That Mom
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<p><b>ThatMom is for the working mom caught between ambition and motherhood</b> — the one who's capable enough to do it all, and tired of being expected to.</p><p>Each week, host Maria (MBA, JD) sits down with psychologists, therapists, coaches, and fellow high-achieving moms to unpack a simple truth: being capable of everything doesn't mean you should carry everything. Using <b>The Capacity Method</b> — audit what's working, reclaim what isn't, reinvest in what matters — ThatMom gives you permission, clarity, and real tools to stop optimizing for "effortless" and start building a life that actually fits.</p><p>If you're ready to stop doing it all and start choosing what matters, you're in the right place.</p><p></p>
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August 10, 2026
Confidence Is a Fit: The Real Psychology of Personal Style (ft. Amanda Vargus, Pt. 1)
<p>Ever feel like your closet is full but you have nothing to wear? In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, I sit down with Amanda Vargus — luxury sales pro turned personal stylist and founder of Wave and Woven — to unpack what's really going on.</p><p></p><p>Amanda made the leap from a corporate sales career at iHeartRadio and Pandora into styling during the pandemic, all while navigating a divorce and raising a young son. Now she helps women, especially moms, rebuild their style from the inside out.</p><p></p><p>We break down the three things every wardrobe needs to work — aesthetic, lifestyle, and body type — plus Amanda's honest take on why confidence isn't something a stylist can promise, how to actually explore your personal style without falling down a Pinterest rabbit hole, why she has clients try (not buy) with rental services, and her real talk on jeans and bathing suits.</p><p></p><p><b>What We Cover:</b></p><ul><li>Amanda's career pivot from luxury sales to personal styling, and the pandemic "shit moment" that sparked it</li><li>Why confidence isn't the goal a stylist promises, but the byproduct</li><li>The three pillars of a working wardrobe: aesthetic, lifestyle, and body type</li><li>How to find your personal style without over-shopping or falling into the Pinterest rabbit hole</li><li>Why renting is a smart, low-risk way to test new styles and trends</li><li>Body type basics: working with your proportions instead of fighting them</li><li>Amanda's real talk on jeans (yes, you may need to try on 20 pairs) and bathing suits<p></p></li></ul><p><b>About the Guest:</b></p><p>Amanda Vargus is the CEO and founder of Wave and Woven, a personal styling company based in Boston. Before styling, she built a career in luxury sales and advertising, working for iHeartRadio and Pandora. She's been featured in USA Today and Glam Weekly, and specializes in transformational styling for women navigating changing bodies, careers, and life stages.</p><p></p><p><b>Links + Resources:</b></p><ul><li>Follow <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/waveandwoven/" target="_blank">Wave & Woven</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://waveandwoven.com/" target="_blank">Learn more</a> about Amanda and her Process</li><li>Maria feels confident with monthly outfits from Rent the Runway. <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program" target="_blank"><b>Try it here with 50% off </b></a>(referral link from which I may receive a benefit)</li><li>Follow ThatMom: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></li><li>Join the ThatMom Community: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom" target="_blank"><b>EMAIL</b></a></li></ul><p></p><p>If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long.</p><p></p><p>And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.</p>
August 5, 2026
Same Mess, Different Standard: The Truth About the Mental Load (ft. Dr. Anne Welsh, Pt. 2)
<p>There was a half day at school and I didn't realize it. The office called, my son was waiting, and my husband joked later: "How could you forget the half day?" It got me thinking — why does it always land on mom to remember, even when both parents are home? Psychologist and executive coach Dr. Anne Welsh returns to unpack the data behind that gap: why women are held to a stricter standard than men, both at work and at home, and why the mental load defaults to us so often it barely registers as a choice.</p><p></p><p>We get into the research — women promoted for proven performance while men get promoted on potential, the "mom gets the call" pattern even when dad's the listed emergency contact, and the same messy room rated dirtier when it's labeled a woman's. Anne explains why closing that gap isn't about lowering your standards, and how redefining what "good enough" looks like can protect your time and health.</p><p></p><p>She also breaks down Fair Play, the system she's certified to teach, which makes invisible labor visible enough to divide fairly. We close with her own scripts for bringing this up with a partner — without anger, without a list of grievances, and without a fight.</p><p></p><p><b>What We Cover:</b></p><ul><li>Why women are punished more than men for the same mistakes</li><li>The workplace promotion gap: men on potential, women on proven performance</li><li>Why "mom gets the call" even when dad's the listed emergency contact</li><li>The Tim's-room-vs-Amy's-room study on gendered double standards</li><li>Fair Play's two premises: invisible labor is real, and everyone's time is valuable</li><li>The four-hours-a-week leisure gap between moms and their partners</li><li>Scripts for dividing labor without triggering defensiveness</li></ul><p></p><p><b>About the Guest:</b></p><p>Dr. Anne Welsh is a licensed clinical psychologist and certified executive coach based in Cambridge, MA. Previously at Harvard University, she now runs her own practice supporting ambitious women navigating career and motherhood at the same time. She is a Certified Fair Play Facilitator through the Fair Play Institute, with additional certifications in perinatal mental health and parental leave coaching. Her book, <i>Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in Your Career and at Home</i>, is out August 2026.</p><p></p><p><b>Links + Resources:</b></p><ul><li>Dr. Anne Welsh's Book: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0itUtTPH" target="_blank"><b><i>Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in your Career and at Home</i></b></a></li><li>Learn More or work with Dr. Anne Welsh: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.drannewelsh.com/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.drannewelsh.com/</b></a></li><li>Follow ThatMom: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></li><li>Join the ThatMom Community: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom" target="_blank"><b>EMAIL</b></a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Maria's Style Pick:</b></p><p>One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying.</p><p>This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway.</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program" target="_blank"><b>Try it here with 50% off</b></a></p><p></p><p>If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long.</p><p></p><p>And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.</p>
August 3, 2026
The Ambition Paradox: Why Moms Can't Win Either Way (ft. Dr. Anne Welsh)
<p>In Part 1 of my conversation with clinical psychologist and motherhood researcher Dr. Ann Welsh, we dig into what she calls the ambition paradox: the impossible bind where showing up fully at work gets you criticized as a mother, and showing up fully as a mother means you're not "performing" at work. Ann shares her own journey from a high-achievement household, through leaving a dream job at Harvard, to grappling with how much of her self-worth was tied to titles and accomplishments.</p><p></p><p>We talk about why achievement-oriented moms in particular struggle with the unpredictability of motherhood, why society sets an unachievable standard for both "good mother" and "good employee," and Ann's practical "closet clean-out" exercise for sorting through which expectations are actually yours to keep.</p><p></p><p><b>What We Cover:</b></p><ul><li>Ann's path from clinical psychology researcher to motherhood coach, and why her own research didn't prepare her for becoming a mom</li><li>Why achievement-oriented women in particular struggle with the unsolvable problems of parenting</li><li>Ann's story leaving her dream job at Harvard, and the identity crisis that followed</li><li>The ambition paradox: why you can't be the "perfect mother" and the "perfect employee" at the same time</li><li>The impossible-test analogy: why failing an unpassable test isn't a personal failure</li><li>Grief and identity loss that comes with letting go of "doing it all"</li><li>The "closet clean-out" exercise for sorting which expectations to keep, and which to release</li><li>A preview of Part 2: the fair play framework for dividing invisible labor at home<p></p></li></ul><p><b>About the Guest:</b></p><p>Dr. Ann Welsh is a clinical psychologist, motherhood researcher, and executive coach. She holds a doctorate in clinical psychology, is certified in perinatal mental health, and runs a clinical practice focused on perinatal mental health alongside an executive coaching practice for working mothers. She also consults with companies on supporting parents in the workplace. Her book, <i>Ambitious Mother</i>, is out this August.</p><p></p><p><b>Links + Resources:</b></p><p></p><ul><li>Dr. Anne Welsh's Book: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0itUtTPH" target="_blank"><i>Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in your Career and at Home</i></a></li><li>Learn More or work with Dr. Anne Welsh: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.drannewelsh.com/" target="_blank">https://www.drannewelsh.com/</a></li><li>Follow ThatMom: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/thatmomco/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></li><li>Join the ThatMom Community: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thatmom.kit.com/intentionalmom" target="_blank"><b>EMAIL</b></a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Maria's Style Pick:</b></p><p>One thing helping me simplify life as a working mom? Renting instead of buying.</p><p>This episode's outfit is from Rent the Runway.</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.renttherunway.com/shares/348658e8c64b418606e46da3bad0d763a38ededa-payPerSwap-publicLink-1780441571100?utm_source=web&utm_medium=referral_share&utm_campaign=rtr_referral_program" target="_blank"><b>Try it here with 50% off</b></a></p><p></p><p>If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who has been carrying too much for too long.</p><p></p><p>And if you're enjoying these conversations, follow That Mom for more thoughtful discussions about motherhood, identity, ambition, happiness, emotional well-being, and building a life that feels aligned with what matters most.</p><h1></h1>
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<p><b>ThatMom is for the working mom caught between ambition and motherhood</b> — the one who's capable enough to do it all, and tired of being expected to.</p><p>Each week, host Maria (MBA, JD) sits down with psychologists, therapists, coaches, and fellow high-achieving moms to unpack a simple truth: being capable of everything doesn't mean you should carry everything. Using <b>The Capacity Method</b> — audit what's working, reclaim what isn't, reinvest in what matters — ThatMom gives you permission, clarity, and real tools to stop optimizing for "effortless" and start building a life that actually fits.</p><p>If you're ready to stop doing it all and start choosing what matters, you're in the right place.</p><p></p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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