Were We Lucky, or Were We Good?
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Podcast Overview
<p>Welcome to the <i>Lucky or Good Podcast</i>, where we explore lessons learned from outdoor & experiential education, applying safety science and storytelling to learn from our experiences. </p><p></p><p>This is a community of curiosity, humility, and learning -- not a space to shame, blame, or judge. Critical thinking is welcome, but we should be critical of the conditions that led to incidents, not the people caught up by those conditions. </p>
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July 1, 2026
Episode 8 - The Costs, and Gifts, of Outdoor Incidents (Tracy Rekart)
<p>Episode 8 - The Costs, and Gifts, of Outdoor Incidents (Tracy Rekart)</p><p></p><p><b>Guest</b>: Tracy Rekart</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tracyrekart.com/" target="_blank">Tracy Rekart</a> shares a powerful story of a climbing incident, lessons learned about risk, communication, and resilience. This episode explores how to handle failure, recognize biases, and pursue recovery after a critical incident occurs. Her story is filled with insights, clarity, courage, and vulnerability, all of which provide useful takeaways for outdoor & experiential educators.</p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p><b>00:00 </b>Introduction to the Podcast and Guest</p><p><b>01:12 </b>Tracy's Climbing Incident: A Personal Story</p><p><b>09:00 </b>Reflections on the Incident and Lessons Learned</p><p><b>12:55 </b>Communication and Safety in Outdoor Education</p><p><b>17:09 </b>The Aftermath: Recovery and Relationship Growth</p><p><b>19:39 </b>A Dream of Healing</p><p><b>20:28 </b>Finding a New Home and Life Choices</p><p><b>21:45 </b>The Importance of Presence in Recovery</p><p><b>23:25 </b>Learning from Vulnerability and Holding Space</p><p><b>24:43 </b>Cognitive Biases in Outdoor Education</p><p><b>27:24 </b>The Substitution Effect in Decision Making</p><p><b>30:26 </b>FailSafe vs. Fail Safely</p><p><b>31:48 </b>Excavating for Risks and Final Thoughts</p><p></p><p>Learn more about Tracy and her work at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tracyrekart.com/" target="_blank">https://www.tracyrekart.com/</a></p>
June 27, 2026
Mini Episode #1 - Don't Mistake Outcomes for Process (Matt Baker-White)
<p>Welcome to our first mini-episode, live from the lighthouse at Mukilteo, Washington State!</p><p></p><p>In this brief conversation, <b>Matt Baker-White</b>, an early adopter of our "Lucky or Good" approach, explains the difference between focusing on outcomes versus focusing on effective processes in his work at the <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.wrfi.net/" target="_blank">Wild Rockies Field Institute</a>.</p>
June 15, 2026
Episode 7 - Listening to Weak Signals
<p><b>How Vulnerability and Listening to Weak Signals Can Save Lives</b>: A Conversation with Gareth Lock </p><p><br />In this episode, Gareth Lock (from the Human Diver) shares a powerful personal story about a near-fatal cardiac event and explores how vulnerability, systems thinking, and recognizing weak signals can improve safety in outdoor and diving environments. </p><p><br /><b>Key Topics:</b></p><ul><li>Gareth’s personal experience with a critical cardiac event and key lessons learned</li><li>The importance of listening to weak signals and small cues in safety management</li><li>How vulnerability models foster a safety culture that encourages speaking up</li><li>The concept of local rationality and understanding decision-making in context</li><li>Contrasting linear risk analysis with holistic systems thinking approaches</li><li>The benefits of framing risk positively: beneficial risks and growth opportunities</li><li>Fail-safe design principles: creating resilient systems that recover gracefully</li><li>The role of cognitive biases like hindsight bias and ways to counteract them</li><li>Applying safety science concepts to outdoor education and adventure activities</li><li>The significance of language and shared vocabulary in safety conversations</li></ul><p><br /><b>Resources & Links:</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thehumandiver.com/" target="_blank">Gareth Lock - The Human Diver</a><p></p></li></ul>
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- What is Were We Lucky, or Were We Good??
<p>Welcome to the <i>Lucky or Good Podcast</i>, where we explore lessons learned from outdoor & experiential education, applying safety science and storytelling to learn from our experiences. </p><p></p><p>This is a community of curiosity, humility, and learning -- not a space to shame, blame, or judge. Critical thinking is welcome, but we should be critical of the conditions that led to incidents, not the people caught up by those conditions. </p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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