Julius Caesar. Joan of Arc. Liberace. These people are dead. But if they were alive, they’d be listening to this show. Hosts Jared Tetreau and Abe Merker take you deep into the bowels of the archive to explore the dank crevices and back alleys of the past, reclaiming history for the curious-minded girls, gays, and theys. This is THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! <hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

That's History, Babe!
Claim This Podcastby Jared Tetreau & Abe Merker
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Julius Caesar. Joan of Arc. Liberace. These people are dead. But if they were alive, they’d be listening to this show. Hosts Jared Tetreau and Abe Merker take you deep into the bowels of the archive to explore the dank crevices and back alleys of the past, reclaiming history for the curious-minded girls, gays, and theys. This is THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! <hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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July 31, 2026
How Gay Was Ancient Greece?
<p>This week, we take it back a few millennia to the time of Ancient Greece, exploring the super gay myths and legends used to explain and sanctify the sexual behaviors of the Greeks themselves. But how did Greek myths define sexuality? How different were Greek ideas of sexual identity from our own? What do we get wrong when we project our contemporary labels onto people in antiquity? And can a couple of buddies get oiled up and wrestle naked and still be just friends?? Tangents include CATS: The Jellicle Ball, why Leos are obsessed with their birthdays, and the possibility of moving Busch Gardens Williamsburg to Williamsburg, Brooklyn.</p><p>SOURCES</p><ul><li><a href=" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYZCpJmHAqI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYZCpJmHAqI</a></li><li>Clarke, W. M. (1978). Achilles and Patroclus in Love. Hermes, 106(3), 381–396. <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/4476069" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.jstor.org/stable/4476069</a></li><li>“Friday essay: the myth of the ancient Greek ‘gay utopia’” by Alastair Blanshard, The Conversation, December 14, 2017</li><li>Halperin, D. M. (1986). One Hundred Years of Homosexuality [Review of Die Griechische Knabenliebe, by H. Patzer]. Diacritics, 16(2), 34–45. <a href="https://doi.org/10.2307/465069 " rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://doi.org/10.2307/465069 </a></li><li>A Problem in Greek Ethics” by John Addington Symonds</li><li>Lovers’ Legends: Gay Greek Myths by Andrew Calimach</li></ul><p>THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! is hosted by Abe Merker and Jared Tetreau. This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone. Research Assistance by Madison Albertson. Music by Kinneret. Series Artwork by Sid Lugo. Intro Animations by Gemma Hill.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

July 23, 2026
When an Army of Peasants Nearly Overthrew England!
<p>Could you and 60,000 of your closest friends beat your landlord in open warfare? If you’re an English peasant in the summer of 1381, then the answer is yes. This week, we explore one of the most seismic uprisings in the history of Medieval Europe, the Peasants’ Revolt! Learn how a ragtag group of farmers sacked London, killed a bunch of important people, and provided revolutionary inspiration for centuries to come. Tangents include the planetary status of Pluto, hot historian Dan Jones, Jared losing it all at poker, Abe’s new apartment (!!!), and Claudia’s long awaited return.</p><p>SOURCES</p><ul><li><a href="https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/anon1381.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Anonimalle Chronicle </a><a href="https://www.historytoday.com/archive/feature/peasants-revolt-1381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“The Peasants Revolt” by Dan Jones, History Today, 2009 </a></li><li>“Joint Action against ‘Bad’ Lordship: The Peasants’ Revolt in Essex and Norfolk” by Herbert Eiden, </li><li><a href="https://research-ebsco-com.i.ezproxy.nypl.org/c/gts7o7/viewer/pdf/je7i3o4pav" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Historical Association, 1998 </a><a href="https://ia801406.us.archive.org/14/items/chroniclesoffroi00froiuoft/chroniclesoffroi00froiuoft.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Chronicles of Froissart by Jean Froissart, 1373-1410 </a></li><li><a href="https://muse-jhu-edu.i.ezproxy.nypl.org/article/698331" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“John Gower, Squire of Kent, the Peasants’ Revolt, and the Visio Anglie” by Michael Bennett, The Chaucer Review, 2018</a> </li><li><a href="https://watermark02.silverchair.com/rep_2015_131_1_22.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAA3UwggNxBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggNiMIIDXgIBADCCA1cGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQMjApz52CwmU7zZxtnAgEQgIIDKOdZ3xxN7P09DVkw4A7QzOXYytoYBZdmmnVNEeZl1vJwfB9zQiRQYXmfVoCT54DqRMWh009_txHrro4QJseEZhIWw10Io4FBZz7WwOuKODL5k8b4FOgCIaI6G-brUmhNlYIYXixJH-i8ciU94XhjWbRETlGd1IxXkQVpsn6kLUZvDvDHyC1gMyGAnjIpoqbvMiw8T9_o9RrjoeiNop-f5JNmFCwTKmaXa_ChRSWLEGRmV79fB_1eg0KQ62q2YzyUi1iFqkPdnZq7UHYajSXBSTTEnifQ3VGqW7Wyn0GPTx9FirwFI2dfG9TLDDP0pjqYLnnGGKmIDven4PQOQXA96HGnj6sNN7LqN3YUS47QdhaztLV6NqBFEXVQ6HeoMHZEZHr2Vpf6o0aNcHBJHWo5GfrNGASei9C8zl9Y48npZeWid29sogy0-icmeBE3obOHgxnCw8RDGtSvNUOzvFLWVXrjbfkTdpv7txijcwbHWAgnfXqu8Eq7vVtEEroa-gNtg7RlDDqRC88t6AfsXYf2FD0gQ-ox4DXCWXxMvd_Rn3k3tDZ4K_GNKWxaKe_wOhxucfuKhWYz_0_HxMzEzuGW6fb159bJCk5GAMM2dw64W2HOpfVxZ2rttoOXShLAAgQWCdxrotjTMDn3TFS6IMxybD5DKvCCgxjwwT2U8QTc-k0ScwQGu6wXNafgN2nrJww7Z3HAp4cktcv1_XzGolUv9GA-BHxbzTn-ps5_wKyui8-XUAJ5bx8-36Nvw93-0ZIgWci9teRYqWOmjioWDfy9uQp6bOWywF8Mj5u9aWAl_UHmWa3ocgMYKaFlfG-ijQSCVB35sgPETARay8LBkXuHRn5pHqrOZ_XhsD29ILaHUPbJbHPtF8yg6gZunuyh4LG81QZ_LdbtHDaRf2vu5QURKnziwXI2xySMaXrls16m5Ze8RwnSBxqcXgrWvLruQTby0GNfeSpDykYwFahbibmFzo5AuFk_UVJ7yrqDUU8AtdHlgCzJSYIsqjV0TieaM8y16u3waKqrU69FA1yEXoU4fyb9VMML9DvF9ijobxjpULbo7xje3xEMn5k" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">“Gower and the Peasants’ Revolt” by Ian Cornelius, Representations 131, 2015 </a></li></ul><p>THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! is hosted by Abe Merker and Jared Tetreau. This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone. Research Assistance by Madison Albertson. Music by Kinneret. Series Artwork by Sid Lugo. Intro Animations by Gemma Hill.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

July 16, 2026
The Treacherous Couple Who Sold Out America
<p>In a delayed salute to America’s 250th, we take a look this week at the couple whose certified VILLAINY nearly ended the Revolution and the nation itself: Benedict and Peggy Arnold. Learn about Benedict’s early heroics, Peggy’s sassy bratty kind-of-iconic upbringing, the espionage and wheeling and dealing that led to Benedict’s betrayal of the American cause and defection to the British, and speculate why we’re sitting on the floor instead of on the couch directly behind us. Tangents include Tim Gunn, Fergie national anthem, the Maritime Aquarium in Norwalk, CT, and an absolutely insane photo of Jared’s butt.</p><br><p>SOURCES</p><p><a href="https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/from-hero-to-traitor-benedict-arnolds-day-of-infamy#:~:text=Arnold%20was%20descended%20from%20a,his%20usefulness%20on%20the%20battlefield" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"From hero to traitor: Benedict Arnold’s day of infamy", National Constitution Center, September 21, 2020 </a> </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1931/03/15/archives/a-lesser-tragedy-of-arnolds-treason-the-story-of-joshua-smith-whose.html?smid=url-share" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A LESSER TRAGEDY OF ARNOLD'S TREASON, Florie Hutson Heyward, New York Times, March 15, 1931 </a> </p><p><a href="https://www.nps.gov/people/benedict-arnold.htm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Benedict Arnold", National Parks Service </a></p><p>Robinson, J. (2012). Benedict Arnold: American Hero, American Villain. On Point, 18(1), 36–43. <a href="http://www.jstor.org/stable/26363381" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.jstor.org/stable/26363381</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.mountvernon.org/library/author-interviews/philbrick/valiant-ambition-an-interview-with-nathaniel-philbrick" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Valiant Ambition: An Interview with Nathaniel Philbrick", George Washington's Mount Vernon </a> </p><p><a href="https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/letter-to-the-inhabitants-of-america/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Letter from Benedict Arnold to the Inhabitants of America (1780)</a></p><p><a href="https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/letter-to-the-inhabitants-of-america/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> </a><a href="https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2024/02/a-philadelphia-belles-fateful-marriage-to-a-traitor/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"A Philadelphia Belle’s Fateful Marriage to a Traitor", Nancy Rubin Stuart, The Saturday Evening Post, February 13, 2024 </a></p><p><a href="https://wams.nyhistory.org/life-story/peggy-shippen-arnold/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"Margaret 'Peggy' Shippen Arnold", New-York Historical Society </a></p><p><a href="https://digitalcommons.oberlin.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1030&context=ost" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">"The Spying Lady Shippen", History Design Lab, Oberlin College, Eliza Greenbaum </a></p><p><a href="https://archive.org/details/treacherousbeaut0000jaco/page/188/mode/1up?q=188" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Treacherous beauty : Peggy Shippen, the woman behind Benedict Arnold's plot to betray America by Mark Jacob and Stephen Chase (2012) </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqmPuRwX2UI" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Colonial Mean Girl Who Almost Ended America </a> </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88LPNK6CJgk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benedict Arnold and The Battle of Quebec | The American Revolution | PBS </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvVVRKnSxg4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benedict Arnold Turns Traitor and Defects to the British | The American Revolution | PBS </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuPNDnAqcQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benedict Arnold's Raid on Richmond </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUaxPk-g6BA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Benedict Arnold, Revolutionary Hero: An American Warrior Reconsidered. Interview: James Kirby Martin </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iUZ9mFoUy0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nathaniel Philbrick, "Valiant Ambition" </a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie62PaUevtY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">14. Heroes and Villains </a></p><p>THAT'S HISTORY, BABE! is hosted by Abe Merker and Jared Tetreau. This episode was produced by Jared Tetreau, Abe Merker, and Claudia Chiossone. Research Assistance by Madison Albertson. Music by Kinneret. Series Artwork by Sid Lugo. Intro Animations by Gemma Hill.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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