The Leader's Way is a podcast for people who aren't ready to give up on the world. Hosted by Dr. Brandon Nappi, Executive Director of Leadership and Lecturer in Preaching at Yale Divinity School, the series explores conversations with intellectual entrepreneurs working at the intersection of leadership, spirituality, and theology.
Featuring occasional guest hosts from the Berkeley Divinity School at Yale community, each episode examines how faith, purpose, and wisdom can shape leadership in a complex and changing world.
The podcast is produced by Berkeley Divinity School (https://berkeleydivinity.yale.edu), the Episcopal seminary at Yale, and has featured more than 90 conversations with thought leaders across disciplines.
92: Contemplative Practice as a Tool for Racial Healing with Rhonda Magee
In this Within episode Brandon has a conversation with Rhonda Magee: the authorof: The Inner Work of Racial Justice: Healing Ourselves and Transforming Our CommunitiesThrough Mindfulness. They discuss how to use contemplative practice as a tool for racial healing.
They inquire when Spiritual practice is simply interior, then does it actually have anythingimportant to say to the pressing needs of our time like the urgent questions of war and violenceand racism and greed?
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Rhonda Magee
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
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5 Oct 2026
91: Spirituality and Leadership with Hitendra Wadhwa
In this Within episode, Brandon speaks with Hitendra Wadhwa, the author of Inner Mastery, Outer Impact: How Your Five Core Energies Hold the Key to Success. They discuss the class Wadhwa teaches at Columbia Business School and how his pedagogical approach is to turn his students from the outer acquisition of knowledge into the inner awakening of the soul.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Hitendra Wadhwa
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
18 May 2026
90: Words Matter with Austin Carty
Austin Carty is a writer and pastor of Boulevard Baptist Church in Anderson, South Carolina. Before becoming a pastor, he taught high school English, and while teaching Tolstoy, heard the first call to ministry. As a minister, he continues to immerse himself in stories and words that speak to the human condition and inform how he preaches the Gospel. Austin is the author of High Points and Lows: Life, Faith, and Figuring It All Out and The Pastor’s Bookshelf: Why Reading Matters for Ministry, which received the 2023 Christianity Today Award of Merit and was named Book of the Year by Preaching magazine. In this episode of the Leader’s Way, Brandon talks with Austin about his journey to the pulpit and his new book, Some of the Words Are Theirs: The Art of Writing and Living a Sermon, which explores the ways that careful attention to the craft of writing a sermon—like careful attention to living a meaningful life—leads to greater self-awareness and humility.
Host: Brandon Nappi
Guest: Austin Carty
Instagram: @theleadersway.podcast
berkeleydivinity.yale.edu/podcast
You can support our work at https://tinyurl.com/support-transforming-leaders
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5.0 / 5
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