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WolfTalk: Podcast About Audio Programming (People, Careers, Learning)

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Welcome to WolfTalk, a podcast ever about audio programming. My name is Jan Wilczek. I am an audio programmer and a researcher. In this podcast you will learn how to build your career in programming or research related to audio, meet programmers and researchers from all around the world, and learn about the intricacies of sound. All resources referenced in the podcast are at www.thewolfsound.com/talkXXX, where XXX is the episode number. Don't forget to subscribe to my newsletter: https://www.thewolfsound.com/newsletter/ I sincerely hope you'll find the information here useful for your own development!

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Episode thumbnail for Phil Burk: PortAudio, Android Audio, MIDI 2.0, HMSL, PlayStation Audio, JSyn & More!

June 26, 2026

Phil Burk: PortAudio, Android Audio, MIDI 2.0, HMSL, PlayStation Audio, JSyn & More!

<p>Phil Burk has had an amazing career as an audio developer: from writing DSP code on Z80, through creating a music language, writing code for mobile phones, PlayStation audio support, and Android, up to MIDI 2.0 contributions. He’s also a co-creator of the PortAudio library, which is one of the most popular OS-agnostic audio libraries (and it’s used not just from C/C++ but from Python as well).</p><p>He’s been there from the 80s up until today; he’s seen it all!</p><p>What I love about Phil is his purely interest-driven approach. He was able to make his hobby his work and thus live a life of passion. Even today, as a retiree, he still codes 8 hours a day just for fun.</p><p>After listening to this episode, you will not only learn a ton of useful audio programming knowledge and feel inspired, but you will also feel thankful that the world has audio developers such as Phil; they’re a real blessing, making our lives easier and more pleasant to the ear!</p><h2>Episode Contents </h2><p>From this episode, you will learn:</p><ul><li>how Phil created his first analog synth and started programming on Z80</li><li>what challenges did early music programming face</li><li>how HSML music programming language came to be</li><li>the challenges of programming digital signal processors (DSPs) and designing audio hardware</li><li>how mobile phone audio worked in the late 90s/early 2000s</li><li>Phil’s awesome audio projects: PortAudio, JSyn, WebDrum, and more (see below)</li><li>the story of MIDI 2.0</li><li>how the Android team fixed the latency problem</li><li>which languages Phil has used throughout these 4 decades of audio programming</li><li>what are his work habits for maximum programmer productivity</li></ul><p>This episode was recorded on February 4, 2026.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00:00 Podcast Intro</p><p>00:00:36 Introducing Phil Burk</p><p>00:02:13 Early Music &amp; Homebrew Electronics</p><p>00:04:08 Building a Shoebox Synthesizer</p><p>00:07:18 Z80 Programming via Hex Keypad</p><p>00:10:15 Emulating a 68000 CPU on a Z80</p><p>00:14:08 Sponsor: JUCE</p><p>00:15:55 Phase-Locked Loops &amp; the Commodore 64</p><p>00:18:41 From Biophysics to Programming</p><p>00:22:11 Meeting Larry Polansky at Mills College</p><p>00:26:02 HMSL: A Music Language Built in Forth</p><p>00:32:43 Motorola 56000: Real-Time Synthesis</p><p>00:35:30 3DO: First Software Synth Console</p><p>00:43:38 Designing a Custom DSP in Verilog</p><p>00:54:38 JSyn: Interactive Music in the Browser</p><p>01:02:00 Building PortAudio with Ross Bencina</p><p>01:05:52 Max Neuhaus Sound Installations</p><p>01:14:33 A 14KB MIDI Synth for Mobile Phones</p><p>01:27:02 Designing the MIDI 2.0 Standard</p><p>01:40:41 Sony PlayStation 3 Audio Libraries</p><p>01:44:44 AAudio: Fixing Android Audio Latency</p><p>01:53:16 Why Android Audio Lagged Behind iOS</p><p>02:03:08 Reviving HMSL with JUCE &amp; PForth</p><p>02:07:07 Retirement: Kotlin, AI &amp; New Projects</p><p>02:12:17 Every Language Phil Has Programmed In</p><p>02:18:42 Are Dedicated DSP Chips Still Needed?</p><p>02:20:43 Developer Setup &amp; Favorite Tools</p><p>02:23:23 The Music-DSP List &amp; Learning DSP</p><p>02:30:08 Just Enough, Just in Time Learning</p><p>02:33:05 Audio Is Harder Than People Think</p><p>02:36:26 Shower Debugging &amp; Work Habits</p><p>02:41:40 How to Reach Phil Burk</p><p>02:42:50 Outro</p>

Episode thumbnail for Julian Storer: Creator of JUCE C++ Framework | WolfTalk #032

March 12, 2026

Julian Storer: Creator of JUCE C++ Framework | WolfTalk #032

<p>Julian “Jules” Storer is the creator of the JUCE C++ framework and the Cmajor programming language dedicated to audio.</p><p>He created JUCE in the late 90s, and it grew to become the most popular audio plugin development framework in the world. Apart from audio capabilities, it is a general-purpose cross-platform application development framework (Windows, macOS, Linux, Android, iOS, and embedded platforms). Most plugin companies use JUCE; whether you like it or not, it has become a de facto industry standard.</p><p>You know that I love JUCE; I created the official JUCE audio plugin development course with them, and they are the sponsor of the podcast. So naturally, I was super excited to be able to interview Jules!</p><p>His next big thing is the Cmajor programming language. It is a C-like, LLVM-backed programming language dedicated solely to audio.</p><p>He has also given many talks at the Audio Developer Conference, so I encourage you to check them out as a way to relax and get inspired.</p><p>Jules is known for his strong opinions and dry humor, so I guarantee you’ll find yourself chuckling every few minutes 😉</p><p>Note: If you like the podcast so far, please <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wolftalk-podcast-about-audio-programming-people-careers/id1595913701" rel="nofollow">go to Apple Podcasts and leave me a review there</a>. You can <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5xc7EJiH9shG6zdSC5ejyw?si=eb35597e60a54e70" rel="nofollow">do so on Spotify as well</a>. It will benefit both sides: more reviews mean a broader reach on Apple Podcasts, and feedback can help me improve the show and deliver better-quality content to you. You can also subscribe and give a like on <a href="https://youtube.com/c/WolfSoundAudio" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>. Thank you for doing this 🙏</p><h2>Episode contents </h2><p>From this episode, you will learn:</p><ul><li>How Jules created the JUCE framework and distributed it initially</li><li>How to maintain such huge codebases as JUCE</li><li>Julian’s coding principles that will make you (and me) a better dev</li><li>What problem does CMajor solve, and how</li><li>Which tools is Jules using when coding, especially when it comes to AI</li><li>His exact everyday work routines and relaxation strategies, and</li><li>Does Jules really hate CMake?</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode was recorded on January 30, 2026.</p><p>00:00:00 Intro</p><p>00:00:33 Introducing Jules Storer, Creator of JUCE</p><p>00:02:37 Meet Jules</p><p>00:03:11 How Jules Got Into Audio Programming</p><p>00:04:41 University: Computing &amp; Psychology</p><p>00:05:28 Early Career</p><p>00:07:46 Why Jules Built the Tracktion DAW</p><p>00:11:04 Sponsor: JUCE Audio Plugin Course</p><p>00:12:52 The Mackie Deal &amp; the Birth of JUCE</p><p>00:16:35 10 Years Solo: Bootstrapping JUCE</p><p>00:18:59 ROLI Acquires JUCE</p><p>00:20:56 How the Audio Developer Conference Began</p><p>00:21:38 From ROLI to C-Major</p><p>00:23:33 Cmajor: DSP Language for Any Hardware</p><p>00:28:58 Cmajor Licensing &amp; Commercial Plugins</p><p>00:32:57 Cmajor Stability &amp; AI-Written Code</p><p>00:36:04 What Building a Compiler Taught Jules</p><p>00:39:31 Jules&#39; Dev Setup</p><p>00:41:59 Jules&#39; AI Coding Workflow with Claude</p><p>00:47:23 Reviewing AI-Generated Code</p><p>00:50:18 AI Coding: Where Jules Draws the Line</p><p>00:52:22 Cmajor&#39;s Language Choice: C++, Go, and Rust</p><p>00:54:36 Why Jules Hates CMake</p><p>00:59:01 Clean Code: Structure, Files &amp; Naming</p><p>01:04:25 API Design Other Developers Won&#39;t Hate</p><p>01:07:11 Code Review: Excess State &amp; Verbosity</p><p>01:11:35 JUCE&#39;s Inspiration from Java&#39;s JDK</p><p>01:14:24 Why JUCE Dominated the Market</p><p>01:15:48 Challenges with JUCE, Waveform &amp; C-Major</p><p>01:19:56 TDD and the Pain of UI Testing</p><p>01:23:06 How to Start Learning Audio Programming</p><p>01:26:42 Jules&#39; Daily Routine</p><p>01:31:52 How to Contact Jules</p><p>01:32:42 Outro</p>

Episode thumbnail for Audio and the C++ Standard with Timur Doumler | WolfTalk #031

November 30, 2025

Audio and the C++ Standard with Timur Doumler | WolfTalk #031

<p>How do you become a C++ Standards Committee member?</p><p>Why is C++ prevalent in audio?</p><p>Should you still use it for audio software?</p><p>Honestly, Timur Doumler is someone I have looked up to ever since I saw his “C++ in the audio industry” talk at CppCon 2015.</p><p>He has a rich development history with C++ and/or audio:</p><ul><li>developer at Native Instruments</li><li>developer of the JUCE C++ framework (podcast sponsor ❤️)</li><li>C++ linter developer and developer advocate at JetBrains (who make the CLion IDE)</li><li>founder of Cradle, an audio plugin startup</li><li>C++ Standards Committee member</li><li>CppCast podcast host</li><li>notorious Audio Developer Conference and CppCon speaker</li></ul><p>I have probably missed a ton of stuff here, but that should already give you a flavor of what Timur is up to 😉</p><p>I especially enjoy his technical talks on synchronization with the (real-time) audio thread; For example, at the Audio Developer Conference 2025, he made me finally understand memory ordering in C++ (or so I believe 😅)</p><p>In the podcast interview, we discuss his story, tactics, and tips, which I hope will inspire you to follow his footsteps (as they sure did me).</p><p>It also turns out we are both fond of the same music band… Listen to the interview to find out which one 😁</p><p>All in all, <strong>this one of my favorite podcast episodes</strong> (audio &amp; C++, what more do you need?), so don’t miss it!</p><p>Note: If you like the podcast so far, please, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wolftalk-podcast-about-audio-programming-people-careers/id1595913701" rel="nofollow">go to Apple Podcasts and leave me a review there</a>. You can <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5xc7EJiH9shG6zdSC5ejyw?si=eb35597e60a54e70" rel="nofollow">do so on Spotify as well</a>. It will benefit both sides: more reviews mean a broader reach on Apple Podcasts and feedback can help me to improve the show and provide better quality content to you. You can also subscribe and give a like on <a href="https://youtube.com/c/WolfSoundAudio" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>. Thank you for doing this 🙏</p><h2><br></h2><h2>Episode Contents</h2><p><br></p><p>From this episode, you will learn:</p><ul><li>How Timur’s early interests and experiences led him toward audio programming</li><li>His early engineering work at Native Instruments, including contributions to Kontakt and NI’s internal C++ libraries</li><li>How he joined ROLI and worked on the development of JUCE</li><li>The story behind founding Cradle</li><li>How he became involved in the ISO C++ Standards Committee including his audio-related contributions</li><li>What he’s most excited for in the upcoming C++26 standard</li><li>How he approaches software development and maintaining a healthy work-life balance (that was a great one to learn for me personally, too)</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode was recorded on September 26, 2025.</p><p>TIMESTAMPS</p><p>00:00:00 Podcast Intro</p><p>00:00:37 Timur Doumler</p><p>00:01:55 Timur&#39;s Introduction and Background</p><p>00:02:46 Early Interest in Music</p><p>00:03:35 Linking Music to Software Development</p><p>00:04:42 Studying Physics &amp; Astrophysics (Berlin, Lyon, Potsdam)</p><p>00:06:08 Learning C &amp; Fortran through Cosmology Simulations</p><p>00:07:46 Deciding to Become a Developer</p><p>00:10:48 Getting Hired at Native Instruments</p><p>00:12:16 Working on NI’s Internal C++ Libraries &amp; Kontakt</p><p>00:18:05 Sponsor: JUCE</p><p>00:19:37 Moving to ROLI and Working on JUCE</p><p>00:22:08 Lessons Learned from Jules &amp; Fabian</p><p>00:24:27 Joining JetBrains</p><p>00:30:13 Becoming a Developer Advocate</p><p>00:34:40 Founding Cradle &amp; Building the First Products</p><p>00:37:17 Life as CTO &amp; Startup Reflections</p><p>00:39:09 Bloomberg &amp; C++ Contracts</p><p>00:41:29 The 2015 Talk: C++ in the Audio Industry</p><p>00:46:58 Representing the Audio Industry</p><p>00:48:18 Joining the ISO C++ Committee</p><p>00:50:19 Timur&#39;s Work in the C++ Committee</p><p>00:55:24 How the C++ Committee Works</p><p>01:02:20 How to Learn C++ Today</p><p>01:06:48 Real-Time Audio Programming &amp; Tools</p><p>01:08:02 Personal Productivity: Meditation, Exercise, Time Management</p><p>01:13:46 Tech Stack and Developer Tools</p><p>01:14:13 Music Timur Codes To (Meshuggah, Animals as Leaders)</p><p>01:17:15 How to Contact Timur</p><p>01:18:59 Outro</p>

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Welcome to WolfTalk, a podcast ever about audio programming. My name is Jan Wilczek. I am an audio programmer and a researcher. In this podcast you will learn how to build your career in programming or research related to audio, meet programmers and researchers from all around the world, and learn about the intricacies of sound.

All resources referenced in the podcast are at www.thewolfsound.com/talkXXX, where XXX is the episode number.

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