Work, But Make it Human explores the people side of leadership with a focus on emotional intelligence, communication, and culture-building strategies that apply across all industries. Each episode breaks down practical insights for creating healthier, more productive workplaces where people thrive. Whether you're leading a small team or driving change at the organizational level, this podcast equips you with tools to lead with empathy and impact.

Work, But Make It Human
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Work, But Make it Human explores the people side of leadership with a focus on emotional intelligence, communication, and culture-building strategies that apply across all industries. Each episode breaks down practical insights for creating healthier, more productive workplaces where people thrive. Whether you're leading a small team or driving change at the organizational level, this podcast equips you with tools to lead with empathy and impact.
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Recent Episodes

April 9, 2026
What Got You Here Will Not Get You There | Aron Kolosik
<p>In this episode, Jim Mayer and Aron Kolosik discuss the evolving landscape of leadership in the manufacturing industry, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, personal sustainability, and the need for a human-centric approach to work. They explore the challenges of traditional leadership models, the impact of always-on expectations, and the loneliness often felt by leaders. The conversation highlights the significance of caring in leadership, the necessity of mental health awareness, and the generational shifts in workplace expectations. Ultimately, they advocate for a more intentional and supportive work environment that fosters growth and well-being.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Leadership should prioritize mentorship and clarity.</li><li>Always-on expectations can hinder productivity and creativity.</li><li>Caring for employees leads to better performance.</li><li>Loneliness in leadership is a common experience.</li><li>Personal sustainability is crucial for effective leadership.</li><li>Investing in leadership development is essential for growth.</li><li>Mental health awareness is vital in the workplace.</li><li>Generational differences impact workplace dynamics.</li><li>Job hopping reflects a lack of support, not a lack of commitment.</li><li>Breathing techniques can significantly improve mental clarity.</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to Human-Centric Work</li><li>01:38 Challenging Traditional Leadership Models</li><li>02:19 The Ridiculousness of Always-On Expectations</li><li>05:11 The Loneliness of Leadership</li><li>08:42 Operational vs. Personal Sustainability</li><li>09:44 The Importance of Mentorship</li><li>15:12 Caring as the Foundation of Leadership</li><li>17:12 Building Capability and Systems</li><li>18:24 Mental Health and Stress Management</li><li>22:27 The Cost of Leadership Success</li><li>25:37 The Importance of Leadership Development</li><li>29:16 The Skills Gap in Leadership</li><li>33:14 Generational Perspectives on Work</li><li>40:32 Living Life to the Fullest</li><li>46:13 Investing in Leadership and Personal Growth</li></ul><p></p>

April 2, 2026
Why AI Slop Is Destroying Your Brand Before Buyers Even Find You | Alex Cairns
<p>In this conversation, Jim Mayer and Alex Cairns explore the complexities of B2B marketing, focusing on how to make the buying process more human. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding buyer behavior, the evolution of buyer expectations, and the importance of emotional connections in decision-making. Alex introduces his Eight Moves framework, designed to simplify marketing strategies for complex industries, while also addressing the overwhelming number of marketing frameworks available today. The discussion highlights the critical role of trust in digital interactions and the impact of AI on traditional marketing practices. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for alignment between marketing and sales to create a more effective and human-centered buying experience.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Real people navigate high-stakes, complex buying decisions.</li><li>The world of work includes customers and suppliers, not just employees.</li><li>Buyers today want credibility and proof, not just sales pitches.</li><li>The buyer journey has transformed dramatically in recent years.</li><li>Establishing trust digitally is more challenging than in-person interactions.</li><li>Emotional connections are undervalued in B2B marketing.</li><li>The Eight Moves framework helps simplify complex marketing strategies.</li><li>There is an overwhelming number of marketing frameworks available.</li><li>Buyers complete a significant portion of their journey before contacting sales.</li><li>AI can complicate the marketing landscape if not used thoughtfully.</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Navigating Complex B2B Decisions</li><li>04:21 Misconceptions in Buyer Behavior</li><li>08:17 Patterns in Buyer Behavior</li><li>11:36 The Emotional Aspect of B2B Marketing</li><li>13:37 The Eight Moves Framework</li><li>15:58 Overwhelmed by Options</li><li>19:16 Building Digital Trust</li><li>22:59 The Buyer Journey</li><li>25:17 Centering Humanity in Marketing</li><li>29:01 AI's Impact on B2B Marketing</li><li>35:15 Redesigning B2B Marketing for Humanity</li><li>37:15 Aligning Marketing and Sales</li></ul><p></p>

March 26, 2026
Is Burnout Real or Are We Using the Wrong Word? | Jennifer Watson
<p>In this episode of "Work But Make It Human," host Jim Mayer welcomes Jennifer Watson, a seasoned life coach and entrepreneur, to discuss the pressing issues of burnout and stress in the workplace. Jennifer emphasizes the importance of recognizing that what many perceive as burnout may actually be a distortion of stress, stemming from a lack of tools to manage workplace challenges. She shares her journey from running a successful physical therapy practice to focusing on executive coaching, highlighting the need for leaders to prioritize human connection and emotional intelligence in their teams. </p><p>Jennifer outlines her audacious goal of supporting one million leaders by providing them with the necessary tools to navigate the complexities of modern work environments. She advocates for a shift in workplace policies, particularly around vacation time and work hours, arguing that the traditional nine-to-five model is outdated and detrimental to employee well-being. Throughout the conversation, she offers practical insights on how leaders can foster a healthier work culture by being more attuned to their own emotional states and those of their teams, ultimately leading to improved productivity and job satisfaction.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Burnout is often a distortion of stress, not the actual condition.</li><li>Leaders need to prioritize emotional intelligence to better support their teams.</li><li>Workplace policies should evolve beyond the traditional nine-to-five model.</li><li>Taking breaks and allowing for vacation time can enhance productivity.</li><li>Self-awareness is crucial for leaders to effectively manage their own stress and that of their teams.</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to Jennifer Watson</li><li>01:48 Setting Audacious Goals for 2026</li><li>05:14 Ridiculous Workplace Policies</li><li>09:28 Understanding Burnout vs. Distortion Under Stress</li><li>17:45 Emotional Intelligence in Leadership</li><li>27:00 Trusting Your Body and Emotions</li></ul><p></p>
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