Tangled is a show about how we can take ideas from nature to build better human systems. Interviews with architects, engineers, farmers, designers and entrepreneurs.

Tangled
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Tangled is a show about how we can take ideas from nature to build better human systems. Interviews with architects, engineers, farmers, designers and entrepreneurs.
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April 22, 2020
13: Zach Weiss – Restoring a Healthy Water Cycle
<p>In this interview, I speak to Zach Weiss, who runs a business called <a href="https://www.elementalecosystems.com/">Elemental Ecosystems</a>. I met Zach a few weeks ago when I took his workshop, where he taught some of his methods for understanding and managing water in the landscape.</p> <p>Zach works under the assumption that the core reason for many environmental problems is a misunderstanding and poor management of water. By building dams, repairing eroded stream banks and many other tactics, Zach helps people improve their land’s ability to catch and hold water. This has flow-on effects for local climate, drought resilience and financial stability.</p> <h4>Show Notes</h4> <p>01:05 Zach describes his work<br>02:01 Outline of the water cycle<br>04:31 <a href="http://www.holzerpermaculture.us/about.html">Sepp Holzer</a><br>09:20 Zach's opinion of Holistic Management<br>10:32 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brown_Jr.">Tom Brown Jr.</a> and <a href="https://wildernessawareness.org/adult-programs/jon-young-advanced-bird-language">Jon Young</a>: wilderness skills, bird language <br>10:59 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringing_Cedars%27_Anastasianism">Ringing Cedars</a> <br>11:57 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_Singh">Rajindra Singh</a>, the waterman of India <br>12:53 Universal principles vs. specific tactics<br>13:25 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao">The Tao</a> <br>14:23 Describing a typical re-hydration project<br>16:26 Why pond liners are not ideal<br>18:27 Building water bodies that fit in with the existing geology and hydrology, as opposed to digging dams in inappropriate spots. "Tying a water body to the natural veins of the Earth."<br>20:48 Zach's thoughts on some aspects of permaculture<br>22:57 Getting your hands dirty. Build models using the soil on your property.<br>24:35 What to do in the suburbs?… Observe your property, create a rain garden, infiltrate the maximum amount of water.<br>26:21 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCgelkultur">Hügelkultur</a> <br>27:40 Zach's problem with swales<br>30:14 The process of tapping springs, and why to drink spring water<br>32:35 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_drain">French drains</a> <br>33:42 Evidence of revegetation changing climate and increasing rainfall<br>34:44 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Smits">Willie Smits</a>, and his <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/willie_smits_how_to_restore_a_rainforest">TED Talk</a> <br>35:14 Convincing people that water is more important than atmospheric CO2 for climate<br>36:57 Zach's experience in Australia: a perfect example of the watershed death spiral<br>39:45 Zach's film, <a href="https://www.elementalchange.world/">Elemental Change</a> <br>42:00 <a href="https://www.vivenciadehesa.es/?lang=en">Vicencia Dehasa</a>, Spain <br>42:14 <a href="https://www.tamera.org/">Tamera</a>, Portugal <br>42:36 Peter Marshall and <a href="http://www.terrapretatruffles.com/">Terra Preta Truffles</a> near Braidwood <br>42:54 <a href="https://www.healthysoils.com.au/">Walter Jehne</a> <br>43:22 <a href="http://tarunbharatsangh.in/our-mission/">Tarun Bharat Sangh</a>, Indian NGO </p>

February 6, 2020
12: Darren Doherty – Living With Fire & Regenerating Landscapes
<p><strong>On this episode I speak to Darren Doherty. Darren is one of the world’s most well-respected farm planners. He has developed a design system called the </strong><a href="http://www.regrarians.org/about/the-regrarians-platform/"><u><strong>Regrarians Platform</strong></u></a><strong>, which incorporates ideas and from existing frameworks with Darren’s own innovations. The platform was greatly influenced by people such as PA Yeomans, whose scale of permanence forms the basis of Darren’s framework. Darren’s approach also draws on Allan Savory’s work in holistic management and Bill Mollison and David Holmgren’s insights from permaculture.</strong></p> <p><strong>Darren has worked around the world in many different kinds of climates and also has extensive experience regenerating landscapes in Australia.</strong></p> <p><strong>Darren and his family have also produced an award-winning film called Polyfaces, which profiles Joel Salatin and his family on their innovative farm in Virginia. You can stream it at </strong><a href="http://www.polyfaces.com/"><u><strong>polyfaces.com</strong></u></a><strong>.</strong></p> <p><strong>I wanted to talk to Darren about his own history, and also get his thoughts on the bushfires in Australia, and how we can try to mitigate them in the future.</strong></p> <p><strong>We don’t spend a lot of time specifically discussing the Regrarians Platform itself, so I encourage you to look up Darren’s lectures on YouTube, or go to </strong><a href="http://www.regrarians.org/"><u><strong>regrarians.org</strong></u></a><strong> to learn more about it.</strong></p> <p><strong>At some points, we do get a little bit into the weeds, but even if you’re not familiar with land management or farming, I think you’ll still find Darren’s insights on those topics interesting.</strong></p>

January 26, 2020
11: Michael Mobbs – Saving The Rain
<p>The ongoing bushfires in south-eastern Australia are a horrible reminder that we need to change the way we’re operating. But I don’t think it’s a simple as trying to reduce carbon emissions. So over the next few weeks, I’m going to talk to some people who have ideas about more tangible and effective ways of managing landscapes, including urban areas, farms and bushland. If we don’t re-instate a functioning water cycle, then things are going to get worse, no matter how much CO2 is in the air.</p> <p>This interview is with Michael Mobbs. Michael is a former environmental lawyer from Sydney who has become known as the “off-grid guy”. Because, in 1996, he began the process of disconnecting his inner-city home in Sydney from mains water, sewage and electricity.</p> <p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p> <p>01:59 How cities change the water cycle</p> <p>02:47 Michael’s house</p> <p>03:49 Michael’s role in the 1993-4 parliamentary inquiry into Sydney’s water</p> <p>04:43 what does “you can’t do that” actually mean?</p> <p>06:16 A model of the house is in the Powerhouse Museum’s EcoLogic exhibition: <a href="https://maas.museum/event/ecologic/">https://maas.museum/event/ecologic/</a></p> <p>06:59 “It’s as though this culture has never landed here”</p> <p>07:43 the problem with the education system; growing up on a farm</p> <p>08:29 The Sydney Botanic gardens wastes millions of rainwater every year</p> <p>09:46 Gutters are the main cause of house fires. Why don’t we use a different design? An example of the gutters Michael describes: <a href="https://www.eaveswatersystem.com/">https://www.eaveswatersystem.com/</a></p> <p>12:15 Bureaucracies never change</p> <p>12:15 “If you wanted to set up a society, a culture, that’s doomed to fail, this is the one you would set up.”</p> <p>13:49 People shouldn’t rely on governments. Do what you can, including catching and using as much rainwater as possible.</p> <p>14:10 Leaky drains: Michael’s street saves 4 million L of water each year from going to the ocean. Here is a great video he made that shows you how to do it: <a href="https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/community-gardens">https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/community-gardens</a></p> <p>16:51 A road garden in Bondi</p> <p>17:57 Food waste and wasted water</p> <p>18:57 Buy from farmers’ markets</p> <p>19:25 Michael’s new project to design a pre-fabricated studio house with attached water treatment and solar electricity systems: contact Michael to learn more <a href="https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/contact">https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/contact</a></p> <p>21:13 How the house is resistant to bushfires </p> <p>21:52 Using recycled timber, eg from “weed” species like camphor laurel</p> <p>23:01 Michael’s recent travels through many areas in rural Australia</p> <p>24:30 Do an experiment to catch for one day all the water that you would have normally let drain down the kitchen sink: it will be a lot</p> <p>25:28 Drinking rainwater: it’s healthy and doesn’t have chlorine, which may be carcinogenic</p> <p>27:05 In Australia, water utility companies are government-owned, so there is no competition. And the government does not fund research into the effects of chlorine on, for eg, gut health</p> <p>27:53 Michael’s two books, Sustainable House and Sustainable Food: <a href="https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/products">https://www.sustainablehouse.com.au/products</a></p> <p>29:17 Archimedes, Newtown, Einstein: they came upon their insights through their interactions with the world around them</p> <p>29:40 “The best university, the best reading, is where we walk and talk and see in our own environment, wherever that may be, each day.”</p> <p><br></p>
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