because often we fail to look back enough to see what happened that led to where we are.  We then learn to trust the voice of intuition.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Lezli: </span><span data-contrast= "auto">B</span><span data-contrast="auto">e in the listening, in the silence, pay attention to what has happened.  I also like journaling as reflecting and on the flip side, we can actively invite the opportunities to notice intuition in the present.  Practice on silly things; should I eat soup or carrot?  A feeling rises up from the inside and we then can learn what that feels like rising up within.  </span><span data-ccp-props="{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Bev: Willingness</span><span data-contrast="auto"> and d</span><span data-contrast= "auto">esire </span><span data-contrast="auto">are important too.  A willingness to feel vulnerable and trust the process.  I call willingness the combo code; it unlocks everything.  Open that desire to be guided.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Let’s talk Story</span><span data-contrast="auto">! S</span><span data-contrast="auto">hare an Intuition Story!   Bev takes a </span><span data-contrast= "auto">cruise;</span><span data-contrast="auto"> Nan moves to NM</span><span data-contrast="auto">;</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> and Lezli shadow</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">boxes with God.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="20" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">Good News – Intuition will always come back around.  </span><span data-contrast="auto">What is yours to be/know/have you can’t lose.  It will keep coming back around and may even become a 2x4 and smack you upside the head!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="auto">We mentioned Karen Drucker </span><a href="https://www.karendrucker.com/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">https://www.karendrucker.com/</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">, Marian</span><span data-contrast= "auto">n</span><span data-contrast="auto">e Williamson</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">(The Law of Circulation) </span><a href="https://marianne.com/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">https://marianne.com/</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">,  </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":360,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Something Good</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Nan</span></strong><span data-contrast= "auto">:  </span><span data-contrast="auto">I have been working on my website, </span><a href= "https://www.123spiritinme.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">https://www.123spiritinme.com/</span></a><span data-contrast="auto">, it is an oasis of calm and wonder.  A pit stop in the middle of your day to get refreshed and revitalized.  Take a good look at it and let me know if there’s something you’d like to see.  My email is on the website.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Bev</span></strong><span data-contrast= "auto">:  </span><span data-contrast="auto">I invite anyone that wants to come and visit the big Island virtually, join us at Centers for Spiritual Living East Hawaii, </span><a href="http://hawaiicsl.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">http://hawaiicsl.org/</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">.  We are a beautiful community.  Our church has no walls, so it is all open and all inviting.  Come on in.  We are on </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Youtube</span><span data-contrast="auto">.  I speak the 2</span><span data-contrast="auto">nd</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> weekend of every month.  I’d love to see you there.  If</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">you do stop in </span><span data-contrast= "auto">please </span><span data-contrast="auto">send a little message</span><span data-contrast="auto"> in the live stream chat!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Lezli</span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">: My something good is…I have a FREE online class coming up called "The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership.” This is an experiential class based on the book of the same name. If you are ready to show up with more integrity, as well as experience more success, this class is for you. This is a 4-week class, and it’s completely free but a Love Offering to New Vision</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">CSL is always welcome.  Class starts Tuesday, May 25 at 6:30 PM PST. To find out more, go to lezligoodwin.com/</span><span data-contrast= "auto">onlineclasses</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">If you’d like to support Sexy Spirituality Podcast, please consider joining us on </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Patreon</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> at  </span><a href= "https://www.patreon.com/SexySpirituality" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">https://www.patreon.com/SexySpirituality</span></a><span data-contrast="auto">. </span><span data-contrast="auto"> From bonus content to insider access, our patrons get all the sexiest stuff. Thanks to our Patrons are making this show possible.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">Thank you for joining us for Sexy Spirituality.  I'm your host, Lezli Goodwin, spiritual mentor, minister and author at lezligoodwin.com. Our guests have been </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Rev.</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">Beverley Strutt, </span><span data-contrast= "auto">a</span><span data-contrast= "auto">ssistant </span><span data-contrast= "auto">m</span><span data-contrast= "auto">inister</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> at</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">The Center for Spiritual Living </span><span data-contrast="auto">East Hawaii, and R</span><span data-contrast= "auto">ev. </span><span data-contrast="auto">Nan Bankston</span><span data-contrast= "auto">, </span><span data-contrast="auto">ancient lightworker and </span><span data-contrast= "auto">modern-day</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast= "auto">minister</span><span data-contrast="auto"> from CSL Grants Pass</span><span data-contrast= "auto">.</span><span data-contrast="auto">  Thanks for being with us!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">If you’d like to support Sexy Spirituality Podcast, please give a 5 start review on Apple Podcasts or the platform you prefer to listen on. It really does help! And please do check us out on </span><span data-contrast="auto">Patreon</span><span data-contrast="auto">.</span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">If you have any feedback about the show, we’d love to hear from you at </span><a href= "mailto:lezligoodwin@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">lezligoodwin@gmail.com</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">. You can find all of our show notes and podcast episodes at </span><a href="http://www.sexyspiritualityposdcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "auto">sexyspiritualitypodcast.com</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">. Be sure to click subscribe!  We’ll see you on </span><span data-contrast="auto">May 21</span><span data-contrast="auto">st</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">for our next episode</span><span data-contrast= "auto">.  </span><span data-contrast="auto">Thanks for joining us for Sexy Spirituality, Real Spirituality for the Modern World.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div>

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April 27, 2021

Healthy Boundaries Happy Lives

<div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Healthy Boundaries, Happy Lives</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Sexy Spirituality Episode #4</span></strong><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">1</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Host: </span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">Lezli Goodwin</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span></strong><span data-contrast= "none">Savanna Riker, Spiritual Coach, Author and Minister</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span></strong><span data-contrast="none">Sarah Forbes, Spiritual Guide and Transformational Coach</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Small Talk</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">Lezli, Savanna and Sarah talk: what’s bringing you Joy today?</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Healthy Boundaries, Happy Lives</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">We’ve brought together a round able of very powerful women today. Each of us are in different phases of life, in different places in our careers. And yet, today’s topic is powerfully present for each one of us.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Savanna, give us a nutshell description of how healthy boundaries became such an essential area of exploration for you: This is the biggest thing yet up for me.  It used to be a dirty word; I didn’t ever want to talk about boundaries because I didn’t have any.  I started digging deep into my past traumas of childhood and the ways in which I felt unsafe. So for many years of my life, I started to wonder why my relationships were so hard with so much dysfunction.   Brené Brown, I believe, said, “Boundaries without consequences are merely suggestions.”  I didn’t know what a boundary was.  I wasn’t modeled that growing up.  I didn’t understand how my experiences were informing my relationships going forward.  Once I started to grasp that boundaries are very important in my life, I said I have to dive in.  I have to really explore what this means and how it actually creates safety between us as human beings.  It has been a huge interest of mine for a while now.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli: </span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">A</span><span data-contrast="none">s humans </span><span data-contrast= "none">we </span><span data-contrast="none">reach a point where we look around and go wait I might not be doing this in the way that serves me best</span><span data-contrast= "none">. </span><span data-contrast="none">In m</span><span data-contrast="none">y first marriage I am not sure I really had any understanding of adult relationships at all</span><span data-contrast="none">.  T</span><span data-contrast="none">he list of things that I didn't do to take </span><span data-contrast="none">care of myself in that relationship </span><span data-contrast= "none">could</span><span data-contrast="none"> wallpaper a house</span><span data-contrast="none">!  W</span><span data-contrast="none">hat a joy it is to know that with every breath we get to look at it again and see how to do things differently </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Sarah</span><span data-contrast= "none">: </span><span data-contrast="none">I had my second baby a couple years ago</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">H</span><span data-contrast="none">e's two now</span><span data-contrast="none">.  A</span><span data-contrast="none">fter I had him I was diagnosed with postpartum depression</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">hile I was going through that I had a lot of responsibilities</span><span data-contrast= "none"> and </span><span data-contrast="none">a lot of expectations in my home life</span><span data-contrast= "none">,</span><span data-contrast="none"> with my husband and my family</span><span data-contrast= "none">, </span><span data-contrast="none">and I also had a lot of expectations in my career</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast="none">I had to learn how to set clear boundaries otherwise I couldn't heal</span><span data-contrast= "none"> and</span><span data-contrast="none"> I couldn't do what I needed to do to find my center again</span><span data-contrast="none">.  I</span><span data-contrast="none">t was really crucial for me to figure out a way to get clear about what the feelings going on in me meant and once I could get clear about that I could communicate what I needed and what I wanted and really set</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">boundaries</span><span data-contrast="none">.  This time </span><span data-contrast="none">period was one of the main reasons that I was able to come out of it so quickly</span><span data-contrast="none">.  P</span><span data-contrast="none">ostpartum depression can last a long time for people</span><span data-contrast= "none"> and</span><span data-contrast="none"> for me it was about six months and it's because I was working with a professional </span><span data-contrast= "none">and</span><span data-contrast="none"> was working in my life to really honor my feelings and communicate what was going on in me and letting people know I can't do that right now</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast="none">I really got clear about the language I used and how direct I was</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast="none">I've had to maintain that even two years later to make sure that I'm not going back to the other side where I just say yes to everything to helping everybody</span><span data-contrast= "none"> to</span><span data-contrast="none"> being the best mom</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">e have this idea especially being maternal and having maternal instincts and social conditioning around what it means to be a mom</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">e have to learn</span><span data-contrast="none">,</span><span data-contrast= "none"> as moms especially</span><span data-contrast= "none">,</span><span data-contrast="none"> how to care for ourselves because it's not something we're taught</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli: When I was a young mom I’m so glad Pinterest wasn’t a thing yet as I’m super crafty and it creates an expectation that everybody put up their brightest and shiniest and the expectation is that not only are your children going to be clean, fed, and loved, but they're also going to have sculptures for their snacks and handcrafted everything! As a mom/step mom of 5, I'm just glad nobody's been to jail they all still speak to each other!   I'll take it!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Savanna:  The thing that I have found so tricky about being able to set boundaries with people is that I didn't always have the self-esteem and self-respect to know the behaviors that were happening which were crossing my boundaries.  I wasn't really clear that I was feeling violated or betrayed, often because it was normalized behavior and how I grew up.  So in order to create boundaries I have to have enough self-esteem and self-respect to know when this is OK or that is not OK.  If you don't know what's not OK for you it makes it really challenging to not have [boundaries] violated often.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli: </span><span data-contrast= "none">W</span><span data-contrast="none">hat constitutes a boundary</span><span data-contrast= "none">?</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">T</span><span data-contrast="none">here are internal boundaries and external boundaries</span><span data-contrast="none">.  They are a</span><span data-contrast="none"> way of communicating either to yourself or to someone else that something needs to </span><span data-contrast= "none">change,</span><span data-contrast="none"> or something needs to stop right there</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Determining if something is OK or not OK or doesn’t feel good.  Feelings and emotions are the guide.  Some of us aren’t in touch with our feelings which makes it harder to know if boundaries are being crossed or need to be set.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">I</span><span data-contrast="none">f we don't have a clear </span><span data-contrast= "none">“</span><span data-contrast="none">if X then Y</span><span data-contrast="none">”</span><span data-contrast= "none"> and then actually honor</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">whatever that is</span><span data-contrast="none">, then we</span><span data-contrast="none"> as well say I think everything should be grape </span><span data-contrast= "none">j</span><span data-contrast= "none">elly</span><span data-contrast="none">, my</span><span data-contrast="none"> furniture should be grape </span><span data-contrast= "none">j</span><span data-contrast= "none">elly</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast= "none">I</span><span data-contrast="none">t's all just kind of an imaginary thing until there is a firm</span><span data-contrast= "none"> “</span><span data-contrast="none">I will step away</span><span data-contrast="none">”</span><span data-contrast= "none"> or </span><span data-contrast= "none">“</span><span data-contrast="none">we will need to take a break</span><span data-contrast="none">”</span><span data-contrast= "none"> or </span><span data-contrast= "none">“</span><span data-contrast="none">we'll have to have a conversation about other options</span><span data-contrast= "none">.” We</span><span data-contrast="none"> then have the responsibility </span><span data-contrast= "none">as </span><span data-contrast="none">the boundary former</span><span data-contrast= "none"> [creator]</span><span data-contrast="none"> to communicate the boundary and then also to honor and follow up on any </span><span data-contrast= "none">clear </span><span data-contrast="none">set outcomes</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">I stayed way too long in relationships with people that were abusive because I </span><span data-contrast= "none">I</span><span data-contrast="none"> didn't follow up</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast="none">I would set a boundary but then I would allow the behavior to continue and never actually implement what I said which means that you're basically teaching this other person how to treat you</span><span data-contrast="none">.  Y</span><span data-contrast="none">ou're teaching them that this is OK and therefore they keep doing it </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli:  So what do you say to the people who say, “I hate boundaries?”</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">A person</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">saying that </span><span data-contrast="none">may not have any and boundaries</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">[Boundaries]</span><span data-contrast="none"> show people how to love us</span><span data-contrast="none">.  S</span><span data-contrast="none">ome of the most compassionate people that I know are some of the most boundaried people that I know</span><span data-contrast="none">.  [They are]</span><span data-contrast="none"> just so clear on where they stand</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-contrast="none">I never have to question where they are and where they're at and how they feel about me or a relationship or</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">our friendship</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">W</span><span data-contrast="none">hen people think of boundaries they often equate it to conflict</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">hat gets missed in that is that </span><span data-contrast= "none">[setting] </span><span data-contrast="none">boundaries is actually a way to prevent long term conflicts</span><span data-contrast="none">.  It</span><span data-contrast="none">'s a way to keep you in a relationship that's healthy so that all these unnecessary conflicts don't keep coming up</span><span data-contrast="none">.  So </span><span data-contrast="none">short term you might have to endure a little bit of conflict but </span><span data-contrast= "none">in </span><span data-contrast="none">the long term when you get good at setting boundaries</span><span data-contrast= "none">, you </span><span data-contrast="none">avoid a lot of conflict</span><span data-contrast="none">.  Conflict </span><span data-contrast="none">naturally fizzles out when you learn how to set the boundaries that you need to keep you healthy and</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">take care of yourself</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli, Kicking the Coke Machine Analogy: </span><span data-contrast="none"> This can</span><span data-contrast="none"> be what it's like to train people to recognize I'm serious I'm holding this boundary</span><span data-contrast="none">.  They may </span><span data-contrast="none">push it</span><span data-contrast="none"> [the boundary; put a dollar in]</span><span data-contrast="none"> a couple times to see if they can get you to follow the old pattern </span><span data-contrast="none">[spit out a coke] But </span><span data-contrast="none">they might</span><span data-contrast="none"> kick the Coke machine and</span><span data-contrast= "none"> [eventually] </span><span data-contrast= "none">they learn this dollar is not going to get me a Coke and they stop putting in money </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">I would just</span><span data-contrast= "none"> self-abandon</span><span data-contrast="none"> my own needs and my own value for someone </span><span data-contrast= "none">else’s</span><span data-contrast="none"> desires instead of standing in my own truth and setting my own boundary</span><span data-contrast="none">.  In turn, </span><span data-contrast="none">I was dishonoring myself and continuing a cycle of toxic</span><span data-contrast= "none">,</span><span data-contrast="none"> addictive, abusive</span><span data-contrast= "none"> [relationships].  F</span><span data-contrast= "none">or me it was all of those things which really didn't call people higher or to the plate</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  Then </span><span data-contrast="none">the challenge</span><span data-contrast= "none"> [becomes] </span><span data-contrast="none">well then you lose those people</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">hat do we do with that</span><span data-contrast="none">?</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">If </span><span data-contrast= "none">we don't have that </span><span data-contrast= "none">self-worth</span><span data-contrast= "none"> piece</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">it's so hard to let go of the other person because </span><span data-contrast= "none">we</span><span data-contrast="none"> think they're providing our worth</span><span data-contrast= "none">, </span><span data-contrast="none">they are completing us</span><span data-contrast= "none">, </span><span data-contrast="none">there's that codependency piece</span><span data-contrast="none">.  D</span><span data-contrast="none">eveloping this </span><span data-contrast= "none">self-worth</span><span data-contrast="none"> and working on learning to love yourself and care for yourself is so essential in this practice of setting boundaries </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli:  E</span><span data-contrast="none">ven thinking I'm worth spending the time in my own consciousness and in my own awareness to recognize </span><span data-contrast= "none">what </span><span data-contrast="none">boundaries should be for me</span><span data-contrast="none">.  It </span><span data-contrast="none">is an interesting process for me to recognize I don't have to be the cool girl I don't have </span><span data-contrast="none">to be the girl</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">who's down for everything and I don't have to be the easy one in the room</span><span data-contrast="none">,</span><span data-contrast= "none"> meaning the one that never cares what restaurant we go to</span><span data-contrast="none">, or </span><span data-contrast="none">what time we're meeting up</span><span data-contrast="none">.  N</span><span data-contrast="none">ot just in romantic relationships but I think I was really guilty of that in my girlfriend relationship</span><span data-contrast= "none">s.</span><span data-contrast="none"> I just want to be included</span><span data-contrast="none">.  I</span><span data-contrast="none">t didn't even occur to me that I was worth having an opinion</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast= "none">Sarah:  </span><span data-contrast="none">I think</span><span data-contrast="none">,</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast="none">as women especially</span><span data-contrast= "none">,</span><span data-contrast="none"> we are anger phobic</span><span data-contrast="none">.  W</span><span data-contrast="none">e are taught that anger is </span><span data-contrast= "none">[bad]</span><span data-contrast="none"> and we’re not the cool girl</span><span data-contrast="none">, or </span><span data-contrast="none">we’re the one that's losing it</span><span data-contrast="none">.  S</span><span data-contrast="none">o we are taught to be scared of our own anger and to shame our anger</span><span data-contrast= "none">.  O</span><span data-contrast="none">ur anger is the clearest signal that a boundary has been crossed so one of the things that we really have to</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">do</span><span data-contrast= "none">, </span><span data-contrast="none">especially as women</span><span data-contrast="none">,</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">is</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">be </span><span data-contrast="none">comfortable with our anger</span><span data-contrast="none">, be</span><span data-contrast="none"> OK with it and that can be a process for a lot of people</span><span data-contrast= "none">.</span><span data-contrast= "none">  </span><span data-contrast="none">I'm still working on it how to be OK </span><span data-contrast= "none">when</span><span data-contrast="none"> I'm angry</span><span data-contrast="none">.  I</span><span data-contrast="none">t's a natural human emotion</span><span data-contrast="none">.  I</span><span data-contrast="none">t's a signal</span><span data-contrast="none">.  I</span><span data-contrast="none">t's telling me something and it's wise and I need to hear it and honor it and listen to it </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Savanna:  When I first started setting boundaries, I was so in my anger about it because they had been violated for so long that there was like this self-righteousness.  I had to set a very firm boundary and it has to stick.  So, I would go overboard to the point where people felt so pushed out that they thought I was crazy.  It's a process of using our anger in a way to not only explore the anger deeply, but to channel it in a way that we're setting a boundary not from just a place of anger [seeking balance].</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="2" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">In this Episode, w</span><span data-contrast="none">e mentioned </span><span data-contrast="none">Brené Brown </span><a href="https://brenebrown.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">https://brenebrown.com/</span></a><span data-contrast= "none">,</span><span data-contrast= "none"> </span><span data-contrast= "none">Thich </span><span data-contrast= "none">Nhat</span><span data-contrast= "none"> Hahn </span><a href= "https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/</span></a><span data-contrast="none"> </span><span data-contrast="none"> </span><span data-ccp-props="{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="none">….</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Something Good</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Savanna: </span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">I’m always having a class coming up and you can find out more information about what I'm offering,  what lectures might be coming up,  on </span><a href= "http://www.savannanoelle.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">http://www.savannanoelle.com/</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto">  You can also find me of course on social media, @savinoelle is my Instagram handle and of course Facebook also has all of this information. </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Sarah</span></strong><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">:</span></strong><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast= "auto">I’m </span><span data-contrast="auto">working on a class right now about trauma informed care and</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">how to implement trauma informed care into spiritual guidanc</span><span data-contrast="auto">e and</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast= "auto">practice</span><span data-contrast="auto">.  I’ll be </span><span data-contrast="auto">teaching the class either in summer</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> or</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> fall</span><span data-contrast="auto">.  I</span><span data-contrast="auto">f you want more information about the class you can go to my </span><span data-contrast= "auto">website: </span><a href= "http://www.theinspiredmindhealing.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">http://www.theinspiredmindhealing.com/</span></a><span data-contrast="auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props="{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Lezli: </span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">I have a class coming up called Podcasting 101. Podcasting can be a fun, creative way to embrace the idea of a church without walls, connecting with people all over the world. It can seem overwhelming, but there are simple, inexpensive ways to make your podcasting dreams a reality. In just a few weeks, you could be ready to launch your first podcast and get your message to the people who really want it. Cost for this 4-week class is $89.00. Class starts Thursday, May 6 at 6:00 PM MST. 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April 10, 2021

Exploring Spirituality through Songwriting

<div style="font-weight: 400;"> <div> <p><span data-contrast="none">4.9.21 Sexy Spirituality Show Notes</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":2,"335551620":2,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="none">“Exploring Spirituality through Songwriting”</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":2,"335551620":2,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="none">Recorded 2.9.21. 10:00 AM MST</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":2,"335551620":2,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Exploring Spirituality through Songwriting</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Sexy Spirituality Episode #40</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Host: </span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">Lezli Goodwin</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span></strong><span data-contrast= "none">Denise Rosier, Contemporary New Thought artist, and award-winning singer/songwriter</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Guest: </span></strong><span data-contrast= "none">Heather O’Day, Musical Director of Sonoran Desert Center for Spiritual Living in Amado, Arizona</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="auto"> </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Small Talk</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="auto">Lezli, Heather and Denise talk birthdays!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Exploring Spirituality through Songriting</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="31" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Okay, we’ve got singer/songwriter madness going on here today</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="31" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">I wanted to have Denise and Heather on today, as they are both wonderful songwriters, performers and spiritual leaders. I came to know each through the Empower Music and Arts organization, the group that gives the Posi Awards for positive music. Https://empowerma.com</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="31" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Denise, give us the nutshell version of how you landed in positive music: Starting out as an inspirational Christian artist, as my spirituality changed my music changed. During a performance break, someone suggested that a spiritual center community would appreciate my music. I didn’t know the songs, so I had to write to find songs that would work.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="31" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="4" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Heather: A director at Tuscon New Thought was looking for musicians to sit in for Sunday Celebration Services. My path was taking me there, but I didn’t have a community or a name for it. Before I knew it, there was an entire community at home, in my back yard, and led to a Music Director position. There was no hymnal! So, I was guided to some new thought musicians, and I did a retreat with Karen Drucker, who said, “This genre needs new voices. This genre needs your voice. Why not start now”</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":true,"134233118":true,"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":240}">  </span></p> </div> <div> <ul> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="5" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Lezli: I came to all of this exactly background. I grew up doing performing arts, and then I took a 16-year break & developed stage fright. During practitioner training, I was assigned, “Go do the scariest thing you can think of.” The scariest thing I could think of was to go back into vocal training. Dawn Kerlin made herself available to do some vocal training, which turned into song writing, which turned into recording albums.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="6" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">The more you write, the better it gets. You have to get the muck out.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="7" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Tom Kimmel once gave me the homework to go home and write a hundred terrible songs! It takes the pressure off.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="8" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Densie: a Christian label pushed me to write, as they wanted every singer to write their own songs, and I loved it. Sometimes I have to just be with a song until a word lands, just let them move around in my mind and then BAM, there it is.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="9" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">It’s amazing how people have such deep meaning and feelings about songs, and I remember, “I was microwaving spare ribs when I thought of that line.” The funniest things stand out.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="10" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Writing songs (and messages for Sunday) come from what we’re working on in our own lives. It’s true in inspirational music as much as any other kind of music.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="11" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Denise: I was very clear that I was going to write the songs I wanted to write and produce them the way I produce them. I didn’t care of anyone else liked them. Luckily, people did respond to them.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="12" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">When it comes to inspirational music, I am simply just reaching out to Spirit and having a conversation with God. We’re kind of like the greeting card writers for people who maybe don’t know quite how to say what they are feeling. We create a space for people to be with God in that moment.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="13" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">“To sing is to pray twice.”  St. Augustine (sorry for the misattribution)</span><span data-ccp-props="{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="14" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">What is the greatest lesson from being a spiritual song writing for non-writers:</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="15" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">Heather: That everything is an act of creativity, that there is only One Mind and One Heart. It’s all coming from a personal place. </span><span data-ccp-props= "{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> <li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="32" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="16" data-aria-level="1"> <span data-contrast="none">We mentioned Daniel Nahmod http://www.danielnahmod.com/, Karen Drucker https://www.karendrucker.com/, Tom Kimmel https://tomkimmel.com/, Harold Payne </span><a href="https://haroldpaynemusic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">https://haroldpaynemusic.com/</span></a><span data-contrast= "none">, Lezli & Dawn  </span><a href= "https://www.reverbnation.com/lezlidawn" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">https://www.reverbnation.com/lezlidawn</span></a><span data-contrast="auto">.</span><span data-ccp-props="{"134233279":true,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":720,"335559737":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259,"335559991":360}"> </span></li> </ul> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-contrast="none">….</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast="auto">Something Good</span></strong><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Heather: </span></strong><span data-contrast="auto">I am the host of Wednesday Night Live, which is a New Thought music driven video podcast Facebook.com/</span><span data-contrast= "auto">CSLSonoranDesert</span><span data-contrast="auto">. Plus, new music called “The Journey” at  </span><a href= "http://www.heatheroday.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span data-contrast= "none">www.heatheroday.com</span></a><span data-contrast= "auto"> for info.</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Denise:</span></strong><span data-contrast="auto"> In addition to my music, one of the things I did during COVID was work on some ministry resources. Go to deniserosier.com for info for ministers and music directors, free chords for congregational songs. I’m developing workshops for pulpit ministers and music directors to build a stronger connection for creating a bigger and more robust music ministry. And I’m starting a new album this year!</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><strong><span data-contrast= "auto">Lezli: </span></strong><span data-contrast="none">My something good is…I have a class coming up called Podcasting 101. Podcasting can be a fun, creative way to embrace the idea of a church without walls, connecting with people all over the world. It can seem overwhelming, but there are simple, inexpensive ways to make your podcasting dreams a reality. In just a few weeks, you could be ready to launch your first podcast and get your message to the people who really want it. Cost for this 4-week class is $89.00. Class starts Thursday, May 6 at 6:00 PM MST. To find out more, go to lezligoodwin.com/</span><span data-contrast= "none">onlineclasses</span><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p><span data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":1080,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}">  </span></p> </div> </div> <div style="font-weight: 400;"> <p><span data-contrast="auto">If you’d like to support Sexy Spirituality Podcast, please consider joining us on </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Patreon</span><span data-contrast= "auto"> </span><span data-contrast="auto">at  patreon.com</span><span data-contrast= "auto">/</span><span data-contrast= "auto">sexyspirituality</span><span data-contrast="auto">. From early access to episodes to patron-only content, our </span><span data-contrast= "auto">Patreon</span><span data-contrast="auto"> community gets the very sexiest stuff from us! 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