
The Dig In Podcast w/Johnny Ova
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Podcast Overview
<p>Dig In is hosted by Pastor Johnny Ova of Sound of Heaven Church. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with scholars, historians, and thinkers from all backgrounds as they explore the Bible through context, culture, and curiosity. Johnny invites guests to go beyond surface-level beliefs and into the deeper truths of Scripture, history, and the character of God. This is not a podcast for debate or division, but for those who want to grow, wrestle with tough questions, and discover the beauty of God's redemptive story. If you're ready to dig into the Bible with honesty and depth, this show is for you.</p>
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May 11, 2026
The Key to Revelation Has Been in Your Bible the Whole Time w/ Dr. Greg Beale
<p>The Book of Revelation is one of the most debated, most misunderstood, and most avoided books in the entire Bible. But what if the key to unlocking it has been sitting in your Bible the whole time? In this episode of The Dig In Podcast, Johnny Ova sits down with Dr. Greg Beale, one of the most influential New Testament scholars in the world and the author of the legendary 1,300-page NIGTC commentary that many consider the greatest ever written on the Book of Revelation. Dr. Beale holds a PhD from Cambridge, has taught at Westminster Theological Seminary, Wheaton, and Gordon-Conwell, served as President of the Evangelical Theological Society, and currently serves as Professor of New Testament at Reformed Theological Seminary in Dallas.<br /><br />What unfolds is a masterclass in how to read Revelation the way it was meant to be read. Dr. Beale reveals how nearly every verse in the Apocalypse is saturated with Old Testament allusions, from Daniel to Exodus to Ezekiel, and how those connections completely reshape the way we understand the most debated symbols in the book. He walks us through how Daniel serves as the structural backbone of Revelation, how Babylon is far bigger than one ancient city, how the number 666 is not what most people think it is, and how the entire biblical story has been building toward a temple that covers all of creation. This is not theory. This is Scripture interpreting Scripture. And once you see it, the Book of Revelation will never look the same.<br /><br />In this episode you will learn:<br /><br />- Why nearly every verse in Revelation echoes something from the Old Testament and why that changes everything<br />- How Daniel bookends the entire Book of Revelation and sets up its central theme<br />- What John was actually doing with the Old Testament when he wrote the Apocalypse<br />- How the Exodus story frames God's work through Christ and the church in Revelation<br />- Why Babylon represents something far larger than an ancient empire<br />- What the number 666 actually means and why it's probably not what you've been told<br />- How the Garden of Eden was the first temple and Adam was the first priest<br />- Why the Bible's story is building toward a temple that covers the entire earth<br />- What recapitulation is and why it matters for understanding the seals, trumpets, and bowls<br />- Dr. Beale's top commentary recommendations for every perspective on Revelation<br /><br /><br />Guest: Dr. Greg Beale<br /><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://gkbeale.com" target="_blank">gkbeale.com</a><br /><br />Handbook on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament: Exegesis And Interpretation- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0cFNsl1K" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0cFNsl1K</a> <br /><br /><br />Stay Connected:<br /><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://Johnnyova.com" target="_blank">Johnnyova.com</a><br />Subscribe on Youtube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova</a><br />The Revelation Reset by Johnny Ova: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0bWpTiPJ" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0bWpTiPJ</a></p>

May 4, 2026
The Empire That Tried to Replace Israel with Dr. Katell Berthelot
<p>Rome didn't just conquer Israel. It tried to become Israel. In this episode of the Dig In Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Katell Berthelot, one of the world's leading scholars on Jewish-Roman relations and winner of the National Jewish Book Award for her groundbreaking work Jews and Their Roman Rivals. What she reveals in this conversation will reshape the way you think about the ancient world, the Bible, and the rivalry between two civilizations that both believed they were destined to rule the earth.<br /><br />Dr. Berthelot takes us inside a story most people have never heard. While Rome was building an empire on military conquest and claiming to bring universal peace, law, and order to the world, Jewish writers and thinkers were building a counter-narrative that said everything Rome claimed for itself actually belonged to Israel. Peace? That comes from the Messiah, not Caesar. Law? The Torah is divine, and Roman courts are corrupt. And when Rome destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, stole the holy vessels, redirected the Jewish temple tax to rebuild the temple of Jupiter, and eventually erased Jerusalem itself to build a pagan Roman colony on top of it, the rivalry didn't end. It intensified. The rabbis responded by identifying Rome as Esau, Jacob's twin brother, Israel's mirror image and ultimate rival. Two civilizations. Two claims. One God watching over all of it.<br /><br />In this episode you will learn:<br /><br />- How Philo of Alexandria subtly positioned the Jews as superior to both the Greeks and the Romans in his writings<br />- Why some Jews saw Rome not as just another empire but as something far more dangerous, an empire trying to take Israel's place in God's story<br />- The shocking details of what Rome did with the Temple vessels, the Jewish tax, and the city of Jerusalem after 70 AD<br />- How the Hasmonean dynasty created a template for Jewish political independence and why it still matters<br />- How Jewish readers reinterpreted Daniel's four beasts to place Rome as the final and most dreadful empire<br />- Why Roman writers were genuinely annoyed that their own citizens were converting to Judaism and abandoning Roman gods<br />- The powerful rabbinic tradition of identifying Rome with Esau, Jacob's twin, and what that metaphor really means<br />- How the destruction of the Temple and the Bar Kokhba revolt didn't crush the Jewish counter-narrative but made it stronger<br />- Why Dr. Berthelot argues that Judaism as we know it today was shaped directly by this confrontation with Rome<br /><br />Get Dr. Berthelot's award-winning book:<br /><br />Jews and Their Roman Rivals: Pagan Rome's Challenge to Israel- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0iFUBs2Q" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0iFUBs2Q</a> <br /><br />See her author page on Amazon- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Katell-Berthelot/author/B004MM3GOY?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=165231fd-c2f1-4eb2-a54c-19efdbaead37" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/stores/Katell-Berthelot/author/B004MM3GOY?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=165231fd-c2f1-4eb2-a54c-19efdbaead37</a> <br /><br />Learn more about Dr. Berthelot's research: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.judaism-and-rome.org" target="_blank">https://www.judaism-and-rome.org</a><br /><br />Stay Connected:<br /><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://Johnnyova.com" target="_blank">Johnnyova.com</a><br /><br />Subscribe on Youtube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova</a><br /><br />Get your copy of The Revelation Reset on Amazon- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0dqT7tFE" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0dqT7tFE</a></p>

April 27, 2026
The Misunderstood Jew: She Taught at the Vatican and Changed How We See Jesus w/ Dr. Amy-Jill Levine
<p>She is Jewish. She belongs to an Orthodox synagogue. She does not believe Jesus is the Messiah. And yet, Dr. Amy-Jill Levine became the first Jewish person in history to teach New Testament at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome. She has met Pope Francis on three separate occasions. She has been elected to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. And she has spent her entire career uncovering the Jewish world that shaped everything Jesus said and did.<br /><br />In this conversation, Dr. Levine takes us inside the vibrant world of Second Temple Judaism and shows us a Jesus most Christians have never been introduced to. She dismantles centuries of lazy theology that has turned the Pharisees into villains, stripped Jesus of his Jewish identity, and twisted his parables into Sunday school stories. What she reveals instead is a Jesus who intensified Torah rather than abolished it, a Jesus whose parables were never meant to comfort but to provoke, and a Prodigal Son story that has an ending most preachers have completely missed.<br /><br />In this episode you will learn:<br /><br />- Why a Jewish girl growing up in a Catholic neighborhood in Massachusetts dedicated her life to studying the New Testament<br />- What the "scandal" of the Jewish Jesus actually means and why the Church still struggles with it<br />- How Christian sermons accidentally make Judaism look bad to make Jesus look good<br />- Who the Pharisees really were and why everything you were taught about them is wrong<br />- What Jesus actually looks like when you place him fully back inside Second Temple Judaism<br />- Why Jesus did not come to abolish the Law and what he was actually doing with Torah<br />- How the Parable of the Good Samaritan and the Prodigal Son have been misread for centuries<br />- The stunning detail in the Prodigal Son that connects it to the lost sheep and lost coin and changes everything<br />- Why Jesus' parables were designed to afflict the comfortable, not comfort the afflicted<br />- What a Jewish scholar who does not worship Jesus wants every Christian to understand about him<br /><br />Guest: Dr. Amy-Jill Levine<br /><br />Rabbi Stanley M. Kessler Distinguished Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies, Hartford International University for Religion and Peace<br />University Professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies Emerita, Vanderbilt University<br /><br />Books by Dr. Levine:<br />Author Page- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001H9TWM0" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001H9TWM0</a><br /><br />The Misunderstood Jew: The Church and the Scandal of the Jewish Jesus- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/0a1WpgqR" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/0a1WpgqR</a><br /><br />Short Stories by Jesus: The Enigmatic Parables of a Controversial Rabbi- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://a.co/d/020Yyvux" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/020Yyvux</a><br /><br />Hartford International Faculty Page: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.hartfordinternational.edu/faculty/amy-jill-levine" target="_blank">https://www.hartfordinternational.edu/faculty/amy-jill-levine</a><br /><br />Stay Connected:<br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://Johnnyova.com" target="_blank">Johnnyova.com</a><br />Subscribe Today- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@thejohnnyova</a><br />The Revelation Reset: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2MYRT27" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2MYRT27</a></p>
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